Members mvan1 Posted August 24, 2019 Members Posted August 24, 2019 When Notre Dame was on fire, it was seen as a global emergency, millions of people physically sent millions to an already millionaire church/tourist attraction. The Earth's most important LUNG is ON FIRE right now, yet we are not nearly as concerned... #AmazonRainforest 7:17 AM · Aug 21, 2019 pauleiro, SolaceSoul and AdamSmith 2 1 Quote
Members SolaceSoul Posted August 24, 2019 Members Posted August 24, 2019 An estimated 20% of the world’s oxygen is produced by the Amazon rainforest! If destroyed or degraded, the Amazon, as a system, is simply beyond humanity’s ability to get back. Even if people were to replant half a continent’s worth of trees, the diversity of creatures across Amazonia, once lost, will not be replenished for roughly 10 million years. What happens to the Amazon is ALL of our business. Oxygen is far more valuable to humans and living creatures than oil. This is non-negotiable. mvan1 and AdamSmith 1 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Members Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SolaceSoul said: An estimated 20% of the world’s oxygen is produced by the Amazon rainforest! If destroyed or degraded, the Amazon, as a system, is simply beyond humanity’s ability to get back. Even if people were to replant half a continent’s worth of trees, the diversity of creatures across Amazonia, once lost, will not be replenished for roughly 10 million years. What happens to the Amazon is ALL of our business. Oxygen is far more valuable to humans and living creatures than oil. This is non-negotiable. It is not only oil Brazil wants from the Amazon. Bolsonaro and his buddies want to clear the plant life in order to have more space to grow more exportable food and animal products, mainly - beef. Brazil is already a heavy exporter of beef and other farm products. The additional land made available (by burning and clearing the Amazon) will, supposedly, allow Brazil to increase farm production thus bringing in more money to Brazil via exports to other countries. As to the air being reduced from the deforestation - that is also a hoax according to Trump and Bolsonaro (despite scientific proof to the contrary). "Global warming is a hoax" is a montra often repeated by Trump and/or Bolsonaro and/or any of their many low IQ supporters). Trump has an easy solution for those who are gullible enough "to believe the hoax". If the worldwide oxygen really thins to a point of being an issue to all life (animal and plant), we humans can always survive if we each buy one of these things: https://store.mainclinicsupply.com/inogen-one-g3-portable-oxygen-concentrator-p/inogen-c.htm#&panel1-4?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwIPrBRCJARIsAFlVT8_Jn72_amf06p82nRV7v6Uy3axI9iNJTT1tOQAQTMSlPFFhh2HdpQAaAmCyEALw_wcB The morons (Trump, Bolsonaro and their puttet supporters) forgot to mention that food we eat to live (animal and plant life) also needs oxygen to grow and survive. Those morons offer no logical solution. They continue to repeat the false claim that global warming is a hoax and that deforestation of the Amazon is not a real threat. Moreover, such an act will result in a major source of food and revenue to Brazil. Rubbish - Edited August 24, 2019 by mvan1 AdamSmith and SolaceSoul 1 1 Quote
Members Kyle4U Posted August 24, 2019 Members Posted August 24, 2019 Bolsonaro is sending in the military to fight the fires. What does that mean for the streets of Rio? Quote
Members Kyle4U Posted August 24, 2019 Members Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, mvan1 said: It is not only oil Brazil wants from the Amazon. Bolsonaro and his buddies want to clear the plant life in order to have more space to grow more exportable food and animal products, mainly - beef. Brazil is already a heavy exporter of beef and other farm products. The additional land made available (by burning and clearing the Amazon) will, supposedly, allow Brazil to increase farm production thus bringing in more money to Brazil via exports to other countries. As to the air being reduced from the deforestation - that is also a hoax according to Trump and Bolsonaro (despite scientific proof to the contrary). "Global warming is a hoax" is a montra often repeated by Trump and/or Bolsonaro and/or any of their many low IQ supporters). Trump has an easy solution for those who are gullible enough "to believe the hoax". If the worldwide oxygen really thins to a point of being an issue to all life (animal and plant), we humans can always survive if we each buy one of these things: https://store.mainclinicsupply.com/inogen-one-g3-portable-oxygen-concentrator-p/inogen-c.htm#&panel1-4?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwIPrBRCJARIsAFlVT8_Jn72_amf06p82nRV7v6Uy3axI9iNJTT1tOQAQTMSlPFFhh2HdpQAaAmCyEALw_wcB The morons (Trump, Bolsonaro and their puttet supporters) forgot to mention that food we eat to live (animal and plant life) also needs oxygen to grow and survive. Those morons offer no solution. They continue to repeat the false claim that global warming is a hoax and that deforestation of the Amazon is not a real threat. Moreover, such an act will result in a major source of food and revenue to Brazil. Rubbish - Actually according to Trump its a "CHINESE HOAX" Quote
Members mvan1 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Members Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Kyle4U said: Actually according to Trump its a "CHINESE HOAX" Trump is a lunatic - AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted August 24, 2019 Members Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Going on for decades, not new but cumulatively increasingly worrisome. Bolsonaro, which I believe loosely translates to bag of hoop (where 'hoop' is Irish slang for ass), will try sucking up hero credit for bandaid solution. Edited August 24, 2019 by Riobard Quote
Members Riobard Posted August 24, 2019 Members Posted August 24, 2019 Quelle surprise ... mvan1 and AdamSmith 1 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Members Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Brazil: Brazil is the world's largest exporter of coffee, soybeans, beef, and crop-based ethanol. All of the above products need land on which to grow (and later be exported). Burning the plant life of the Amazon in order to acquire growing farm space is what Bolsonaro has on his agenda. However, he is getting opposition from Europe and threats to boycott products exported from Brazil. How will this madness end? Edited August 24, 2019 by mvan1 SolaceSoul 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 It will end in our planetary suicide. https://www.climatecentral.org/news/we-just-breached-the-410-parts-per-million-threshold-21372 SolaceSoul 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Members Posted August 25, 2019 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/23/brazils-bolsonaro-hits-back-at-frances-macron-over-amazon-fires.html Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Why do I not trust Bolsonaro’s good faith too much on this one? (Beef & ethanol are 2 of the biggest govt-promoted unsustainable things going.) Quote
Members pauleiro Posted August 25, 2019 Members Posted August 25, 2019 According to a tweet from President Trump and a Bolsonaro's conference, the need of oxygen for human beings is a Chinese hoax. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted August 25, 2019 Members Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Wait a minute, when POTUS and POB agree there’s fire where there’s smoke, we should value it like O2. It’s like ‘Oh hell yeah’ to the power of two. Tariff them tricky Ch-eye-na ciggies. Edited August 25, 2019 by Riobard AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted August 27, 2019 Members Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 3:38 PM, Kyle4U said: "Oh hell to the naw naw ... not tricking me this time!" AdamSmith 1 Quote