AdamSmith Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Yes! Warren flexes muscles with campaign kickoff tour https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/02/elizabeth-warren-2020-campaign-1144279 TotallyOz 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 I like her. I don't love her. I like Bernie. I don't love him. I like Cory. I don't love him. I like Biden. I do love him but is that enough? It will be an interesting primary. AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 4, 2019 Author Posted February 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, TotallyOz said: I like her. I don't love her. I like Bernie. I don't love him. I like Cory. I don't love him. I like Biden. I do love him but is that enough? It will be an interesting primary. I think she has the cojones to carry it through. The ones you named do too. Don’t know exactly why my instinct is that she is the one for the day & time. We’ll see. Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted February 10, 2019 Members Posted February 10, 2019 It's official, Elizabeth Warren formally announced today her Presidential Bid. At 69, you got to hand it to this woman. She's some kind of fighter. I'm personally thinking her time has come and gone. She didn't stand a chance against Hillary. Maybe there was a prime spot for her in the Hillary administration that we'll never know about. She really could have been something. Then she made the HUGE mistake of letting branding-baffoon Trump label her "Pocahontas" long before she ever dallied with a run for the White House. No different than Hillary giving her enemies that server in her basement. Unable to fully explain in a satisfactory manner how she came to label herself "American Indian," even on registration cards and employment records, she has a DNA test only to find she might have well said she was part Black. And then finally, just days ago, she kind of apologizes for all of it. That's one way to announce your run for President. I like Elizabeth Warren. I have always thought her heart was in the right place, looking out for the working Joe and his family. I'm kind of glad she's hanging in there with fists up. The more Trump bashes her, the stronger the women's movement gets. And you know Trump can't resist bashing her, even though she's nowhere near a threat. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted February 10, 2019 Members Posted February 10, 2019 I agree that her heart is in the right place, but I think she hurt herself badly with the American Indian claim. I don't believe her story about why she claimed it. Her relatives didn't. Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 10, 2019 Author Posted February 10, 2019 Agree, regrettably. This Amer-Indian stuff (self-inflicted) may have irretrievably hurt her. And it may be time for one of these newer-generational firebrands to take hold & let all loose. We can hope! Quote
Members RA1 Posted February 10, 2019 Members Posted February 10, 2019 I don't understand why many gays seem to want to be socialists. Is it the Sugar Daddy Syndrome in the form of Uncle Sugar? We already are trillions and trillions in debt + 10 times more in contingent liabilities. How can we justify adding more? Best regards, RA1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 11, 2019 Author Posted February 11, 2019 8 hours ago, RA1 said: I don't understand why many gays seem to want to be socialists. Is it the Sugar Daddy Syndrome in the form of Uncle Sugar? We already are trillions and trillions in debt + 10 times more in contingent liabilities. How can we justify adding more? Best regards, RA1 One respectfully asks, in distinct terms, how your comment relates to those above. I fully agree with you. I just don’t see the connection. Quote
Members RA1 Posted February 11, 2019 Members Posted February 11, 2019 12 hours ago, AdamSmith said: One respectfully asks, in distinct terms, how your comment relates to those above. I fully agree with you. I just don’t see the connection. All of the candidates mentioned (and many others) are promoting socialist programs. Thankfully most are so pie in the sky that they will never be enacted. Sorry to have been obtuse. Best regards, RA1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 12, 2019 Author Posted February 12, 2019 9 hours ago, RA1 said: All of the candidates mentioned (and many others) are promoting socialist programs. Thankfully most are so pie in the sky that they will never be enacted. Sorry to have been obtuse. Best regards, RA1 Got it. There is of course an argument to be made that the 19th-century Gilded Age, which we seem to be recreating today, led inevitably to the Depression. And that FDR’s judicious (mostly) applications of bits & pieces of socialism is what saved capitalism from itself. We shall just have to wait & see. RA1 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted February 12, 2019 Members Posted February 12, 2019 13 hours ago, AdamSmith said: Got it. There is of course an argument to be made that the 19th-century Gilded Age, which we seem to be recreating today, led inevitably to the Depression. And that FDR’s judicious (mostly) applications of bits & pieces of socialism is what saved capitalism from itself. We shall just have to wait & see. Agreed. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted February 20, 2019 Author Posted February 20, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 9:08 AM, RA1 said: Agreed. Best regards, RA1 There is also that the Republicans’ just-passed tax cuts, unfunded by any offsets, explode the deficit beyond anything seen before. And that every trial of ‘trickle-down’ economics has, to date, yielded nought. Or WORSE than nought. Quote
Members MsGuy Posted February 25, 2019 Members Posted February 25, 2019 What about the Kennedy tax cut back in the early 1960's? ----- Back in the 70's a group of conservative theorists came to the realization that restraining the Beast was a loser's game and came up with the strategy starving of starving it as a politically attractive alternative. Fuck the deficit, just cut taxes and the more irresponsibly revenue is cut, the better. Think about it... It's a lot more difficult to implement Medicare for all (for instance) if the government is already running a multi-trillion dollar deficit. LOL, force the liberals to be the adults in the room. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted February 28, 2019 Members Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 12:26 AM, AdamSmith said: There is also that the Republicans’ just-passed tax cuts, unfunded by any offsets, explode the deficit beyond anything seen before. And that every trial of ‘trickle-down’ economics has, to date, yielded nought. Or WORSE than nought. I don't know if trickle down economics works or not but it does seems apparent that business hire more folks during "good" times. Some of the good times include reduced taxes and various incentives for businesses. Hiring lots of folks may not be trickle down but it smacks of same. Both parties i.e. Congress as a whole (as well as administrations) are spending money like a drunken sailor with little to no thought about who will pay for it and when. Deficit thy name is USA. Best regards, RA1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted March 1, 2019 Author Posted March 1, 2019 8 hours ago, RA1 said: I don't know if trickle down economics works or not but it does seems apparent that business hire more folks during "good" times. Some of the good times include reduced taxes and various incentives for businesses. Hiring lots of folks may not be trickle down but it smacks of same. Both parties i.e. Congress as a whole (as well as administrations) are spending money like a drunken sailor with little to no thought about who will pay for it and when. Deficit thy name is USA. Best regards, RA1 Agree fully with your second paragraph. First paragraph traces no logical cause-and-effect that I can discern. Quote
