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Wow! I’ll go to Rio mid April and I can’t wait! It’ll be my first time and I’m pretty exited. I’ve got an Airbnb allocated between Ipanema and Copacabana. 

Obviously I’m curious about the well praised sauna experience. I’m just worried it is like Barcelona.... There the boys handle you like just another number..:rush rush. Sexy guys, but mediocre sex...Regarding to Rio is read you guys even invite the good ons for extracurricular activities outside the sauna? Interesting.

Another thing is I like to cruise or go on Grindr and meet guys. If after meeting them on neutral ground turns out to be positive, I’d like to take them for play. My method in Havana (and sometimes in Colombia) is to ask their ID before take them. Any more thoughts on this issue?

Anyway I’m sure I love the big, fit, large cocked Brazilian gorotas!!

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3 hours ago, Tomcal said:

I just don't know what it proves

Presumably the ID also shows their date of birth? And if you’re interested in a young man, it’s great to be certain that he is of legal age.

I can’t speak to Rio/Brazil but it was definitely a problem in Buenos Aires/Argentina where under-age guys pretend to be legal in order to meet rich men. It happened to me 2x and only by checking their ID first did I keep things ‘above-board’. I was told by an Argentine lawyer that it was a regular scam at Retiro station bathrooms where families used their attractive teenagers to lure adult men into an encounter. The idea was not to earn some small sum of cash but to blackmail the adult men by threatening to report them to the Police.

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36 minutes ago, msclelovr said:

I was told by an Argentine lawyer that it was a regular scam at Retiro station bathrooms where families used their attractive teenagers to lure adult men into an encounter. The idea was not to earn some small sum of cash but to blackmail the adult men by threatening to report them to the Police.

This scam is also extremely common in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic — often with actual police involved in the scam. Most reputable tour guides for sex travelers (seeking men or women) dutifully warn upfront about engaging with anyone that even looks close to the age of 18. The slicker scammers will get what could be an innocent photo of the tourist seemingly engaged with the underaged boy or girl (like sitting on his lap on the patio of a restaurant) to bolster their claims. 

I have also heard of this occurring on beaches popular with tourists / sex tourists.

Cuba is also a place where you’d want to check everyone’s ID —- by law everyone must carry one, anyway.

It’s so common in Latin and South America that I just assumed that this crime of opportunity is also used in other hot spots there, including but not limited to Brazil. Although I have never witnessed or encountered it, that could be because I have no attraction to anything that looks barely legal and therefore, wouldn’t engage anyway. Nonetheless, it’s probably a good idea to check the ID if there is any doubt whatsoever. Hotels (if you use them) and some apartment building front desks will usually require IDs from visitors, anyway.  

Side note, and not to scare anyone (ok, maybe just a little): anyone planning on photographing or videotaping anyone in a sex act or with exposed genitalia (which could be loosely defined as “pornography”), by USA law, MUST not only check IDs, but maintain proof of that ID in easily accessible records at all time. The laws could be similarly strict or even stricter in other countries. As soon as you hit US soil with the file of those videos or photos (or you upload them to a US-based site — like Xtube), that law applies. 18 USC 2257.

So... have fun,  but watch yourselves.

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brazilian id is showing date of birth. 

whenever i have been in doubt, that guy has 18 years, i have asked for id.  and it was never a problem. just once with a guy on ipanema beach, who offered himself twice on the same day, but he didn't have id.  based on that i have declined a meeting with him.

all other boys, who i have asked, had their id available for inspection without any problem.

i am not saying that brazilian id can not be counterfeited, but for me this is additional step for security.

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11 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

This scam is also extremely common in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic — often with actual police involved in the scam. Most reputable tour guides for sex travelers (seeking men or women) dutifully warn upfront about engaging with anyone that even looks close to the age of 18. The slicker scammers will get what could be an innocent photo of the tourist seemingly engaged with the underaged boy or girl (like sitting on his lap on the patio of a restaurant) to bolster their claims. 

I have also heard of this occurring on beaches popular with tourists / sex tourists.

Cuba is also a place where you’d want to check everyone’s ID —- by law everyone must carry one, anyway.

