Extended Vacay São Paulo, Rio and Salvador

[Kevie770]

Hi everyone, I will write up a full review of my trip once it is has concluded. I wanted to see if anyone will be in Salvador over the next week. I have meet some AMAZING people from this forum over the past week and I would love to connect & explore the cities offerings. 

[Kevie770]

I have a little free time, so I’ll say a little about my adventures so far before I forget.  I arrived in São Paulo on the 16th and stayed until the 21st.

This trip was my first time at SP, and it’s very different than Rio.  It’s a massive concrete jungle where the closest beach is an hour away.

On my first day, I linked with @brockmiller, who is now my Brazilian travel BFF! We turned Lagao out every night!! We are both very friendly and welcoming people and not to mention massive sluts.  Shoutout to everyone else who we hung out with or meet from BT! I don’t remember your user names, and I don’t want to say your real names here, but you all know who you are! 

Lagoa was decently busy every night and very busy on the weekend. The guys were prob 30% European white, 50% light mix, and 20% darker-skinned mixed. If the European look is your thing, then Lagao is the only sauna I’ve seen that would satisfy. The building was mostly open, everyone was naked, and no one except the building staff wore a mask. Only the actual wet sauna was closed. All other parts of the sauna were open.

I enjoyed myself at Lagao, but it is expensive. I prob spent more than twice the amount I spent here in Salvador. But I did find out I was overpaying for programs.  I was paying 400 for overnight and 200 for a regular program. A middle-aged black Paulista told me and @brockmillerthat there is NO REASON we should spend that amount for a program. In his words; we were too young and beautiful ever to pay that amount. He said at the very most, 250 for overnight and 100 for a program in SP.

When I asked him about Salvador, he said 50 for the regular program and 150 for overnight. I’m here to report he was right! I have not been turned down for a single program using his rates. 

 Being honest, I hooked up with many guys while in SP, and I only remember a few.  Two intensely dark-skinned guys we will call Casa and Diego. Both vers and both 5star yep reviews. All others were forgettable or didn’t stand out from the pack.

After São Paulo, Brock and I went to Rio, where the party continued. Rio was Rio... some good, some bad as always. 202 had a fair amount of guys working.  Some new faces and many old faces had not returned. 117 was damn near empty, and none of the guys were to my liking.  I only had one new guy in Rio, and that’s because @brockmillerforced me to have sex with him.

In Rio, I had a few favs who entertained me for most of my stay.  In particular, a 6’5 deeply dark guy who has done some porn had been working out heavily during COVID and had a nice new buff body. I enjoyed his new body and WAP for a few days.

On a side note, one thing I don’t like as much about Rio is that many of the black guys only top. In SP, all of the black guys I was with except two were vers, and many here in Salvador are also vers.  Maybe I’m not doing something right, but I know a few black guys who work at 202 who’s asses are calling to be fucked. 
 

I will tell you about my adventures in Salvador once I have a moment. Salvador is magical is so many different ways! 

I hope my spacing allows everyone an easy read this time. 

Edited September 27, 2020 by Kevie770

[brockmiller]

Yeah!!! it took a lot convincing and force to get you to have sex with that handsome, sexy guy. 

[docbr]

Thanks for the report! Waiting anxious for the update in Salvador scene! 

[Kevie770]

56 minutes ago, docbr said:

Thanks for the report! Waiting anxious for the update in Salvador scene! 

I will try to finish shortly after I leave Salvador next week. 
 

Also a big shoutout to @sfcastro who has been traveling to Brazil for about 20 years and has a wealth of knowledge! And a shoutout to OZ! We killed that Whitney Houston song during karaoke.

Edited September 27, 2020 by Kevie770

[TotallyOz]

Great report! It sounds like you are having a blast! I love Salvador. Go to the turtle sanctuary if you have time. It is beautiful.

[Kevie770]

29 minutes ago, TotallyOz said:

Great report! It sounds like you are having a blast! I love Salvador. Go to the turtle sanctuary if you have time. It is beautiful.

It has been an amazing trip so far! I will be back in São Paulo on Friday and Saturday if anyone wants to meet up at the sauna or for lunch! 

