Egypt update

[Santiagodc]

Over the years I have stayed many times in Egypt. My most recent stay was for one month traveling between Cairo, Luxor, and Aswan. 

CAIRO: It used to be the case that the Khan el-Khalili market provided young men for sex, but that is largely no longer the case. The same could be said for the nearby Egyptian museum where I had a number of trysts over the years. Today, things are much less exciting and far more dangerous. The secy male vendors at the market will certainly gay bait you to buy some of their items, and even hold hands with you saying they are hard, but they never seem to want to leave or arrange a time for sex.  I did find one vendor down a side alley that never gets visitors that was willing. I entered his shop, he stood really close as I looked at his items, and then he smiled and rubbed two of my fingers. When I smiled back and squeezed his hand, he said he was hard, liked me, and wondered if I liked “Egyptian Sausage”? I said yes but expected him to not be willing to try anything. He then said times were tough and he could use a little money. We negotiated and he then proceeded to close the doors of his shop. We then did the deed there in his closed shop. Thereafter, I have always visited the shops in the side alleys of the Egyptian cities where I have been quite lucky many times. I stayed this time at the Nile Hilton Hotel which, as you will see on the internet, always has a few guys in the lobby, the bar, and the health club for you to sample. Most were just a bit too professional for my taste, and I was always a bit wary that I might get set-up. As you will read, Grindr and Bathhouse raids are the norm right now in Cairo, so gays must be extremely vigilant. I had a number of hotel encounters and the one market encounter. 

LUXOR: Luxor is filled with sexy guys, scary guys, and scamming guys. The scamming guys are the young ones that are along the pedestrian sidewalk on the east side. They will start talking with you, ask you to come see their boat, and then once you are there the real boat owner appears trying to get you to contract a journey. One guy even got me to the boat, started to push off, and out popped the owner as the boat was about to pull away. Luckily, I jumped back on the ramp before it went off. So, the boat guys are mostly scammers although the exceptions can be found like in Aswan (see below). The sexy AND scary guys were the horse carriage drivers. If you walk along the Nile walkway, just make eye contact with the carriages until you see a sexy driver you want to try. I usually negotiate a price for a tour and specifically say I do NOT want a stop for water, tea, a rug, or a restaurant. In every case the young driver will ask if I am married. When I say no they then ask if I am gay. I smile and shake my head yes. They will then ask if I like “Egyptian Sausage” or “Egyptian Banana” to which I smile and say yes. It is then that you negotiate with them for a quiet place somewhere to do the deed. The only time it is scary is when they return you to a location. No matter what price you agreed upon, then will go ballistic and demand more money. Hold your ground and hand them the money. They will throw their hands back and say they will not accept it. I then throw the money on the ground and walk away. The next day they will be so kind and want to do the same thing again to make money. The next group of sexy guys is the market guys late at night. I take a walk every evening and go down the side alleys to find shops that are not normally frequented. I have been very lucky in Luxor to find young guys willing to close the doors of their shop or take me to a side storage area to do the deed. Lastly, I have had good luck at my hotel. If you stay at a big hotel, be sure to frequent the pool area in the late evening when they are cleaning it. Likewise, when you see the male attendants cleaning your floor, stay around the room and make eye contact when they start to clean. They will always strike up a conversation and ask if you are married. After you say no, then their next response will determine if they are available for a little cash. 

ASWAN: I have met tons of gay German tourists to this city over the years. One has been retired there and has shown me the ropes. The young guys here are available in the following: horse carriage drivers, young boat owner, market vendors, banana island, and camel drivers. The horse carriage drivers in Aswan operate the same as in Luxor (see above). As for the boat owners… one of the best ways to take advantage of these is to go to McDonalds and eat your meal at the tables facing the Nile. From there the boat owners will approach you asking if you would like a ride in their boat. I always offer to walk down and see their boat. Once there, they ask if I am married. When I say no, I then also ask what is down in the cargo area of the boat. They then will always want me to venture down with them. Once down a few steps, the guy will show his dick and ask the question of the sausage and banana. You can then do the deed right there in privacy after agreeing upon the price. I once did pay a boat owner for a felucca trip during which he offered his banana to me whilst he guided the boat up the Nile. At night, it is also possible to see many young boat owners taking people out on the Nile to see the night stars. I did this several times and once you are out on the Nile away from people in the darkness, he will ask if you are married. Once you say no, he will usually show what he has to offer and you can do the deed there in darkness on the Nile. Some of these same boat owners will say they will take you to “Banana Island” which you can google and will find is a real island on the west side of the Nile. Historically, it is nothing special except once you get there and are between the bananas, the young guy will pull out his offering and ask if you want a banana. It is a quick blow job given the limited time and space available. Similarly, the camel drivers on the west side are usually taking people to the old Coptic monastery. Take a cheap boat ride across the Nile from the east to that west area. Pause and take a look at the camel drivers. Once you find a guy you like, go up and ask a price to take you to the monastery. Once you are on your way, the guy will get on the camel with you behind him on the same seat. Your hands are around his waist and your crotch in his rear. Over the course of the trip, he will ask if you are married. Once you arrive at the monastery, the tour is self-service or the ticket man will show you around for a few wads of cash. Once you start your return journey to the original point, the camel driver will stop at a point where you can take some photos. It is here that he will show you what he has to offer and you can make an agreement to do the deed right there amongst the boulders of the desert overlooking the Nile. Surreal. I have visited that monastery too much, but I can’t just visit Aswan without sampling sexy young camel drivers. 

