Someone FINALLY Tells Guy Fawkes to STFU

[nynakedtop]

As you may know, I was long ago banned from that other site for daring to speak the truth. All for the better I would say as much of it has been overrun by a clique of crazy right (white) wing conspiracy believing loonies/

There was a colorful character there (personally known to me) LeonTrotsky/aka "SexyAsianStud" who finally told Ms.Fawkes himself to STFU and kiss his ass.

All I can say is -- FINALLY!!

[kjun12]

I have always thought that Fawkes and Daddy were one and the same person.

[caeron]

 

The noise to signal ratio made it a waste of time years ago and I left. So much drama, so little information.

I check every so often to see if it has changed. It hasn't.

[nynakedtop]

4 hours ago, caeron said:

 

The noise to signal ratio made it a waste of time years ago and I left. So much drama, so little information.

I check every so often to see if it has changed. It hasn't.

There is no question that it has become the home to a cabal of crazed right wingers, desperate for a platform and desperate attention.

Qute honestly, I did not even know that such people existed and never expected to find a gay forum where they had such a huge presence. Gotta believe that they are loved and encouraged by the leadership of the forum which makes the whole thing even more sketchy.

I'd say the clock is ticking on that site.

[AdamSmith]

2 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

I’d say the clock is ticking on that site.

https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/past-statements/

[nynakedtop]

2 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/past-statements/

the countdown clock is a great analogy -

the amazing thing about Guy Fawkes & Co. is that they embrace the very people who would bring about their doom. correct me if i am wrong, but there is a certain lunatic self-disgust/hatred thing going on.

but finally someone did not cower in fear and told that old fart to, indeed, shut the fuck up (and, i believe, also kiss his asian ass!)

encouraging him to come over to this site as well.... he is on a 30 day timeout but has no intention on ever going back.

[RockHardNYC]

8 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

There is no question that it has become the home to a cabal of crazed right wingers…I did not even know that such (gay) people existed

Many years ago, when my lust for Benjamin Nicholas affected the stature of my rock hard erection, I offered frequent contributions at Hooville. I, too, was stunned by the number of right wingers on that board, especially in admin. Sources tell me that the old, bald queen known as Epigonos, also known for his (gag-me) deviled eggs, has no difficulty spewing his Republican views if he corners you at the PS pool party. I would have enjoyed smashing an egg in his face if he ever tried that with me.

I love talking politics with smart, informed people, but I tend to avoid political chit-chat on the internet. I don't recall Hooboy's politics. I tried to ignore Daddy's posts as much as possible, but I suspected he had strong political opinions that leaned toward a mix of Republican and Libertarian, a weird mix for sure. Add to that his love of sci-fi, and you got a crazy cake for sure.

Cooper the mod was an admitted Republican who claimed to enjoy placing dollar bills in a male stripper's ass crack. The picture in my mind of a White, cheap, fat, classist subjugator was always quite vivid. So I never hesitated to mock him, and I got banned for it. A personally proud moment, for sure.

I have a number of friends who vote Republican, but they're all heterosexual businessmen. NYC Republicans are their own breed. They're often selfish and greedy, so paying less taxes is their singular voting issue. They're not much interested in culture wars. I don't have any close gay friends who are registered Republicans. Never have in all my years in NYC. I'm not quite sure how I would make a close friendship like that work. I'm glad I haven't had to give it much thought.

I don't understand why any gay man would vote Republican, even if he's filthy rich. The way AIDS was handled by the Republicans in the 1980's was bad enough. The party's consistent homophobic, anti-gay policies, while many were sucking dick and taking hard cock up the ass in secret, is way too much damaging hypocrisy for any community to forgive and forget. In NYC, I'm often reminded of the expression, "self-hating Jew." I suppose there is also such a thing as a "self-hating gay."

There are plenty of studies available on the internet that look at why people vote against their own interest. Examples are evident in my own Midwest family.

Some parents are hard-core one way or another. And they raise their children to think in the same manner. Brainwashing the kids, and it works. Thankfully, my parents believed in free-thinking, so they did not try to control our minds. My dad voted for Ronald Reagan, but he also voted for Bill Clinton twice. My parents were registered Democrats, but they weren't always loyal to one party.

