Guest MonkeySee Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 BANGKOK: -- The Thai Red Cross Aids Research Centre has urged people to undergo a blood test for HIV after being warned over 400,000 Thais probably have the disease without knowing it. "Hundreds of thousands of Thais who are infected with HIV, the virus that causes Aids, are unaware they are infected. This is the reason the virus is still spreading across country," the centre's director Dr Praphan Panuphak said. He was speaking at a public hearing by the Medical Council on ways adolescents can get HIV counselling and testing services. Over 150 participants from health agencies attended the event at the Miracle Grand Convention Hotel in Bangkok. An Aids expert explained that Acquired Immune DefiCiency Syndrome (Aids) was a set of symptoms and infections caused by damage to the immune system caused by the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). The condition progressively reduced the effectiveness of the immune system and left individuals susceptible to opportunistic infections and tumours. HIV is transmitted through direct contact between blood and a body fluid containing HIV, such as blood, semen, vaginal fluid, pre-seminal fluid or breast milk. Transmission could involve anal, vaginal or oral sex, a blood transfusion, contaminated hypodermic needles, an exchange between mother and baby during pregnancy, childbirth, or breastfeeding, or other exposure to one of the above body fluids. The first case of HIV/Aids was reported in Thailand in 1984 and the incidence of infections has increased steadily. To date 1,115,415 adults have been infected. Of this, some 585,830 people died of Aids while 532,522 adults are suffering from HIV or Aids. Some 12,787 adults and children have reportedly been infected so far this year. The health agency estimated that about 6,800 people per day or five people per minute were infected with HIV all around the world. Of this total, 40 per cent are young adults aged 15-24 years old. The World Health Organisation said last year that over 30.8 million people around the world had infected with HIV, while 2.1 million died during the past year. About 2.5 million new cases of HIV had been reported in 2007. Praphan said the number of new HIV infections could be cut to 60 per cent of current levels if people tested themselves for HIV and got antiviral drugs early to fight their infection, before showing symptoms or signs of severe immune deficiency. After working with HIV patients more than 20 years he would like to see HIV tests become a common practice in Thai society and for members of the public should drop the stigma about people with HIV and end compulsory HIV tests for employees and job applicants. However, all HIV test results must be kept confidential. PATH organisation program adviser Dr Wachara Pumpradit said health agencies should provide HIV testing and counselling which was proper and friendly for teenagers so it is easy for them to access the treatment and prevention. Kiratika Pangsad, from the Family Network Foundation, said parents should be apart of HIV prevention and provide proper knowledge and counselling to help their children avoid getting the deadly virus. "We found that most parents lack understanding about the HIV infection and don't know how to tell their kids about safe sex. We want to encourage them to open their minds and learn more about sex education, as they can talk with their children [and warn them about the disease]," she said. -- The Nation 2008-12-18 Quote
Guest Steve1903 Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 You'd have to be more than a bit stupid to take it on trust that any boy you take from a club/beach or whatever is HIV-. Covered up is really the only way to play. Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted December 29, 2008 Posted December 29, 2008 You'd have to be more than a bit stupid to take it on trust that any boy you take from a club/beach or whatever is HIV-. Covered up is really the only way to play. Covering up is the only way to play, but I still can not bring myself to suck a latex condom! Quote
Guest Steve1903 Posted December 29, 2008 Posted December 29, 2008 Well strictly speaking I was really only thinking in terms of fucking. So call me silly if you like but when it comes to oral its always uncovered for me. Quote
Guest hans030 Posted December 29, 2008 Posted December 29, 2008 Well strictly speaking I was really only thinking in terms of fucking. So call me silly if you like but when it comes to oral its always uncovered for me. Is there any risk then for HIV with oral sex? Only very very very very very little maybe. Suck latex is not a pleasure, without it is! Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 Is there any risk then for HIV with oral sex? Only very very very very very little maybe. Suck latex is not a pleasure, without it is! There is a risk I am told, but small. If you have bleeding gums or a sore in your mouth, then the chances are greater. I had a guy last week that insisted on giving me head with a condom. I did not think it would be enjoyable, but it really wasn't bad. I guess he enjoyed the taste of latex. Quote
Guest slackersam Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 It's very, very difficult to get AIDS through blow jobs. What they say is don't brush your teeth for 30 minutes both before and after sucking cock. Quote
Guest hans030 Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 It's very, very difficult to get AIDS through blow jobs. What they say is don't brush your teeth for 30 minutes both before and after sucking cock. what can you to lower the risks is my question. Listerine? Quote