PAY: Most want 100-200 Egyptian pounds ($7-$12 USD) for you to give them a blow job. When the location provides for more, they will ask 200-400 ($12-$25) for the deed. You can actually bargain them lower, but it is already really inexpensive. This will be in addition to any other prices for the carriage ride, camel ride, or boat ride. Those prices usually range from 100-400 pounds as well. 

SEX: Every guy I met was active, would fuck, and would let you suck him. Only one in all my years has agreed to kiss. 

LANGUAGE: Arabic and some English.

GRINDR: If you do you are crazy. 

[tm_nyc]

Wow, a third excellent report!

I spent a month in Egypt some years ago (Cairo-Luxor-Aswan +Alex & Siwa) & really liked a lot.

Now it's on the top of my list when I start travelling again.

[Xclay]

Thanks for another brilliant north Africa post! 

After a five year absence, I'm returning to Egypt in April/March.

It is indeed the working-class guys who love to be serviced, but the more middle-class guys are more prissy about it. However, the Nile Hilton health club steam room used to be a nonstop orgy.

Don't you find that extra eye contact plus a grin will trigger a horny young Egyptian's interest on the street just about anywhere in the evening!?

Be sure to check out santiaodc's Tunisia report too:

 

[Santiagodc]

15 hours ago, Xclay said:

Don't you find that extra eye contact plus a grin will trigger a horny young Egyptian's interest on the street just about anywhere in the evening!?

Oh, dear Lord... absolutely! After 20 years of traveling there I have begun to believe that every young Arab male is secretly bi-curious or just so horny that he just needs to get off somehow. If he can do it for money, he at least believes he is doing it not because he is gay but because his family or he needs the money. In some instances, as you may know, you may be talking with them and they will lightly touch your ass. At that point I get excited because they want not just a blow job but some serious action! I will be back in Egypt myself in July. 

[tm_nyc]

On my one trip to Egypt, I agree that the young men seemed very sexy & either curious or very horny.

One day on the Cairo Metro, I was waiting on the platform at Tahrir Square with an Egyptian guy on crutches.  The train arrived, we both got on but there were no seats.   There were 2 nice-looking, young (early 20's), tall, fit guys who were sitting down & next to them a sour-faced gent in gray clerical garb.  The older guy gestured to the 2 young guys & one guy stood up & gave his seat to the guy on crutches.  The young guy then sat down on the lap of his friend & they were still sitting together like that when I got off the train!

[MikeSyd]

Hi santiaodc, thanks for the useful info - Id like to visit Egypt and a few other bits of Nth Africa once travel is a back on. Quick question - theres some older material around the net about the boat tours at Luxor being a good option, but you include it under your scam comments. So would you suggest, if looking for a hook up, avoiding the boat tours completely in Luxor but try them in Aswan instead? 

[Xclay]

santiaodc,

There used to be one or two theaters where the balconies were filled with action. And even in the more proper theaters, when an action movie brought in almost entirely young guys, I'd always have a few come sit beside me for a hand job.  Did you check out any theaters in your recent trip?  I guess they are all closed.

Are all the awesome hammams closed too? Those used to filled with horny young workers and soldiers looking for someone to drain them.

Speaking of soldiers, I'll never tire of watching fit, masculine, young Egyptian soldiers kissing each other on each side of the mouth, holding hands, and walking along entwined.

[DutchDork]

21 hours ago, Santiagodc said:

Oh, dear Lord... absolutely! After 20 years of traveling there I have begun to believe that every young Arab male is secretly bi-curious or just so horny that he just needs to get off somehow. If he can do it for money, he at least believes he is doing it not because he is gay but because his family or he needs the money. In some instances, as you may know, you may be talking with them and they will lightly touch your ass. At that point I get excited because they want not just a blow job but some serious action! I will be back in Egypt myself in July. 