Racism plays a large role, but that's for another thread. I do hate the racists.

Recently, my gun-loving Republican cousin had to put her mother into a nursing home. In time, her mother's assets were depleted, and she faced two choices: pay out of her own pocket or sign her mother up for Medicaid.

When I tell you that my cousins are all staunch Republicans (they hate anything named Clinton), "crazed right winger" doesn't even touch the surface. Of course my cousin signed her mother up for Medicaid. With a few homes and a few boats, the thought of spending personal money was too much to endure. But here's the kicker: their red state was reluctant to accept Medicaid expansion in the ACA. Eventually, at great hoopla, their Republican governor accepted it. If it hadn't been for President Barack Obama, whom they hated, there would have been no option to put her mother on Medicaid.

I would love the opportunity to throw their hypocritical bullshit right back in their faces, but I have limited time left in my life and I'm too disinterested in fighting with assholes. I want to spend the last third of my life in the peace I create, so I decided to cut ties without telling them. I bought property in Italy, so it's very easy to escape family functions. "Sorry, I'll be in Italy."

Edited August 16, 2019 by RockHardNYC

[nynakedtop]

Of course all of this begs the question:

Why do gay men in 2019 America patronize an internet forum that hosts and encourages rabid right wingers while taking the voice away from any progressive person who challenges their maniacal positions in a substantive way?

I think Mr. Fawkes & Co. take themselves way too seriously, have a grossly inflated sense of their importance, and need to be put in their place.

And that is not out of bitterness - it is a reasoned response to a crazy anti-gay parasite who claims to be doing our community a service.

[RockHardNYC]

3 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

Why do gay men in 2019 America patronize an internet forum that hosts and encourages rabid right wingers while taking the voice away from any progressive person who challenges their maniacal positions in a substantive way?

The simple answer is: Hooboy was an original, and for many years reigned as a monopoly. There are plenty of old-timers on that board who don't know any other escort board. And being from a distant generation, many of them are probably old Republicans, who spent a good deal of their life in the closet.

Men who like to talk about their exploits with male escorts are a weird and eclectic bunch. I suspect many are not fully out of the closet. It's a niche market, for sure, and there doesn't seem to be the numbers to support two or more thriving boards. Internet forum life is a numbers game, and most gay men like to swim in a sea of other men. When it comes to talking about man-on-man sex, someone's political views may not matter all that much. Furthermore, the politics forum is a separate place. Users don't need to read that shit unless they want to. Swim with the pol sharks at your own risk.

The big Daddy's health and financial well being are precarious. He's not going to last forever. I hear Benjamin Nicholas has been calling for donations. I never would have predicted that. Perhaps someone offered to re-link his blog. I suspect the big Daddy will handle the transfer of the board a bit differently than Hooboy. Imagine the board being run by Deej and all his multiple usernames also asking for donations. I'll pass. I'd rather talk to myself naked in a mirror.

3 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

I think Mr. Fawkes & Co. take themselves way too seriously, have a grossly inflated sense of their importance, and need to be put in their place.

Don't waste your time. Life is too precious to care that much. Every forum on the internet has a personality. The buck usually stops with the owner, but the mods are often gifted with great latitude, especially if they work for free.

You can't control people, especially the people footing the bill for your free speech pleasure. The best you can do is take caution when rubbing elbows with strangers, and take whatever pleasure you can find without trying to change the personality of the board's owner. It's the owner's playpen. He pays the bandwidth bill. He gets to run his board as he pleases.

[AdamSmith]

3 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

I think Mr. Fawkes & Co. take themselves way too seriously, have a grossly inflated sense of their importance, and need to be put in their place.

Can’t recall where I first read this phrase:

‘A small man, with a small amount of power.’

[RockHardNYC]

16 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

‘A small man, with a small amount of power.’

It really is that simple.

No matter what the subject, internet forums are fiefdoms. Each has its own leader. Each has its own rules. The owners and mods get to pretend they're the handsome stanchions who once guarded the entrance to Studio 54. Hasn't everyone seen the photo of Daddy he once stupidly posted? Imagining him with that bulbous, pregnant gut as a Studio 54 bouncer is really funny.