[Kevie770]

I have insomnia, so I figured I would give you all the update on Salvador. I flew from Rio to Salvador with LATAM for about $60, booking the ticket five days in advance. I stayed for a little more than two weeks. 

I stayed in Barra, Rio Vermelho, and Caminho das arvores. Barra was the best location, with bars and restaurants everywhere.  CDA was also a good area for food, but it’s not close to anything.  RV is a beach neighborhood and has good food as well.

I visited five saunas while in Salvador, 4 with made for GP, and one not.  All five had GP working. I first went to Club 11, which was by far the only sauna worth going to.  While I was there, I made good friends with some of the drag queens.  One DQ in particular, I hung out with a lot during my trip. He owns a modeling agency and opened the gate to an entirely different Salvador than what the sauna could offer.  I was invited to one of their shoots, where I met some of the most beautiful black men and women around!  I came out of that making many good friends. My friend asked me what guys I was interested in, and he made his magic. He was in no way a pimp, but he just enjoyed knowing I was having a good time. We have become good friends, and unlike ppl from SP or Rio, he never asked me for anything.

Like I said, Club 11 was the only one worth going to. The club is the most excellent and cleanest of the clubs I went to.  All the guys would be considered black in the USA.  60% was a lighter shade, 40% darker. The cost of a program is 80r in house and 150r overnight.  I never had anyone ask for more on my overnight offer. All the boys I would consider the “boy next door” type. The guys avg age was prob 20-23, which feels must younger than Rio and def feel younger than SP. I would say about 3/15 guys worked out regularly, but none were overly muscular.  All the guys sell! It’s nothing like SP, where you have to introduce yourself to a GP. I don’t like how laid back the GP are at Lagoa; it’s the opposite in Salvador.  I love the staff at 11 and the boys. 

Signus, this sauna is around the corner from the street with all the gay clubs. I went on bingo night when “The Queen of the gays” hosted.  It’s a blue house that has a bar, stage, outdoor shower, and rooms.  Programs here are 50r.  Nothing nice about this place, but the drinks were STRONG and CHEAP! There were a few boys there, but none were my type. I was told that before COVID, the house would be full of guys! 

Fox, I went here 3 times, and each time it was empty. With no more than 4-5 GP and 4-5 customers.  Uber is extremely cheap, so it would cost less than $5 going between clubs despite their distance. 

13, this club was also empty. 4 GP and 5 customers. None of the guys were my type. The boys did not get naked and everyone wore a mask. I only went here once. Once we left the club we went to the beach down the street.  The beach was LIT! It had many young gays outside drinking and having a good time.  I was taken in as the token black American.  I was repeatedly told this is NOT something a gringo should do alone but I a was with a friend and felt extremely safe. Side note black people in Salvador are very similar to black ppl in the American south. We feel the same way about white people (really white supremacy) and the police.  I didn’t need a translator to find out that we all shared similar views. Vidas negras importam was a heavy theme! I was happy to be their proxy for the movement. Sharing pictures of protest in Atl they were extremely proud of what is happening in the USA. 

infinit hotel sauna, I would compare this to a more traditional sauna like the ones you would find in SP. It was a hotel with a small club and gym on the bottom level. Two floors of rooms and a club on the top floor. There weren’t many people at the sauna. I was told this is also due to Covid. We only stayed for a little more than a hour then left for 11.

I ended up hanging out with the friends I made most of the time.  Half the beaches were open so that’s where we would go. I would provide the weed and drinks and we would just chill. At the end of the day I would go to the sauna and they would go home. I ended up going to the favelas with them which are very different than in Rio.  They don’t stack high up and they are much more accessible.  I would only hang out in the favela for a day, the guys liked coming to my apartment much more. 

I'm sure I’m forgetting a ton because of the time. But to wrap it up Salvador quickly became home to me. So much so that I plan on going back in November. Since visiting I don’t feel the need to go back to Rio and I definitely don’t feel the need to ever go back to SP. 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Kevie770

[SolaceSoul]

5 hours ago, Kevie770 said:

Signus, this sauna is around the corner from the street with all the gay clubs. I went on bingo night when “The Queen of the gays” hosted.  It’s a blue house that has a bar, stage, outdoor shower, and rooms.  Programs here are 50r.  Nothing nice about this place, but the drinks were STRONG and CHEAP! There were a few boys there, but none were my type. I was told that before COVID, the house would be full of guys! 