Thanks a lot for this information! When was the last time you were in Egypt and Tunisia? How hung are the guys?

[Xclay]

5 hours ago, DutchDork said:

Thanks a lot for this information! When was the last time you were in Egypt and Tunisia? How hung are the guys?

Based on a large sample of regular, masculine, working-class guys (not like the self-selected extreme who, in other countries, might display themselves online or in saunas or in porn) the answer is that most are a resounding average to slightly above average -- with the usual bell-shaped curve around the mean.

Throughout the Middle East and Maghreb, nearly all are cut of course.

Most notable was that they were invariably hard as a crowbar and so horny/excited that they often blasted very, very, very quickly.

[Santiagodc]

HERE ARE SOME ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS RECEIVED. I HOPE A FEW MORE GUYS MAY CHIME IN WITH THEIR EXPERIENCES AS WELL:

IS IT DANGEROUS? If you are flamboyantly gay, noticeably effeminate, or can’t make cautious and careful propositions, then YES. I do not exaggerate when I say you will either be scorned, laughed at, beaten up, arrested, imprisoned, or killed. Simply put… choose another safer country in which to travel. I fell in love with men from the Middle East and northern Africa many years ago and have learned the basic tricks of the trade to live in their culture. If it is your first time traveling to Egypt, then you might want to first try Luxor and Aswan for your longer periods of stay for sex as they are safer, more touristy, easier to walk around the central areas, and have some great historic sites. You can do the Cairo portion of your trip in two or three days with the pyramids, Egyptian museum, souk, etc. 

LAST TIME IN EGYPT? Last February and again this past November… both for work.

DID YOU EVER DO A NILE CRUISE? ANY LUCK WITH GUYS THERE? For those not familiar, the 3 or 4 night Nile cruises are quite popular. They go from Luxor to Aswan, or vice versa. I did my third one two years ago before the Covid-19, largely because they can be quite cheap and a great way to relax. First, you should know that when you book a single room, with other mostly elderly parties in double rooms, then you will be noticed by the staff. My first day I got to meet the male room attendant that was cleaning the room and making those funny little designs with towels they place on your bed. I gave him a smile, a look, and a small tip afterwards. The second day saw him do the same thing but he was clearly flirting and started to rub his crotch a lot. When he was rubbing one of those times, I smiled, gave him the eye, licked my lips, and he laughed. I then pulled out 400 Egyptian pounds (about $20 USD) and laid the money on the table I was working on. I very carefully let him see me counting out the money. Now 400 is massively expensive for a blow-job in Egypt, but I had always wanted this type of encounter so I was willing to do what needed to be done. I then continued work as he finished the room. Then, he went and closed the room door and laid the design towel on my bed. He was waiting for the money, so I looked at the 400 on the table, then looked back at him and licked my lips whilst looking at his crotch. He then laughed and pointed to his dick. I shook my head yes, made the gesture with my right hand of sucking the dick, and then pointed to the 400. He then dropped his pants and in 2 minutes the deed was finished. We did it the other two days AND… this was the cool benefit… he brought a friend another afternoon to ask if I wanted him, too. I obliged and had two boat workers. On my second cruise I had a very old attendant, so I wasn’t able to have the same luck. On my third cruise I was sitting out the top level outside bar. I talked with the barman who had quite good English. He asked why I was alone and if I was married. At that point, the conversation ventured just as I have described in the other posts. At the end I gave him a nice tip and showed him my room key. I then said, “If you need some more money stop by sometime”. Now, you should know they are NOT allowed into your rooms or they will be fired. However, about 2 am that night I heard a gentle knock on my door. I looked through the peep hole and there he was. He came in and we chatted for about 5 minutes. I told him how much I would pay and he obliged. It was our only encounter as he said later he couldn’t risk losing the job.  NOW…there is one dangerous experience a German friend from Aswan described to me that happened to him. IF you get assigned on the lower floor with the outside small balcony near the water line, then you will get an offer that can be risky. During your cruise these fast open speed boats will pull alongside the cruise boat and some young men will offer trinkets for sell. When you say no, they will also rub their dick as to offer it. The German smiled, said yes, and waived 200 pounds to the guy. The boat then pulled alongside the cruise ship and the guy hopped off the boat, onto the balcony, and into the room. The German said the blow job was less than 30 seconds, he then took a photo which I saw to confirm the guy was there, and then the guy looked outside as the boat sped up and collected his friend. I had always seen the trinket sellers on these boats and the dick grab, but I had no desire to live so dangerous as to take advantage of the guys, get caught, and kicked off the boat! 