When you analyze the participation number of that forum, you see how small the group of contributors is. Aren't they due for another meltdown? Someone wake me when the fat lady sings.

[AdamSmith]

9 hours ago, RockHardNYC said:

Someone wake me when the fat lady sings.

Online pic I can’t find right now of Milton Berle in Elizabethan drag. 

[TotallyOz]

On 8/16/2019 at 12:41 PM, kjun12 said:

I have always thought that Fawkes and Daddy were one and the same person.

That is what I thought as well. Is that not correct?

[AdamSmith]

2 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

That is what I thought as well. Is that not correct?

Yes. She is he. 

[RockHardNYC]

8 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

That is what I thought as well. Is that not correct?

You're not supposed to really know who Guy Fawkes is, but most users seem to believe what looks obvious. Daddy seems to love creating mystery while dodging as much responsibility as possible. A fake leader name is just another form of board (and bored) manipulation, no different than deej and his twenty usernames. Daddy and deej are both control queens.

At first, I heard the Fawkes account was created to be used by admin as necessary. The idea of using a fake leader name to discipline disruptive members can protect admin individuals from personal attacks and online retribution. When Fawkes speaks, and readers don't really know who is typing the words, a message is sent but personal backlash is thwarted.

Given the meltdown drama and troll history of Daddy's board, in theory, a Fawkes account might be effective, especially if the owner is too fat and lazy to moderate his board in a more professional manner. Proper moderation takes time, money, energy, and will. Daddy has been very clear he has none of these.

[AdamSmith]

On 8/18/2019 at 10:39 AM, RockHardNYC said:

Given the meltdown drama and troll history of Daddy's board, in theory, a Fawkes account might be effective, especially if the owner is too fat and lazy to moderate his board in a more professional manner. Proper moderation takes time, money, energy, and will. Daddy has been very clear he has none of these.

Occurs that Oz moderates here by keeping his hands off!

[RockHardNYC]

5 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Occurs that Oz moderates here by keeping his hands off!

I wouldn't describe Oz's style of moderation quite like that. He has made his patient feelings known, and most of us support his lighter, more receptive hand. That does not mean you can play him for a weak and feckless fool. He takes action when necessary, and he listens and responds to reasoned thinking. Big difference between Daddy and Co. and Oz.

A forum community with less activity is easier to control. One or two trolls won't cause a "meltdown." Not sure how Oz would handle some of the escort haters from Hooboy's days if those numbers were here. IMO, hate should never be tolerated in a gentleman's club. No smart forum owner would ever let cancer consume his community. Let's hope Oz will never need to be tested.

[AdamSmith]

1 hour ago, RockHardNYC said:

I wouldn't describe Oz's style of moderation quite like that. He has made his patient feelings known, and most of us support his lighter, more receptive hand. That does not mean you can play him for a weak and feckless fool. He takes action when necessary, and he listens and responds to reasoned thinking. Big difference between Daddy and Co. and Oz.

A forum community with less activity is easier to control. One or two trolls won't cause a "meltdown." Not sure how Oz would handle some of the escort haters from Hooboy's days if those numbers were here. IMO, hate should never be tolerated in a gentleman's club. No smart forum owner would ever let cancer consume his community. Let's hope Oz will never need to be tested.

Oz has absolutely 2 or 3 times come down to cut trolls here off their testicles & cast them out. Rightly. But no mommy-ish needless messing around in the forums day-to-day. He leave us to our own devices, on the supposition we can work things out among ourselves.

What an adult point of view.

[AdamSmith]

On 8/16/2019 at 9:12 AM, AdamSmith said:

https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/past-statements/

If every nuclear weapons R&D & production program on the planet could be  converted to a globally coordinated Manhattan Project to develop geoengineering technologies that would actually work to reverse climate change (all current ideas are dismally primitive, & look likely to do much more harm than good), we might have a chance at species survival.

Good luck with that?

[nynakedtop]

more purges at the hands of the right wing militia that has comfortably installed itself at the "daddy" site i am told.

it's nice that crazed right wingers have a warm and welcoming place in our very own midst.