Members kjun12 Posted February 15, 2019 Members Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) I am having a problem believing Jussie Smollet's assertion that he was attacked in Chicago. What is of particular concern to me is that he has consistently refused to turn over information located on his cell phone. He is being just foo reticent in his cooperation with police. No proof has been given that he staged the alleged attack for publicity purposes but that does linger in the background. Edited February 15, 2019 by kjun12 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 15, 2019 Members Posted February 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, kjun12 said: What is of particular concern to me is that he has consistently refused to turn over information located on his cell phone. He is refusing to turn over his cell phone to law enforcement, and I don't blame him for that. I would not hand over my cell phone either. There are plenty of other ways to cooperate without surrendering personal computers to law enforcement. Furthermore, the Chicago police are not supporting the hoax theory (yet), and they've addressed it in a statement. 7 minutes ago, kjun12 said: No proof has been given that he staged the alleged attack for publicity purposes but that does linger in the background. It lingers in the background because it's click-bate, and tons of people bite on it in the Trump era of lies, especially in the world of online media. If Jessie Smollet was stupid enough to "stage an attack for publicity purposes," then he clearly shot himself and his very young career in both feet. Smart people have been known to do very stupid things, especially the self-destructive among us. But I'm very reluctant to believe conspiracy theories spread on the internet. If the gossip about this incident turns out to be true, then Smollet's career will be over, and he may end up in jail. Given the discipline it takes to break into show business, I find it hard to fathom that a young, talented, Black, working actor would be so utterly self-destructive, especially if he's not a functioning drug addict (which some are). axiom2001 and AdamSmith 1 1 Quote
Members axiom2001 Posted February 15, 2019 Members Posted February 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, RockHardNYC said: If the gossip about this incident turns out to be true, then Smollet's career will be over, and he may end up in jail. Given the discipline it takes to break into show business, I find it hard to fathom that a young, talented, Black, working actor would be so utterly self-destructive, especially if he's not a functioning drug addict (which some are). I'm with you here. Mr. Smollet's career was on the upswing. Why ruin it now by staging a false attack? Let us all wait and allow the situation to play out through careful and intensive investigating, etc..... AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, kjun12 said: No proof has been given that he staged the alleged attack for publicity purposes but that does linger in the background. Given his career success to date, why would he need to do that? Your comment reveals considerably more about you than about him. Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 Yes, I believe him. I hope he is OK. He is a good actor, a good singer and deserves our belief in him. I would not turn over my phone to cops either. I do not fault him for that. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Latbear4blk Posted February 17, 2019 Members Posted February 17, 2019 Well, it looks like he made it up. If it is true, his career is over. It would be such a stupid, stupid movement, and so miserable morally and politically. It makes me sad. Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Latbear4blk said: Well, it looks like he made it up. If it is true, his career is over. It would be such a stupid, stupid movement, and so miserable morally and politically. It makes me sad. Agree. If true, what a complete idiot. And much worse than just that word. Latbear4blk and axiom2001 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 They didn't give great detail in the CNN report I just read. But, if he made it up, very disappointed for him and our community. For fuck's sake. axiom2001, Latbear4blk and AdamSmith 2 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 If true, one thinks he was just out for self-promotion. Which sets the LGBTQ cause so far back, publicly. TotallyOz and axiom2001 2 Quote
Members kjun12 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Members Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 3:02 PM, AdamSmith said: Given his career success to date, why would he need to do that? Your comment reveals considerably more about you than about him. And, just what does it reveal about me? I am interested what thought you have. Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, kjun12 said: And, just what does it reveal about me? I am interested what thought you have. I take that post back, lock stock and barrel. I was wrong. I apologize, without reservation or attempted excuse. Latbear4blk, TotallyOz and RockHardNYC 3 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, AdamSmith said: I take that post back, lock stock and barrel. I was wrong. I apologize, without reservation or attempted excuse. Well, I don't think you were wrong. I read your statement as saying why judge him until we know more facts. I always agree with this approach. Innocent until proven guilty. I am not at the guilty stage yet. And, I hope it does not go there. But, it might. I'd be quite disappointed. But, I was disappointed in Bill Cosby and believed him up until a certain point. Latbear4blk and AdamSmith 1 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought-rope-used-in-jussie-smollett-attack/ Quote
caeron Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 The attack didn't seem random to me, which struck me as odd, but I will wait for the rest of the facts. AdamSmith and TotallyOz 2 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 17, 2019 Members Posted February 17, 2019 5 hours ago, caeron said: I will wait for the rest of the facts I prefer facts. I'm glad I have a ton of patience. This story is taking a bad turn, even though Smollet's lawyer has come out swinging. The story gets weirder by the minute, and every news corner seems to be covering it. I certainly wouldn't want the Chicago police investigating my life. I've had a ton of sex in Chicago. The gays there are serious about sexual pleasure. AdamSmith, TotallyOz and caeron 3 Quote
Members kjun12 Posted February 21, 2019 Author Members Posted February 21, 2019 Smollet has been charged by police with faking his assault. This just gets more interesting. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 21, 2019 Members Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, kjun12 said: This just gets more interesting. Or more depressing. In general, actors have a tough life. Very few work all the time and keep a steady income. Black actors have a particular challenge. Do I dare mention gay Black actors? This story is not looking good, on too many fronts. Very sad. Lucky, TotallyOz and caeron 3 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 21, 2019 Members Posted February 21, 2019 I just read the Comment section of the NY Times article on Smollett: Jussie Smollett Arrested on Felony Charge, Accused of Faking Own Assault The public's mood towards him is not looking or feeling good. If he is found guilty, the ramifications will be severe. Reading those comments, and mind you they are moderated, just goes to show the heightened levels of anxiety that exist in our seriously polarized nation. If Smollet is in fact guilty, he will have done damage that will be difficult to rectify. Serious damage, and all of us may be victims. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted February 21, 2019 Members Posted February 21, 2019 RockHardNYC: " Serious damage, and all of us may be victims." That's quite a good point. I think we are all set back by this. AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 http://www.homorazzi.com/article/jussie-smollett-leaked-nude-photos-naked-selfies-empire-nsfw-photos/ Quote
Members unicorn Posted February 22, 2019 Members Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 12:02 AM, AdamSmith said: Given his career success to date, why would he need to do that? Your comment reveals considerably more about you than about him. Did it reveal that RH has a good 6th sense? Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 I am an optimist. I hope it is all one big mistake. BTW: Adam, great dick pic of him. Shit, he is hot. Could this be why I trust him so much? AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 22, 2019 Members Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, TotallyOz said: Shit, he is hot. Could this be why I trust him so much? A sexy, young Black man with show-biz talent, especially a well-endowed one, does possess a certain power. 3 hours ago, TotallyOz said: I hope it is all one big mistake. It certainly is not looking good. The Chicago police press conference augmented by Rahm Emmanuel's TV tour is a nightmare beyond nightmares for Smollett. And Smollett invited it all by appearing on GMA. This hysteria may not rival OJ Simpson. No pretty blonde woman died. Still, the scene of the crowds following Smollett and his body guards after his surrender equaled the Simpson mayhem. The guy is going to need to go into hiding. My son took one look at the photo Adam posted and said, "They're going to love him in jail." AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 22, 2019 Members Posted February 22, 2019 And the shunning has begun. Smollett has been removed from the remaining two episodes of Empire. That suggests to me that his employers are finding it very difficult to believe and/or stand by him at this treacherous hour. Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/24/entertainment/jussie-smollett-terrence-howard-speaks/index.html Watch the video at the bottom of this with Jussie and the kid. Adorable. Quote