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Someone FINALLY Tells Guy Fawkes to STFU

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As you may know, I was long ago banned from that other site for daring to speak the truth. All for the better I would say as much of it has been overrun by a clique of crazy right (white) wing conspiracy believing loonies/

There was a colorful character there (personally known to me) LeonTrotsky/aka "SexyAsianStud" who finally told Ms.Fawkes himself to STFU and kiss his ass.

All I can say is -- FINALLY!!

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4 hours ago, caeron said:

 

The noise to signal ratio made it a waste of time years ago and I left. So much drama, so little information.

I check every so often to see if it has changed. It hasn't.

There is no question that it has become the home to a cabal of crazed right wingers, desperate for a platform and desperate attention.

Qute honestly, I did not even know that such people existed and never expected to find a gay forum where they had such a huge presence. Gotta believe that they are loved and encouraged by the leadership of the forum which makes the whole thing even more sketchy.

I'd say the clock is ticking on that site.

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2 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

the countdown clock is a great analogy -

the amazing thing about Guy Fawkes & Co. is that they embrace the very people who would bring about their doom. correct me if i am wrong, but there is a certain lunatic self-disgust/hatred thing going on.

but finally someone did not cower in fear and told that old fart to, indeed, shut the fuck up (and, i believe, also kiss his asian ass!)

encouraging him to come over to this site as well.... he is on a 30 day timeout but has no intention on ever going back.

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Of course all of this begs the question:

Why do gay men in 2019 America patronize an internet forum that hosts and encourages rabid right wingers while taking the voice away from any progressive person who challenges their maniacal positions in a substantive way?

I think Mr. Fawkes & Co. take themselves way too seriously, have a grossly inflated sense of their importance, and need to be put in their place.

And that is not out of bitterness - it is a reasoned response to a crazy anti-gay parasite who claims to be doing our community a service.

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3 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

Why do gay men in 2019 America patronize an internet forum that hosts and encourages rabid right wingers while taking the voice away from any progressive person who challenges their maniacal positions in a substantive way?

The simple answer is: Hooboy was an original, and for many years reigned as a monopoly. There are plenty of old-timers on that board who don't know any other escort board. And being from a distant generation, many of them are probably old Republicans, who spent a good deal of their life in the closet.

Men who like to talk about their exploits with male escorts are a weird and eclectic bunch. I suspect many are not fully out of the closet. It's a niche market, for sure, and there doesn't seem to be the numbers to support two or more thriving boards. Internet forum life is a numbers game, and most gay men like to swim in a sea of other men. When it comes to talking about man-on-man sex, someone's political views may not matter all that much. Furthermore, the politics forum is a separate place. Users don't need to read that shit unless they want to. Swim with the pol sharks at your own risk.

The big Daddy's health and financial well being are precarious. He's not going to last forever. I hear Benjamin Nicholas has been calling for donations. I never would have predicted that. Perhaps someone offered to re-link his blog. I suspect the big Daddy will handle the transfer of the board a bit differently than Hooboy. Imagine the board being run by Deej and all his multiple usernames also asking for donations. I'll pass. I'd rather talk to myself naked in a mirror.

3 hours ago, nynakedtop said:

I think Mr. Fawkes & Co. take themselves way too seriously, have a grossly inflated sense of their importance, and need to be put in their place.

Don't waste your time. Life is too precious to care that much. Every forum on the internet has a personality. The buck usually stops with the owner, but the mods are often gifted with great latitude, especially if they work for free.

You can't control people, especially the people footing the bill for your free speech pleasure. The best you can do is take caution when rubbing elbows with strangers, and take whatever pleasure you can find without trying to change the personality of the board's owner. It's the owner's playpen. He pays the bandwidth bill. He gets to run his board as he pleases.

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16 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

‘A small man, with a small amount of power.’

It really is that simple.

No matter what the subject, internet forums are fiefdoms. Each has its own leader. Each has its own rules. The owners and mods get to pretend they're the handsome stanchions who once guarded the entrance to Studio 54. Hasn't everyone seen the photo of Daddy he once stupidly posted? Imagining him with that bulbous, pregnant gut as a Studio 54 bouncer is really funny.

When you analyze the participation number of that forum, you see how small the group of contributors is. Aren't they due for another meltdown? Someone wake me when the fat lady sings.

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8 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

That is what I thought as well. Is that not correct?

You're not supposed to really know who Guy Fawkes is, but most users seem to believe what looks obvious. Daddy seems to love creating mystery while dodging as much responsibility as possible. A fake leader name is just another form of board (and bored) manipulation, no different than deej and his twenty usernames. Daddy and deej are both control queens.

At first, I heard the Fawkes account was created to be used by admin as necessary. The idea of using a fake leader name to discipline disruptive members can protect admin individuals from personal attacks and online retribution. When Fawkes speaks, and readers don't really know who is typing the words, a message is sent but personal backlash is thwarted.

Given the meltdown drama and troll history of Daddy's board, in theory, a Fawkes account might be effective, especially if the owner is too fat and lazy to moderate his board in a more professional manner. Proper moderation takes time, money, energy, and will. Daddy has been very clear he has none of these.

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On 8/18/2019 at 10:39 AM, RockHardNYC said:

Given the meltdown drama and troll history of Daddy's board, in theory, a Fawkes account might be effective, especially if the owner is too fat and lazy to moderate his board in a more professional manner. Proper moderation takes time, money, energy, and will. Daddy has been very clear he has none of these.

Occurs that Oz moderates here by keeping his hands off!

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5 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Occurs that Oz moderates here by keeping his hands off!

I wouldn't describe Oz's style of moderation quite like that. He has made his patient feelings known, and most of us support his lighter, more receptive hand. That does not mean you can play him for a weak and feckless fool. He takes action when necessary, and he listens and responds to reasoned thinking. Big difference between Daddy and Co. and Oz.

A forum community with less activity is easier to control. One or two trolls won't cause a "meltdown." Not sure how Oz would handle some of the escort haters from Hooboy's days if those numbers were here. IMO, hate should never be tolerated in a gentleman's club. No smart forum owner would ever let cancer consume his community. Let's hope Oz will never need to be tested.

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1 hour ago, RockHardNYC said:

I wouldn't describe Oz's style of moderation quite like that. He has made his patient feelings known, and most of us support his lighter, more receptive hand. That does not mean you can play him for a weak and feckless fool. He takes action when necessary, and he listens and responds to reasoned thinking. Big difference between Daddy and Co. and Oz.

A forum community with less activity is easier to control. One or two trolls won't cause a "meltdown." Not sure how Oz would handle some of the escort haters from Hooboy's days if those numbers were here. IMO, hate should never be tolerated in a gentleman's club. No smart forum owner would ever let cancer consume his community. Let's hope Oz will never need to be tested.

Oz has absolutely 2 or 3 times come down to cut trolls here off their testicles & cast them out. Rightly. But no mommy-ish needless messing around in the forums day-to-day. He leave us to our own devices, on the supposition we can work things out among ourselves.

What an adult point of view.

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On 8/16/2019 at 9:12 AM, AdamSmith said:

If every nuclear weapons R&D & production program on the planet could be  converted to a globally coordinated Manhattan Project to develop geoengineering technologies that would actually work to reverse climate change (all current ideas are dismally primitive, & look likely to do much more harm than good), we might have a chance at species survival.

Good luck with that?

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