Rio Bound!

[SolaceSoul]

1 hour ago, Kevie770 said:

But for the record I’m 6’4 300 and in shape. I’m also young, handsome, interesting and I have a big dick. I have sex with beautiful men for FREE in the states whenever I want.  

6’4”, 300 pounds is morbidly obese, not “in shape”, in any part  of the world. Particularly for someone who is in his 20s. 

Trump (supposedly) is 6’3 and 237. We all know that’s not true, but even if he were 50-70 pounds more than that, he’d still be morbidly obese. 

 

 

 

 

[Latbear4blk]

1 hour ago, Kevie770 said:

a old hating ass hoe

LOL! You are a fast learner!

[Kevie770]

@SolaceSoulNo one has time for you and your constant negative comments! You don’t even post anything that could actually help people enjoy their vacation, just constant negativity. Old lonely angry ass queen, it’s not my fault the only time you get laid is on your biannual trip to Rio. 
 

But my young, tall, handsome, big dick, morbidly obese ass is done addressing a bitter old queen like yourself. I will continue to travel the world and having amazing experiences, both paid and free...

[SolaceSoul]

3 hours ago, Lucky said:

If someone forces their actions on me, the last thing I would do is pay them. It was two against one in this situation.

I would completely expect someone like you to defend this behavior.

No one “forced” a dick in his mouth. By his own admission, he’s 6’4 and 300 (and “in shape”), and the garotos were smaller.  

Pay sex workers in a sex worker establishment for their sex work with you. If you don’t want sex with them, just tell them no and walk away. If you want sex for free at a sauna in Rio with younger, attractive men, go to Rio G Spa and try your luck there. 

50 reais would have amounted to only $10.75 USD today. 

[SolaceSoul]

17 minutes ago, Kevie770 said:

@SolaceSoulNo one has time for you and your constant negative comments! You don’t even post anything that could actually help people enjoy their vacation, just constant negativity. Old lonely angry ass queen, it’s not my fault the only time you get laid is on your biannual trip to Rio. 
 

But my young, tall, handsome, big dick, morbidly obese ass is done addressing a bitter old queen like yourself. I will continue to travel the world and having amazing experiences, both paid and free...

You certainly like to make a lot of assumptions in order to make yourself feel better. I, OTOH, am only going by what you literally posted here yourself, about you and your own actions. 

Unlike some here, I don’t have to post a play-by-play of my travel sexcapades (with easily identifiable information about the partners) in order to prove something or boost lagging self-esteem. I have more than enough posters that I actually respect here who contact me privately to either get or share information. 

Continue to enjoy your trips. Just pay sex workers for their work they do with you.  Surely, if you can pay for a flight and accommodations, you can afford another $10.75 (x2) for a porn room romp.

[Kevie770]

28 minutes ago, SolaceSoul said:

You certainly like to make a lot of assumptions in order to make yourself feel better. I, OTOH, am only going by what you literally posted here yourself, about you and your own actions. 

Unlike some here, I don’t have to post a play-by-play of my travel sexcapades (with easily identifiable information about the partners) in order to prove something or boost lagging self-esteem. I have more than enough posters that I actually respect here who contact me privately to either get or share information. 

Continue to enjoy your trips. Just pay sex workers for their work they do with you.  Surely, if you can pay for a flight and accommodations, you can afford another $10.75 (x2) for a porn room romp.

You’re such a noble sex tourist. I’m sure everyone would appreciate it if you messaged your respectable friends and left the rest of us the hell alone. 

Edited March 5, 2020 by Kevie770

[Bucknaway1614502762]

Keep the informative posts coming!  The situations described are likely to be repeated with others.  Knowing this can happen gives us a leg up on being ready to handle the situation.

[SolaceSoul]

6 hours ago, Kevie770 said:

You’re such a noble sex tourist. 

Yes, I do believe it is noble to pay sex workers for the work that they do, especially at an actual sex work establishment. I would hope that there are others here who read this who agree. There are thousands who read this forum logged on, and probably thousand of others who aren’t logged on who read it as well. 

I post for the benefit of those who may read this and not understand that this is not okay — not for yours. You clearly are beyond self-reflection, when doubling down on poor behavior is your and attacking the messenger are your best defenses.

[Latbear4blk]

The delusions of grandeur syndrome is spreading faster than the coronavirus.

[Badboy81]

7 hours ago, Bucknaway1614502762 said:

Keep the informative posts coming!  The situations described are likely to be repeated with others.  Knowing this can happen gives us a leg up on being ready to handle the situation.

You mean a bunch of old lads living vicariously through the actual lives of others...

Listen, those who do, DO....While I do enjoy reading some of the better adventures....some of the shit that is posted has to be pure FANTASY....

[paborn]

I have to say this, there is an old custom among those who visit the bars of Bangkok and Pattaya that would be well adopted here: if you sit with a bar boy and talk to him for 10 minutes or so; regardless of whether you have touched him, kissed him, fondled him - let alone, engaged in oral sex you MUST tip him. They are sex workers and you know that. I can't believe this is an issue that needs to be discussed. It is not an issue of being a "noble sex tourist " ( why you would want to be otherwise is a mystery ) but of simple good manners and decency.

