AdamSmith Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Larstrup said: This was delightful to listen to. Does this Catholic Church in FLL now embrace Homosexuals who come to this church, as children of God? I would be remiss, if I didn’t mention mention that clicking on their membership link had Requirements which just don’t seem all that friendly to me. If I was in search of acceptance. American Catholic Church practice is far in advance of doctrinal afflatus emanating from the Curia. Recall Francis is a Jesuit. Thus really, in spirit, a Protestant. I don't think that's too outre an assessment. Given his involvement with liberation theology and related strains. He, from his first day in the See, has been applying very small, but very many, taps and blows to the foundations of conventional Catholicism (that is to say, those set up in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, aimed mainly at securing and preserving its worldly and material dominance. Not the severely serious spiritualism of the early Church.) I doubt the fruits of his efforts will be much seen within his lifetime. But I will wager (as a Southern Baptist myself -- 'believing,' though not in a manner my fellow parishioners would recognize) that Francis will turn out, in the long view, to have saved the Church from itself.
Members MsAnn Posted March 13, 2018 Members Posted March 13, 2018 LMAO...Of course not, but my neighbor's grandson is in the Notre Dame Glee Club and invited myself and eleven others to dinner and drinks first, then on to the concert. It was on her dime. Dinner and drinks were delish and and the boys from Notre Dame cute. The concert had it's moments, but other than that, I would have stayed home... (yes I'm that shallow) 33 minutes ago, Larstrup said: This was delightful to listen to. Does this Catholic Church in FLL now embrace Homosexuals who come to this church, as children of God? AdamSmith 1
Guest Larstrup Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, AdamSmith said: I doubt the fruits of his efforts will be much seen within his lifetime. But I will wager (as a Southern Baptist myself -- 'believing,' though not in a manner my fellow parishioners would recognize) that Francis will turn out, in the long view, to have saved the Church from itself. This is confusing to me, because you, Adam Smith , have always sold yourself to us being an atheist. This is not to void you from having an opinion on the church and your fellow parishioners, but it’s challenging to believe that if you really are an atheist that you would be attending church to begin with.
Guest Larstrup Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Larstrup said: This is confusing to me, because you, Adam Smith , have always sold yourself to us being an atheist. This is not to void you from having an opinion on the church and your fellow parishioners, but it’s challenging to believe that if you really are an atheist that you would be attending church to begin with. 8 minutes ago, Larstrup said: This is confusing to me, because you, Adam Smith , have always sold yourself to us being an atheist. This is not to void you from having an opinion on the church and your fellow parishioners, but it’s challenging to believe that if you really are an atheist that you would be attending church to begin with. But, it’s ok. It doesn’t really matter to me after all.
Guest Larstrup Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 This resonse is not the one which I would have preferred to offer at a later time.
AdamSmith Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, Larstrup said: This resonse is not the one which I would have preferred to offer at a later time. Dinna werrie. That month of living homeless on the streets, that I have spoken of too many times here, relieved me of that spiritual drought. The innumerable acts of loving kindness I saw among those who had nothing, and gave all -- and found how, effortlessly, to take part in myself -- cured me. I now believe.