ANY ACTION WITH MILITARY GUYS? Yes, but more so in previous years before the gay crackdown in Egypt. Because of the Egyptian police, I won’t be specific on locations or identify where the military guys are usually available. I will offer this in general about recent times. You will find that some of the horse carriage drivers in Luxor and Aswan will be two weeks to a month away from joining the military. These guys will be 18-20 years of age, perfect bodies, and great teeth! This contrasts with the older carriage drivers or the more lower class young guys that will spend their lives as drivers. You can tell the latter because it is clear they don’t just drive the carriage, but also tend the horses as well. Now these pre-military “God like” guys do not own the carriage or horse, but their friends allow them to drive the carriage for a few weeks to get cash before they have to join the military. These guys are desperate for cash and will tell you they are soon to be going to the military (I know this is true because I even went to one guy’s installation service in Luxor after he was a regular with me for one month). When they ask if you are married and you say you are not, then you can see if they will offer themselves. You can ask them to take you to a quiet place and they will find one. I may do another post just on the positive and negatives of the horse carriage drivers, as there can be some problems associate with them as well. Now, as for active military in recent years where it turned bad, I will offer the story told my French friend living in Aswan. He was visiting Karnak at Luxor and noticed that a sexy military guy was following him. They had rounded a part of the remains where there was some privacy and the military guy offered his dick. The Frenchman showed him 200 pounds and then did the deed. Afterwards, the military guy asked for more money. When the Frenchman would not pay, the military guy took off his rifle and pointed to it, and then pushed the Frenchman against the wall. He then took the Frenchman’s wallet, took all the cash, and then threw the wallet on the ground and walked off. It is the case that guys in uniform will come on to you especially at the tourist sites when they see you are alone. Just be cautious and be aware of an exit plan. 

MOVIE THEATRES? The legit theatres in Cairo that were previously frequented for M4M sex are closed now due to the government crackdown on gays. I had luck at the one theatre in Luxor three years ago by sheer chance of a single guy being there and only two other couples. I had no luck the last time as there were just too many couples there making out. 

HAVE YOU HAD SUCCESS ALONG THE NILE IN CAIRO? Yes, many years ago. If you read the net you will see that there have been massive arrests and crackdowns there and the famous Nile Bridge where I used to meet guys. I walked along the Nile on the west side for some exercise my last stay. I have learned that if you stop and gaze at the Nile for about 15 minutes, then a young man eventually seems to stop near you to do the same. I had luck with many guys this way in the past, but now I only chat/flirt and do not risk bringing the guy back. The temptation is so great, but it is too risky because the Egyptian police are actively setting up stings to ensnare men. 

ANY BATHROOM HOOKUPS?: Yes, but that would be another post and to give detailed locations would also provide that to the police.

DID YOU TRY GRINDR? Same answer as above and before. The stories of arrests are all over the internet about guys ensnared by Grindr hookups. I haven’t the slightest doubt that the Egyptian police also look at this board when it will show-up on google search. If you use Grindr then presume you have a better than 50-50 chance you are talking to the police. On my last stay in Aswan I opened Grindr and had about 10 men contact me. I decided to take the photos they provided and did a reverse image search on google. Not surprisingly, the photos were copied from other men. Be warned!

ANY PROBLEMS WITH VIOLENCE? I have not, but a German friend had a violent guy just like the Frenchman did above. He took a young guy to his apartment in Luxor. They did the deed and the German paid. The young man then asked for more money. When the German did not pay, the young guy started breaking lamps, plates, and other things. He then took the small suitcase the German had in the bedroom and ran out. The German could not report it to police given the nature of the visit. I’ve made it a point to never bring a guy back in Egypt given that you can usually always find some other place to do the deed. The exceptions have been in the large hotels in Luxor and Aswan where I have had luck with hotel workers and security guards in my room. Please note that the MO of the horse carriage drivers will almost always be to expect more money, throw up their hands in disgust, and not accept what you agreed upon. It doesn’t happen all the time, but it does happen. As mentioned earlier, I just throw the money on the ground and walk away if they won’t take what we agreed upon. 