It’s so common in Latin and South America that I just assumed that this crime of opportunity is also used in other hot spots there, including but not limited to Brazil. Although I have never witnessed or encountered it, that could be because I have no attraction to anything that looks barely legal and therefore, wouldn’t engage anyway. Nonetheless, it’s probably a good idea to check the ID if there is any doubt whatsoever. Hotels (if you use them) and some apartment building front desks will usually require IDs from visitors, anyway.  

Side note, and not to scare anyone (ok, maybe just a little): anyone planning on photographing or videotaping anyone in a sex act or with exposed genitalia (which could be loosely defined as “pornography”), by USA law, MUST not only check IDs, but maintain proof of that ID in easily accessible records at all time. The laws could be similarly strict or even stricter in other countries. As soon as you hit US soil with the file of those videos or photos (or you upload them to a US-based site — like Xtube), that law applies. 18 USC 2257.

So... have fun,  but watch yourselves.

Besides taking a picture of their ID, I also ask them to sign a release form giving me total control on the pictures.

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Alright, alright. Bottem line is: you invite guys back to your place as well, but common sense (and smart safety precautions) is necessary. 

It reminds me of the ‘security level’ I imply when I play in Havana or Colombia. Keep your wits about, avoid dodgy guys, ask ID as leverage, don’t carry valuables etc. In the sauna I’ll take my time and make clear expectations before taking a guy  

Thanks for your insights; I’m ready to break the Brazilian ice! My slut tour starts April 16th ;-)

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On 3/5/2019 at 9:37 PM, snwbrdr015 said:

Alright, alright. Bottem line is: you invite guys back to your place as well, but common sense (and smart safety precautions) is necessary. 

It reminds me of the ‘security level’ I imply when I play in Havana or Colombia. Keep your wits about, avoid dodgy guys, ask ID as leverage, don’t carry valuables etc. In the sauna I’ll take my time and make clear expectations before taking a guy  

Thanks for your insights; I’m ready to break the Brazilian ice! My slut tour starts April 16th ;-)

Enjoy your slut tour ! Xx

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On 3/5/2019 at 5:02 AM, msclelovr said:

Presumably the ID also shows their date of birth? And if you’re interested in a young man, it’s great to be certain that he is of legal age.

If you are just having sex (and not filming, nor paying for sex) then the age of consent is 14 in Brasil, so it seems very unlikely that you will find a guy that is not legal and not notice how young he is! 

If you are paying, then it is prostitution, in which case of course the guy has to be 18. 

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7 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

If you are just having sex (and not filming, nor paying for sex) then the age of consent is 14 in Brasil, so it seems very unlikely that you will find a guy that is not legal and not notice how young he is! 

If you are paying, then it is prostitution, in which case of course the guy has to be 18. 

The age of consent for all Americans traveling abroad is 18. The laws of each country are irrelevant.

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2 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

The age of consent for all Americans traveling abroad is 18. The laws of each country are irrelevant.

Interesting. I had no idea. Some of us are not an American, we don’t learn American law at school and it doesn’t apply to us  

What is interesting is that if you have an American passport, and live in NJ, the age of consent in NJ is 16, but it switches up to 18 when you go to a country that has a lower age of consent. 

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5 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

DWhat is interesting is that if you have an American passport, and live in NJ, the age of consent in NJ is 16, but it switches up to 18 when you go to a country that has a lower age of consent. 

The age of consent laws in any state in the USA have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you have a US passport. It’s all about the jurisdiction under which the act (or attempted act) occurred, and the age of the parties. It’s called “statutory” for a reason. So, if a certain state statute (like the one in NJ) says “the age of consent is 16”, it doesn’t matter if the offender has a US passport or is a US citizen or green card holder or not, or if the alleged victim or pursued victim has a passport or is a citizen. What’s all that matters to state law is: where did the alleged crime occur? What’s the age of consent in that state? What’s the age of the parties involved?

l will also throw in the even more important federal US statute that covers anything in the USA and its territories: Federal law makes it criminal to engage in a sexual act with another person who is between the age of 12 and 16 if they are at least four years younger than you. Since you are WAYYYYY past the age of being 4 years older than a 16 year old, you would be prosecuted by the Feds anywhere in the USA and its territories for even attempting to engage in sexual conduct with anyone 16 years or younger.