This sauna very recently changed its named from Termas Olympus (maybe because of new ownership or new management), which has been around for years. Believe it or not, it has actually gone through a renovation / visual improvement, but in terms of garotos, it’s always been very hit or miss. And every time you go there, the staff will tell you that it just happens to be slow at that time, but it is better later or on another night. Unsurprisingly, it never gets much better!  But it sometimes on rare occasions can offer a good diversion, if you happen to be in the area (Tuiuti).

5 hours ago, Kevie770 said:

Fox, I went here 3 times, and each time it was empty. With no more than 4-5 GP and 4-5 customers.  Uber is extremely cheap, so it would cost less than $5 going between clubs despite their distance. 

This is most likely due to the COVID pandemic. Sauna Fox is usually busier and just as if not more lively than Clube 11, and that was the case during my last visit last year. Because they are on opposite ends of the peninsula, the two saunas tend to get two different neighborhoods of garotos and clients. I rarely see the same garotos at both 11 and Fox.

But then again, in Salvador as in all parts of the Bahia and Northeast Brazil, the economy is comparably worse and businesses can often change or close at the drop of a hat. A few years ago, there was a sauna called Persona 12 that had the most beautiful men from the region. A year later, it was dead. A year later, it was closed. Same thing with many neighborhood gay clubs, bars and restaurants. During the pandemic, I’d expect this to worsen.

5 hours ago, Kevie770 said:

Side note black people in Salvador are very similar to black ppl in the American south. We feel the same way about white people (really white supremacy) and the police.  I didn’t need a translator to find out that we all shared similar views. Vidas negras importam was a heavy theme! I was happy to be their proxy for the movement. Sharing pictures of protest in Atl they were extremely proud of what is happening in the USA.

As another black person in the USA who discovered for himself the beauty, history and kinship of Salvador and the Bahia over a decade ago (it was the first place in Brazil I ever visited) beyond just the sex tourism, I am genuinely very glad to read this part of your report. You’ve learned for yourself why an increasing number of black Americans (and just from the American South) have fallen in love with Salvador da Bahia and either are moving there permanently or consider it their second home. Salvador is actually the most African place in the world outside of the continent of Africa, and people of African descent from all over the world feel spiritually connected to the city, the Bahian state and its inhabitants. And yes, there ARE definitely things you can learn and experience there as a black person that non-black folks just won’t be able to even if they try to co-opt or colonize. I would move there in a heartbeat if there were work for me in my field (there is not much at all, unfortunately). 

5 hours ago, Kevie770 said:

I ended up going to the favelas with them which are very different than in Rio.  They don’t stack high up and they are much more accessible.  I would only hang out in the favela for a day, the guys liked coming to my apartment much more. 

Liberdade is an amazing comunidade (favela). If you’re invited by a favela resident, you can be welcomed into their parties and even their homes with open arms. What Salvador lacks in public LGBTQ bars and parties, it makes up for in comunidade and favela watering holes, parties and gatherings. 

[Kevie770]

Wow @SolaceSoul completely agree with you. And thank you for your contribution!  When my friends went to Ghana last year they all said it felt like “home” that’s how I felt in Salvador.  I’m so great full to you @Badboy81@Latbear4blk Tom from 117 and anyone else who has provided information about Salvador. It convinced me to go and experience what has to date been my favorite place in the world. 

As @brockmiller can attest I am unapologetically and sometimes uncomfortably black. I don’t mind asking and discussing uncomfortable topics when it comes to blackness. And in Salvador every Uber driver, waiter, or anyone I came into contact with that spoke English wanted to discuss the black awakening that is happening all over the world. It was truly magical.  

Edited October 8, 2020 by Kevie770

[SolaceSoul]

2 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

You’ve learned for yourself why an increasing number of black Americans (and NOT just from the American South) have fallen in love with Salvador da Bahi

Corrected above In bold. There is a 2 hour edit limit.

[RocketGuy]

nice trip