ARE BOAT TOURS SAFE—LUXOR AND ASWAN?: If you have never been on a boat ride on the Nile, then you really should do it at least once even if there is no sex involved. It is magically! I would say there are FOUR kinds of boat rides in these cities. The FIRST is the standard group boat/taxi ferry that takes you directly back and forth across the Nile. It is cheap, usually segmented by male/female, and packed with people. You will not be having sex here because it is open, your are with a group, and takes only 5 minutes to cross the Nile. The SECOND kind is the open motorboats that you can rent. This is where the young sexy guys will be waiting on the boardwalk and asking if you want a boat ride. These are open small boats with no tops and have an outboard style motor on the back. Think of them like a taxi on the water. You tell the guy where you want to go and negotiate the price. Make sure you convey that you want to go to say, Banana Island, AND BACK! Remember they are always looking to get more money out of you. You then walk down, get in the boat, and go to where you want. This is where the gay “bait and switch” can happen. On my first trip, I settled on a price, got to the boat, and then some old man got on the boat as the driver as the young sexy guy waved and pushed us off. I was pissed. It should be said that if you use these boats during the day hours, then no sex will occur because these boats have no privacy. At night, however, there is a time for sex. I had a sexy guy ask me at night if I wanted a ride on the Nile. We negotiated a price and went to the boat. As I was getting on, another young boy joined as the driver. I was a little pissed because I had thought I could have some privacy with my first guy. Well, once we got out on the Nile where there are few lights, the driver cut the motor and we quietly drifted. Then the driver came and sat in front of me with the other sexy guy to my side. They used gestures to ask if I was married. I said no, and then it became clear they were both available. I offered 100 each, they countered with 200, and we settled on 150 pounds each ($10 USD) for a blow job under the stars whilst on the Nile. The THIRD kind of boat ride is the sail boat. This is where the true gay “bait and switch” happens. The sexy guys on the Boardwalk will lure you to the boat “just to see the boat”. Then, an old guy pops up and starts to offer you a group discount for a 3-5 night boat trip on the Nile. He will often rub his cock, and will say you and your friends will have a great time. So, if you want an overnight sail boat ride, you can certainly arrange it. One Belgium friend did and made it clear to the owner that he wanted two sexy guys to join him and his partner on the trip. They had a blast, but I was never patient enough because I had plenty of land opportunities and more guys to try. These same sail boats also offer a one or two hour ride on the Nile. This is where (in Aswan) you can sit outside at McDonald’s and be approached by boat owners for a ride. I have given many a blow job once I can ensure that the sexy guy I am talking with is the actual driver. The FOURTH kind of boat ride is the felucca. A one hour felucca on the Nile is majestic and worth it even without the sex. You CAN, though, find a sexy guy and make some action happen. I decided to watch the felucca guys cleaning their boats and wait till I saw a sexy one. Once I did, I approached him past the other old guys and negotiated a price. Once you are on the Nile, he will ask if you are married. I would say it has been about 50-50 on the guy then smiling and saying he has an “Egyptian Banana” or “Egyptian sausage” that he would like me to try. He will then usually start to tack the boat to get some privacy and you can give a quick blow job there. One even crossed the river and stopped on the western side to secure the boat for some action. SO… get a boat ride and enjoy it. If you have sex, then it is even better!

WHERE ARE THESE BAIT AND SWITCH YOUNG GUYS?: In Luxor they are all along the eastern walkway by the Nile (called the Kornish) from the Winter Palace up to the Hospital. In Aswan they are on the Kornish between the Old Cataract hotel and up to the park next to the road that leads to the train station. I will always chat with them, smile, say no to their efforts to get me to a boat, and give them a few coins. After I do this every day for morning and afternoon walks, I can often meet for a real blow job with a few of them later. When I had gotten confident with one group, they asked why I did not want a boat. I just smiled and said (as I walked away making the gesture of a blow job with my right hand) that I only wanted Shisha! I was able to end that visit with four young guys at the Peace Park behind a tree across the road for 300 pounds each. Just know their angle and their desire to get you to the boats!!!!!

HAMMAMS?: I had success in the past, but they were far too crowded my last two stays. Strangely, they were still open even with Covid-19. You should understand that when a white foreigner walks in, every young horny male knows exactly why he is there. The problem these last two stays were that the places were massively overrun with people everywhere. Young guys came over to show what they had, but we had no place to go and I certainly wasn’t going to do the deed in front of 20 other men who could be police. Two hammans were shut down last year in Cairo (and men arrested) precisely because of gay sexual activity.  

HOW HUNG ARE THE GUYS? Xclay’s comment was entirely correct. As has been mentioned in the comments above, they seem average to me compared to most westerners. But, these guys LOVE blow jobs and seem to like to fuck. They seem to get hard faster than anyone I have ever seen. The problem comes in that they are so horny, they will cum in less than two minutes. This is not because I am a gifted sucker, but because they can’t seem hold out for long. Given I am older, my knees appreciate the quick service! For northern Africans, I would rate the Moroccans and Algerians as having the biggest dicks, then the Libyans, and then the Tunisians and the Egyptians. 

[Xclay]

Thanks again for detailed info!

You got them to last as long as two minutes sometimes! Impressive.  My guys always blasted in less than a minute, sometimes somehow within seconds!