And then, there are federal laws on age of consent that apply to US citizens and permanent residents (green card holders) when they are traveling abroad. The Protect Act of 2003 prohibits U.S. citizens and legal residents from illicit sexual conduct including commercial sex (prostitution, etc.) with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age. This law applies even if the country in which the sexual acts take place has a lower age of consent.

The “safe” age in the USA and its territories as well as the rest of the free world is 18. Only a fool would even risk it — but as we have learned here, there are quite a few fools around these parts.

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4 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

The age of consent laws in any state in the USA have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you have a US passport. It’s all about the jurisdiction under which the act (or attempted act) occurred, and the age of the parties. It’s called “statutory” for a reason. So, if a certain state statute (like the one in NJ) says “the age of consent is 16”, it doesn’t matter if the offender has a US passport or is a US citizen or green card holder or not, or if the alleged victim or pursued victim has a passport or is a citizen. What’s all that matters to state law is: where did the alleged crime occur? What’s the age of consent in that state? What’s the age of the parties involved?

l will also throw in the even more important federal US statute that covers anything in the USA and its territories: Federal law makes it criminal to engage in a sexual act with another person who is between the age of 12 and 16 if they are at least four years younger than you. Since you are WAYYYYY past the age of being 4 years older than a 16 year old, you would be prosecuted by the Feds anywhere in the USA and its territories for even attempting to engage in sexual conduct with anyone 16 years or younger.

And then, there are federal laws on age of consent that apply to US citizens and permanent residents (green card holders) when they are traveling abroad. The Protect Act of 2003 prohibits U.S. citizens and legal residents from illicit sexual conduct including commercial sex (prostitution, etc.) with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age. This law applies even if the country in which the sexual acts take place has a lower age of consent.

The “safe” age in the USA and its territories as well as the rest of the free world is 18. Only a fool would even risk it — but as we have learned here, there are quite a few fools around these parts.

I don’t think you understood me, and that’s my fault, I repeated “in NJ” unnecessarily.

I pointed out “if you have an American passport” not because it matters what passport you hold when you are in NJ, but because it matters when you are in Brasil. American laws do not apply to Europeans in Brasil. But anyway. 

It seems you and @TotallyOz disagree about age of consent for non-commercial sex, for Americans when they are abroad,. Oz’s post says 18, your post says 16. Not that I am personally interested. But @numazu1 might be interested to tell his friend. 

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2 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

t seems you and @TotallyOz disagree about age of consent for non-commercial sex, for Americans when they are abroad,. Oz’s post says 18, your post says 16. Not that I am personally interested. But @numazu1 might be interested to tell his friend

You apparently skipped over the last part of my post?

”The “safe” age in the USA and its territories as well as the rest of the free world is 18. Only a fool would even risk it — but as we have learned here, there are quite a few fools around these parts.”

Also, you failed to understand this part of my post that, I thought, clearly states that the ages of 12-16 for non-commercial sex would only be legal for US citizens or permanent residents in any country in the world under limited circumstances (if the minor is between 12-16, the perpetrator can’t be more than 4 years older than the alleged victim).

”The Protect Act of 2003 prohibits U.S. citizens and legal residents from illicit sexual conduct including commercial sex (prostitution, etc.) with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age. This law applies even if the country in which the sexual acts take place has a lower age of consent.”


 

 
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20 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

You apparently skipped over the last part of my post?

”The “safe” age in the USA and its territories as well as the rest of the free world is 18. Only a fool would even risk it — but as we have learned here, there are quite a few fools around these parts.”

Also, you failed to understand this part of my post that, I thought, clearly states that the ages of 12-16 for non-commercial sex would only be legal for US citizens or permanent residents in any country in the world under limited circumstances (if the minor is between 12-16, the perpetrator can’t be more than 4 years older than the alleged victim).

”The Protect Act of 2003 prohibits U.S. citizens and legal residents from illicit sexual conduct including commercial sex (prostitution, etc.) with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age. This law applies even if the country in which the sexual acts take place has a lower age of consent.”


 

 
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I have not skipped anything. You are not even trying to understand what I wrote. I give up. 

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