[Riobard]

Funny what different readers take from a crystal clear rendering of garoto [playful, amusing] impropriety. I snipped out the OP’s succinct description of the short encounter in question (below). I might say the 2 commercial sex workers were pushing the boundaries of #MeToo by overriding polite unambiguous decline signals, regarding erotic intentions that would unfold in a suite, except my friend’s Kevie’s profile handle would more appropriately be labelled ... NosetackleColossus. LOL.

It. was somewhat unexpected that their importuning programa(s) would include spontaneous insertive oral intercourse, and his briefly permitting that would be the hospitable thing to do in that context, followed by JUST SAYING NO. Their gesture represents one of a range of normative seductive ploys, though I myself would have needed to think fast on my feet, as it would be a first for me. They requested payment predicated on his ORGASM, not based on their valuable seconds spent pursuing a trick. There was no ejaculation. They were communicating, outrageously: Pay for a phenomenon that has upticked commercial value but that never occurred.

With sufficient language fluency and available time, the gesture of greatest magnanimity seeing as their line of employment, would be to school Rosencrantzio’s and Guildensternes’ comprehension of the stages of male human sexual response. 

Edited March 6, 2020 by Riobard

[Riobard]

Different locations, customs, conventions among bar workers, strip club peelers, brothel escorts ... apples, oranges, bananas. Giving a financial tip on demand based on explicit manipulation in Brazil would be frowned upon by many stakeholder groups within the trade dynamics. 

Simple example familiar to me outside of the BRZ context, strippers in NYC importune tips for interaction beyond private dance time, but it is simply not done in general in Montreal. One might go up to the stage and deposit a gratuity to a dancer, but making it rain in the general zone between stage and cubicle is just not the way. 

[Kevie770]

I’m done addressing posters who only ever have negative things to say when it comes to anyone or thing outside of their little group of fellow bullies. I know being a hater at 40, 50, 60 even 70 years old has to be exhausting.  But like I said I’m done addressing twitter fingers.  Go hijack another thread. 

[Bucknaway1614502762]

I'm more interested in the report.  Not interested in being an anonymous internet social critic.  I want to hear about the guys and the events of the night as well as your hijinks.

I have written about my time in Brazil at the gay Thailand board but I may post some memories here as well.

Anyway, keep writing and posting.  Like many here, I'm hungry for firsthand reports about the guys and businesses of Brazil.

[Latbear4blk]

I like this tone better for the conversation. I prefer empathy rather than judgmental preaching and bullying. Assholes make me double down on assholeness. 

@Kevie770 is in his first trip to Brazil and clearly is leaning the culture and conventions. Assuming that his intention was disrespecting the boys is preposterous, and a malicious assumption. There is no reason to make that interpretation from his narrative.

So @Kevie770, learn the lesson for next time. Arguing as you do that you were saying "no", is not a realistic argument in this context. Just remember for next time that if you are in a Brazilian sauna with garotos de programa, you should remove yourself from initiating any interaction or, otherwise, we ready to pay. As the friends point here, these are working boys and their time is money.

When I went to the saunas, even when the boys did not interact sexually with me but just chatted, I treated them in some way. Sometimes a drink, sometimes a snack, sometimes I paid for their ticket (boys pay half fee to enter). You did pay for a drink, so no one can tell you did not tip him. You should have probably been more generous as it looks like the interaction went far beyond just a few kisses. It is clear to me this is just a misunderstanding and not an attempt to take advantage from sex workers.

Remember, there are two kinds of gay saunas in Brazil. If you want to interact without a goods exchange, go to a regular one. But if you go to a garotos de programa sauna, all interaction are based in a working contract. 

I hope to coincide with you someday and go hunting together. I am not taking my American weed through the boundaries, I would love to take advantage from your courage. If you are planning to be back in April, hit me back through PM.

[floridarob]

Many years ago I had a friend with me that was very wealthy and very cheap. In Lagoa he went to the showers and TV room, Bathroom and did a lot of sucking , kissing maybe even fucking. As we were leaving the guy asked for his money, my friend said that they just "played" around and didn't have sex. My friend said when money was never talked about. So the GP was upset at the entrance. I called Edgar over, explained what happened and he asked the boy "did you guys agree on a price and did he say yes to a programma?" The guy said no and Edgar said, no transaction happened if the customer didn't agree to a programma....he told the boy to go away and to learn his lesson.

I told my friend what he did was wrong and that we'd better get out of there before the guy is waiting for him down the street.

So I think Kevie was in the same boat, not being cheap like my friend. Just that he didn't sign the deal and I don't think any money is due.....was nice of him to buy the drink so at least the GP can save face at least and it didn't blow up to an altercation.

[Riobard]

It is up to the provider to develop a skilled read of desires, intentions, etc, and not stereotype a football stud in terms of the imperative of blowing a load. Sometimes Kevie simply wants to decompress his day, non-gender specific, just like many of us. 

Edited March 7, 2020 by Riobard