I found that, rather than resident pros who know the score, it was always extra fun, when the opportunity arose, to connect with excited Egyptian tourists who had never talked to a white guy, such as young men from El Fayoum visiting Cairo, from Matrouth visiting Alexandria, from a western oasis visiting Luxor. 

I've been all over Egypt, including the western oases, with the exception of the Sinai.  I figured: Why go see all French and Germans at Sharm El Sheikh when I can see plenty of Egyptians elsewhere?

So... one more question to the master santiaodc:

Have you visited Sharm and, if so, do you recommend it at a place to see and to play?

[MikeSyd]

Yep, my thanks again also for the detailed info santiaodc and particularly for answering my question about the boats. Much appreciated. Cheers 

[Santiagodc]

14 hours ago, Xclay said:

Have you visited Sharm and, if so, do you recommend it at a place to see and to play?

Oh my! It sounds as though you and I have travelled to many of the same places. Twenty years ago I began the quest to explore the ancient Roman, Early Christian, Byzantine, and Crusader sites of northern Africa and the Middle East. I did extreme western Egypt about 10 years ago. I took a Land Rover up to Marsa Matru, Sidi Barrani, and El Salloum. I then came back through Siwa Oasis to Bahariya Oasis and along the famous Oasis route 60. Another year I did the whole Abu Simbel to Port Said trip. I wanted to head over to Sharq El Owainat but the driver was too scared. I had completed the whole Alexandria to Abu Simbel trek many times via car, train, plane, and boat (Nile and Canal).

I visited Sharm El-Sheikh two years ago because I wanted to do the whole St. Catherine monastery trek and climb the mountain of Charleton Heston. Sharm was filled with more Russian, German, and UK tourists than Egyptians it seemed. Easy Jet had made the place quite accessible. I stayed at Tropitel Waves Naama Bay and had a good experience. A gay Egyptian friend from Alexandria told me that the Sharm is certainly ripe now for gays to explore with some male fun. Previously the guys mainly were only interested in the money and sex of the countless old foreign women that were there. With the collapse of the tourist market, most hotels are closed and my friend said it was almost to the point that the guys were even paying HIM to suck them off when he visited. I found only one guy in my resort hotel for sex (a room attendant). Outside the resort, I tried the supposed Marine Park by the Albatross Hotel. I had no luck there, nor the corners of High El Noor and Nabaq as mentioned on the web. So, I went west and decided to take a walk along the beach on the other side of the Beach Albatros Sharm (El-Bahr). I went north along the beach and saw many young men smiling at me and rubbing their crotches on offer. I got excited, but I could see no place to do the deed anywhere nearby in the day light. I walked further up to the public beach area until I was stopped by a resort wall/border. I had to leave to get back for a flight, so I never had a chance to explore the area better. I would think it might be ripe for fun in the late evening, not unlike the Kornish in Sousse! Maybe you or someone else has more recent information! I have never been much into staying inside a resort for a week and the shark viewing experience pales in comparison to the one I did in Cape Town. So, it really depends on your interest. Sharm is a nice location to start if you then like to explore history with St Catherine’s and the suppose Mount Sinai! 

Cheers! 

[tm_nyc]

Thanks, Santiaodc, for another very interesting & informative set of posts!

As for Luxor, I would say that novice visitors should be prepared for a whole lot of touristic hassle, every day & pretty much everywhere in Luxor.  If you relax & see it all as a game, maybe you can have some fun but I found it a bit overwhelming at first.

Question: any experiences/comments regarding Alexandria?  

[Xclay]

I've been to Alexandria four times and, unlike many other places in the region, I rarely felt being checked out by testosterone-filled young guys needing release and a few bucks. 

I did have a some hot encounters the first trip long ago that made me want to return but the later trips were pretty uneventful. Some of the previously lucky venues had been closed and I did not find any replacement. Nothing like elsewhere in Egypt. But sometimes it's just a roll of the dice of course.

Maybe guru Santiaodc has some more updated tips.

[Santiagodc]