Members MsAnn Posted March 14, 2018 Members Posted March 14, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/arts/correspondents-favorite-museums.html The Museums Times Reporters Like to Visit on Their Days Off By THE NEW YORK TIMESMARCH 13, 2018 For this issue of the Museums section, the editors asked national correspondents to tell us about their favorite museums. Here is a sampling: I give you Fort Lauderdale. Who would've guessed.... Fort Lauderdale, Fla. There’s an art museum in Fort Lauderdale, up the road from Miami, that feels like a sanctuary. Maybe all museums ought to feel that way. But the NSU Art Museum Fort Lauderdale really does. The art is strong and the stark white Edward Larrabee Barnes building makes a visitor want to linger. The galleries flow nicely into one another under a high, white ceiling like the flat underside of a cloud. One curving wall creates a panoramic display surface. At an archway mid-museum, you can stand between two galleries, see four or five walls and size up a dozen paintings and sculptures at once. “Frank liked the layout,” said Bonnie Clearwater, the director of the museum. She was talking about Frank Stella, the American abstract expressionist painter and sculptor, whose work is all over the museum until July. The museum is celebrating 60 years of Mr. Stella’s work and 60 years of its own existence. It started in an empty hardware store as a Junior League project. Many dazzling, fund-raising balls later, supporters hired Mr. Barnes. His Fort Lauderdale gem opened in 1986. In 2008, the museum merged with Nova Southeastern University. Ms. Clearwater was a curator in New York. Then, for 16 years, she ran the Museum of Contemporary Art in North Miami. She helped build South Florida’s art world and bring Art Basel to Miami Beach. She moved to Fort Lauderdale four years ago. JOSEPH B. TREASTER AdamSmith 1
AdamSmith Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 10:44 PM, AdamSmith said: Dinna werrie. That month of living homeless on the streets, that I have spoken of too many times here, relieved me of that spiritual drought. The innumerable acts of loving kindness I saw among those who had nothing, and gave all -- and found how, effortlessly, to take part in myself -- cured me. I now believe. @Larstrup P.S. I am now also still an atheist. Can you grok both, together? 'Adonai, Adonai, how hast Thou forsaken me?' And so much more. To be clear, all positive, not negative. MsAnn 1
Members MsAnn Posted March 15, 2018 Members Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, MsAnn said: If Then And if then I understood that everything is the same as before and as before I felt useless I have never thought if the habit It is a nice place to find me But without us I still that strange urge to feel lonely without us but not by now if only to see you leave again And if ever I tried you would fear and fear is always that to win And you can not pretend nothing has changed after I ripped the heart away from you But without us I still that strange urge to feel lonely without us but not by now if only to see you leave again Without us I still the urge to run away alone but without us who flies? are only wings and feathers and nothing else again sure that is priceless time spent together walking between this world and another to find the universe suitable to our space every day closer to contain the dreams all inside a drawer and that's why I run I remember now and run I just really want to feel alive now But without us I still that strange urge to feel lonely without us not now if only to see me leave again sure that is priceless time spent together walking between this world and another to find the universe suitable to our space every day closer to contain the dreams all inside a drawer and that's why I run I remember now and run of course that is priceless time It remains to me a little bit on me .. AdamSmith 1
Guest Larstrup Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 18 hours ago, AdamSmith said: @Larstrup P.S. I am now also still an atheist. Can you grok both, together? Of course I can Adam. As I said above, that didn’t phrase well at all, or reflect my personal beliefs about atheists, agnostics, or those deeply invested in any organized religion or faith. As an agnostic, I believe the glory of “God” resides in each and every one of us, and how we choose to do deliver that to our fellow man and woman.
AdamSmith Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Larstrup said: Of course I can Adam. As I said above, that didn’t phrase well at all, or reflect my personal beliefs about atheists, agnostics, or those deeply invested in any organized religion or faith. As an agnostic, I believe the glory of “God” resides in each and every one of us, and how we choose to do deliver that to our fellow man and woman. Beautiful. We are in harmony here. P.S. My 'Can you grok...' was not meant to have the challenging tone it did take on.
Guest Larstrup Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, AdamSmith said: Beautiful. We are in harmony here. P.S. My 'Can you grok...' was not meant to have the challenging tone it did take on. It did not to me. And often times myself, I wish I could’ve offered a more kind and loving response to some of my posts here.
AdamSmith Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Larstrup said: It did not to me. And often times myself, I wish I could’ve offered a more kind and loving response to some of my posts here. Thank you. You usually do.
Guest Larstrup Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 No one ever said being an agnostic was easy. Especially because of this:
Guest Larstrup Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 FWIW, this Easter Sunday, is on April 1st. I could, but I won’t.
AdamSmith Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Larstrup said: FWIW, this Easter Sunday, is on April 1st. I could, but I won’t. The most challenging day in our epistolary. in every way. i think that is what our Lord meant.
Members MsAnn Posted March 17, 2018 Members Posted March 17, 2018 Apologies for the detour down some Texas back country dirt road... AdamSmith 1
AdamSmith Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 12:02 AM, Larstrup said: No one ever said being an agnostic was easy. P.S. Possibly the most basic reason I call myself 'atheist' instead of 'agnostic' (and, again, this is not meant as any criticism of anyone's choice in belief) is that -- in the dreadful event I am called to appear before the Judgment Seat -- the Almighty will ask me: 'Had you not the courage to choose?'