Guest slackersam Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Just accept 30 minutes of cock breath Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 what can you to lower the risks is my question. Listerine? I am not sure what the experts say about mouthwash. I guess it could not hurt. What about swallowing a load? Sounds like risky business to me, but maybe the stomach acids can kill any bug? Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 I have never heard of anyone contacting HIV who only had oral sex. Has anyone else? Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 It's very, very difficult to get AIDS through blow jobs. What they say is don't brush your teeth for 30 minutes both before and after sucking cock. My sister is a doctor in charge of community health for a major city. She has always told me that you'd need massive amounts of the virus in your mouth plus a cut or an abrasion on your tongue or gum to become infected. Swallowing cum is a whole different ball game as the virus can easily transfer through your stomach lining - probably long before the stomach acids get it. After all, any pill that you swallow is quickly absorbed through the stomach lining no matter what you have just eaten. We also have to be aware that with such a cut or abrasion, there is also a chance, admittedly very, very slight, of picking up the virus from kissing, as it is also carried in saliva. My worry on reading some of the earlier posts is that the facts of transmission are no longer as well known amongst gay men now as they were, say, 10 years ago. This surely argues in favour of a major new round of public health initiatives. I certainly think there should be far more warnings to the younger generation, many of whom now seem to indulge with considerable abandon in unprotected sex in all the new saunas springing up all over the country. Quote
Guest GaySacGuy Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 what can you to lower the risks is my question. Listerine? The best way to lower the risk is to suck nearly to orgasm, and then remove the cock from your mouth. It is the exchange of fluids that is the problem, and while some fluids are passed, not the large amount that cums with orgasm. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 The best way to lower the risk is to suck nearly to orgasm In theory, yes, but what happens when the one to whom you are giving pleasure has loads of precum flowing in to your mouth over a reasonable period of time? Quote
Gaybutton Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Gentlemen, let us not forget that HIV is not the only sexually transmitted disease. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Gentlemen, let us not forget that HIV is not the only sexually transmitted disease. .And some are more easily contracted than HIV. Quote
Guest slackersam Posted January 2, 2009 Posted January 2, 2009 Yeah, but the clap is easily treatable. And something like 75 percent of the population has HPV, so I'm not really going to worry about it. Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted January 2, 2009 Posted January 2, 2009 It's very, very difficult to get AIDS through blow jobs. What they say is don't brush your teeth for 30 minutes both before and after sucking cock. I understand about not brushing your teeth before sucking, because the toothbrush may cause small abrasions. I do not understand why you would refrain brushing your teeth after sucking? Quote
Bob Posted January 2, 2009 Posted January 2, 2009 I understand about not brushing your teeth before sucking, because the toothbrush may cause small abrasions. I do not understand why you would refrain brushing your teeth after sucking? Think about it.....brushing your teeth involves minor abrasions and tears to your gums, thus leaving an opening for viruses present. Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Think about it.....brushing your teeth involves minor abrasions and tears to your gums, thus leaving an opening for viruses present. Are you saying once the act is complete, the virus is just hanging around in your mouth looking for an opening? Does not make sense to me. Please explain. Quote
KhorTose Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Are you saying once the act is complete, the virus is just hanging around in your mouth looking for an opening? Does not make sense to me. Please explain. Nor to me. I've always been told HIV cannot live more then seconds outside the body. To me, the mouth is outside, and full of a mild acid. I can't believe it would hurt to brush afterwards. Quote
Bob Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Are you saying once the act is complete, the virus is just hanging around in your mouth looking for an opening? Does not make sense to me. Please explain. In a sense, yes. Most (if not all?) viruses enter through the bloodstream and an open cut is an open invitation for the virus. I've too read as Khortose said that the HIV virus doesn't live long outside the body although I'd guess it'd live longer in your mouth (a warm and moist place) than it would elsewhere. However long it lives, you don't want it to come into contact with your bloodstream. I've always understood that the cold virus enters our bodies through cracked nasal/sinus cavaties (bloodsource) so, while it may be difficult for the HIV virus to enter our bodies through our mouths, it would seem logical that you'd increase the risk if you had or created an open sore in your mouth. Maybe reading this PDF file from the CDC will help: Oral Sex & HIV Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 I've always understood that the cold virus enters our bodies through cracked nasal/sinus cavaties (bloodsource) so, while it may be difficult for the HIV virus to enter our bodies through our mouths, it would seem logical that you'd increase the risk if you had or created an open sore in your mouth. Bob, you are talking about two completely different viruses. HIV virus is transmitted via direct blood source, as you say, and the cold and flu viruses do not. You can get a cold by kissing someone whereas HIV, you cannot. Maybe reading this PDF file from the CDC will help: Oral Sex & HIV Interesting read, but not much help. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 The HIV virus is a fragile virus and dies when it is exposed to air. Is everyone aware that venereal warts can be contracted even with the use of a condom? Merely touching a venereal wart and you can contract the virus that causes them. They can be treated, but Hepatitis C is not so easily treated and is easily contracted. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 This is a good site for information about HIV. http://www.sfaf.org/aids101/transmission.html Here is one for Hepatitis C www.mayoclinic.com/health/hepatitis-c/DS00097 Quote