My experience is similar to that Xclay. I had traveled there before, but the fun 10 years ago is quite different now. I was there for only three days last February before Covid hit the country. I was staying near the Corniche which has long been the place where street cruising occurs (in fact, any corniche in any northern Africa or Middle Eastern country is usually a great place for cruising). The trek to take is to start from the Alexandrian library to the east side, and then walk west along the corniche. If you are a single white older guy then you will get the smiles and winks. Now, the walk is quite nice, especially at night. During the day you can walk west and end it at the Citadel/Fort. You can then check out the cool fish market if it is operating, along with stopping at any of the cafes along the corniche as you walk back. BUT… here’s the warning I found from this last trip. On the first night, I walked with a female French colleague along the corniche. When I was getting to the Citadel, one of the usual sexy young male vendors approached us to sell us some popcorn. We bought some, and then we chatted for a few minutes. Suddenly two plainclothes men came up to us speaking Arabic and flashed they badges. One took the young man aside and started yelling at him, whilst the other asked for our ID. They asked us why we were talking to the guy and we told him. He then let us go. BUT… the young kid was yelled at in front of other people and then slapped several times on the head. My colleague who speaks Arabic said the young man was being told he was not allowed to talk with foreigners. Fast forward the next night. I went out walking again but this time alone. I saw the same young man now carrying a box with balloons he had blown up and modelled into figures. He was trying to sell them to people. This time I smiled, gave him the look up and down, and then kept walking. He followed me but started walking to my side. He kept whispering “police, police” and motioning with his head behind him. We separated and nothing came to be. I got to the Citadel/Fort and noticed police were taking away two western men and one young boy. I watched for a few minutes and noticed that there must have been 10-15 plainclothes police officers gathering around this arrest. I decided to turn around and start my way back. Right behind me I then saw one of the two plainclothes policemen from the day before had been following me all along. One might suggest that they are just watching out for the safety of foreigners. One might also say, as has been noted in the Gay press about Egyptian arrests, that they were targeting gays along the corniche as part of their normal crackdown on locations known to be gay cruising areas. I also tried the one Hammam listed in the gay cruising guides but there was no action there. I did not burn Alexandria’s port or library, but I did turn my back to it and head south of Cairo where the fun was less problematic.

[Tripyse_]

Hi Santiaodc,

Amazing trip report on Egypt! I went there about 10 years ago with a travel group. I'll have to keep your guide in mind if I ever visit again. 

 

Edited February 13, 2021 by Tripyse_

[Ale4co]

Great info

[Baska]

Thank you, Santiaodc, after reading your post, I got the idea to definitely visit Egypt in your footsteps.
And of course I had a number of questions.
Question 1: Since I plan to start my trip to Egypt from Hurghada in April - arrival on the Pegasus overnight flight from Istanbul at 00:20 - does it make sense to look for an adventure on your ass for the night looking right after arrival? If - yes, then where exactly to look for these adventures?
For example, the Aguarius sauna helps me out with this plan in Istanbul.

[Santiagodc]

On 2/16/2021 at 6:02 AM, Baska said:

Thank you, Santiaodc, after reading your post, I got the idea to definitely visit Egypt in your footsteps.
And of course I had a number of questions.
Question 1: Since I plan to start my trip to Egypt from Hurghada in April - arrival on the Pegasus overnight flight from Istanbul at 00:20 - does it make sense to look for an adventure on your ass for the night looking right after arrival? If - yes, then where exactly to look for these adventures?
For example, the Aguarius sauna helps me out with this plan in Istanbul.

Baska,

HAHAHAHA… well, you are certainly invited “to look for an adventure” on my “ass”, but I think there are far finer young men there that will suffice! Seriously, though, since I don’t know you, how often you have been to Egypt, or what you are planning to do whilst there, I can only offer what I might do to start the trip. Given the hour you arrive and given my age, I would be ready for bed. HOWEVER, I would also want to make sure I had every opportunity to sample the Egyptian morsels that might be available that night BEFORE I hit the bed. So, my plan of action might be something like this:

When I arrive I am sure the hotel might have a van for me. I would dispense with that and choose to find a taxi or ride myself. There will typically be two kinds… the official taxi at the taxi stand, and the nice young men offering a private car just for you. Now the tour books say to stay FAR AWAY from the private dudes and you REALLY SHOULD if you are a novice to Egypt. Me?... well, I size up the attractiveness of the taxi drivers versus the private drivers. If there is a sexy taxi driver, then I negotiate a price and off we go. The same is for the private driver, although I have to be careful and mindful of safety. Once I am in the privacy of the car, the fun begins. You must always remember that the Egyptian wants to take you for EVERY euro or dollar or pound that you possess. Knowing that, and knowing that young Egyptian males are always horny, I must think of a way to “create the condition by which he will offer me his dick for money”. IF he asks if I am married (see my posts above about the marriage question), well, the fun has begun and the odds are in my favor. I have had a number of taxi drivers pull into a dark area and let me do the deed. If possible, I usually try to put my luggage in the back seat and always sit next to the driver in the front seat. That, obviously, means he can see my smile and my eyes as I speak with him about what he can offer to me for my money!!!! Sometimes that is just not possible. Now let’s say you negotiate a price, do the deed, and head to the hotel… you should remember that once you pay him, there is a 75% chance he will say it is not enough. Fear not, young padawan, he is hoping for this so just give him the money. He may throw up his hands in disgust and not take the money. Well, I just throw it at him when he tries that (AFTER I have retrieved my luggage). I usually pay for the taxi, the blow job, and a little tip. 

Now let’s say your drive to the hotel was uneventful and nothing happened. Well, given the hour, you next have a chance with the lowly bellhop who will be bored at that hour and pissed that he is working a shift where he cannot make money like the day and afternoon shifts. In that case, I strike up a conversation and give a smile from the very first moment the desk attendant gives the key to the bell boy. As we are in the elevator, I wait for him to ask if I am married. If he does not, then I gently ask him if he is married. From that conversation we see if I might have some action in the room. I always pray to all the Egyptian gods that I get a sexy bellhop because I have had some great times with them. 

Now if even that is uneventful, I then go to bed sad and wake up late. I shower/shave and tidy myself the next morning. I then peek out the door to see if a room attendant is already cleaning the room on the floor at the late hour I awoke. If they are and the person is a sexy male, well my quest begins anew. I then take my room key and go meet my floor attendant. I smile, say hello, show him my key, and then ask for an extra soap or shampoo. Remember…he wants my money!!!!  I must “create the condition by which he will offer me his dick for money”. I then return to my room and if the door has one of those cleaning hanger things, then I turn it to show I want my room cleaned. I then proceed to get some work done until… BAMM… my door opens and in my sexy attendant comes to clean my room. I actually already have some money out on the table for him to see, as well as smile and tell him to not go away but go ahead and clean now while I work. Without being obtrusive, I find some way to make conversation with him. I am hoping he will ask for some money at the end. If he does then… BAMM… I am about to pounce on my prey. So, the key is to look for opportunities where his desire for your money, your desire for his dick, and privacy… all combine to make the odds in your favor. 

So, whilst there is no Aquarius or similar sauna precisely where escorts are sitting and waiting when you arrive, there are ways to start your trip to Egypt. Just be on the lookout for all the days that follow and remember they really want your money. If this is your first time, then I urge again that you be prudent and cautious until you get the lay of the land and the people. Good luck and be sure to report back here!

[Baska]

Santiaodc, thanks for the detailed answer.
Yes, I am going to visit Egypt for the first time. And I believe that my first mistakes as a tourist will be inevitable. I have nothing against if they fuck me (cheat) for little money, provided that they literally fuck me. My report is required.
What worries me most is that during my stay in Egypt from April 2 to May 12, there will be the month of Ramadan with its restrictions. Unfortunately, I don't know much about Arab culture, much less about Arab members, which is why I planned my trip so thoughtlessly. Will Ramadan stand in the way of getting to know Arab dicks? Or should I postpone my trip to Egypt for another time?

[Santiagodc]

15 hours ago, Baska said:

Santiaodc, thanks for the detailed answer.
Yes, I am going to visit Egypt for the first time. And I believe that my first mistakes as a tourist will be inevitable. I have nothing against if they fuck me (cheat) for little money, provided that they literally fuck me. My report is required.
What worries me most is that during my stay in Egypt from April 2 to May 12, there will be the month of Ramadan with its restrictions. Unfortunately, I don't know much about Arab culture, much less about Arab members, which is why I planned my trip so thoughtlessly. Will Ramadan stand in the way of getting to know Arab dicks? Or should I postpone my trip to Egypt for another time?

Basks,

 

You raise an interesting point. I have travelled twice to Egypt during Ramadan and actually experienced only limited problems. I saw about half of the small restaurants closed as there was no eating until sunset... and thus no need for them to remain open during the day. Mind you, there were still lots of places open to eat in the tourist areas. Similarly while some small historical sites closed up, it was also the case that the MAJOR tourist sites remained open. At the end of the day, they want AND need your tourist money... so many more will probably be open this year than in the past. 

 

As for the sex, that is harder to address. You can already see by the sheer number of guys letting you suck their dick (or them fucking you) that their Muslim religious sensibility is a bit... how shall we say... flexible! So, I found them just as horny and just as willing during Ramadan as other times for their dick to please me... both during the day and night.

 

So, it is a tough call. If you set your expectations low and just go with the flow to get your feet wet for the first time in Egypt, then you will have a great time. The second trip will then be even better. If there are no plans to ever return to Egypt AND you can adjust your schedule, then you might want to do so such that you can get the maximum value/opportunities for that one trip to Egypt in your lifetime. 

[johnmatt]

I'm going in November, so thanks for the info!

[tony1van]

Really got me interested now in Egypt now. Thanks for the great information.

[Baska]

Thanks Santiagodc for the answer.
I am planning to visit Egypt from 22nd to 27th April.
Although it was not advised here to explore the contents of the pants of men in Cairo, I will still devote one day to this city and visit one of its hammams.