TotallyOz Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 I am an avid reader. I fell in love with reading The Hobbit when I was a young lad. I still love reading. I saw this article in The Atlantic and it made me happy to know that the new generation is out reading my generation. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/millennials-are-out-reading-older-generations/379934/ Latbear4blk, AdamSmith, numerito and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Guest FunJockNYC Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 this is great news, there is also seems to be a resurgence in reading actual books vs tablets of kindles Quote
Members BigK Posted December 9, 2018 Members Posted December 9, 2018 I still like regular books. I've got a catalog of books on kindle since Amazon has 1 free book download per month but I haven't found one that kept my interest. Quote
TotallyOz Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, BigK said: I still like regular books. I've got a catalog of books on kindle since Amazon has 1 free book download per month but I haven't found one that kept my interest. I love reading regular books. I started buying on Kindle when I was traveling so much as I needed to have them portable. But, now that I am more stationary, I tend to buy paper copies as I love the feel, touch and smell of a book. I also like adding a bookmark or folding the page when I stop. I like my books to be used and loved! paulsf, AdamSmith and numerito 2 1 Quote
Members MsGuy Posted December 9, 2018 Members Posted December 9, 2018 It's a hipster thing. They are so cool they were into paper books before reading them was cool. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members boiworship Posted December 9, 2018 Members Posted December 9, 2018 I hate E-books. AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 11 hours ago, boiworship said: I hate E-books. There seems to be some considerable research that you don't retain nearly as well from digital as from print. Tartegogo 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 10, 2018 Members Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, AdamSmith said: There seems to be some considerable research that you don't retain nearly as well from digital as from print. I didn’t know that, but I am not surprised. As another side effect, I often find that I don’t actually know the title of the ebook I am currently reading. That would never happen with a paper book. That is because I barely ever see the cover of an e-book, I open my kindle and it is always straight to the last page I was reading. So I don’t see the title often enough to memorise it. MsGuy and AdamSmith 2 Quote
Members RA1 Posted December 10, 2018 Members Posted December 10, 2018 I am not favorably impressed. Having a large percentage of a group having read a book last year is nothing. How many did you read last week is more to the point. Readers and you know who you are, can hardly go a week without reading at least one book. Somebody has to account for killing all those trees. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, RA1 said: I am not favorably impressed. Having a large percentage of a group having read a book last year is nothing. How many did you read last week is more to the point. Readers and you know who you are, can hardly go a week without reading at least one book. Somebody has to account for killing all those trees. Best regards, RA1 Dear God, do you really believe that the digital age of reading is really a conspiracy for the killing all of the trees? IIRC, the last time I was in a cockpit, it was all digital from wheels-up, to wheels down, and those involved were tired and with little thanks for suffering with us to your destination. The feel of paper on your fingertips turning a page will never be replaced nor replicated by the digital age of tapping or touching a screen to the next page of the story, but it does without question bring stories into the lives of thousands which would’ve never read/heard them before if it hadn’t been for the digital page or voice of that page had it never happened. IIRC, The last cockpit and crew I visited when flying was completely reliant upon digital. Hopefully the crew was young/old enough and retained what to do to learn prior to that on paper but as we get older and wiser we know that navigation and control of any aircraft is only as safe as those who flew it before they relied on digital knowledge. When digital nativation of airliners became commonplace - were you then calling for airlines and navigators to save the Forest? Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Larstrup said: Dear God, do you really believe that the digital age of reading is really a conspiracy for the killing all of the trees? IIRC, the last time I was in a cockpit, it was all digital from wheels-up, to wheels down, and those involved were tired and with little thanks for suffering with us to your destination. The feel of paper on your fingertips turning a page will never be replaced nor replicated by the digital age of tapping or touching a screen to the next page of the story, but it does without question bring stories into the lives of thousands which would’ve never read/heard them before if it hadn’t been for the digital page or voice of that page had it never happened. IIRC, The last cockpit and crew I visited when flying was completely reliant upon digital. Hopefully the crew was young/old enough and retained what to do to learn prior to that on paper but as we get older and wiser we know that navigation and control of any aircraft is only as safe as those who flew it before they relied on digital knowledge. When digital nativation of airliners became commonplace - were you then calling for airlines and navigators to save the Forest? You know I love you. But there is a thing called the physical paper engineering notebook, that is still infinitely better than the digital shit. The latter still don't quite work. Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, AdamSmith said: You know I love you. But there is a thing called the physical paper engineering notebook, that is still infinitely better than the digital shit. it still don't work. Please spare me the “You know I love you but”....bullshit. You don’t love anyone here anymore than you love yourself, let alone know me to love me. You certainly don’t love me. And I suspect that too, is problematic when you claim to do so. But you do you - and I’ll do me. Thanks. Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, Larstrup said: Please spare me the “You know I love you but”....bullshit. You don’t love anyone here anymore than you love yourself, let alone know me to love me. You certainly don’t love me. And I suspect that too, is problematic when you claim to do so. But you do you - and I’ll do me. Thanks. Ok i do But whatever Quote
Members RA1 Posted December 11, 2018 Members Posted December 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Larstrup said: Dear God, do you really believe that the digital age of reading is really a conspiracy for the killing all of the trees? IIRC, the last time I was in a cockpit, it was all digital from wheels-up, to wheels down, and those involved were tired and with little thanks for suffering with us to your destination. The feel of paper on your fingertips turning a page will never be replaced nor replicated by the digital age of tapping or touching a screen to the next page of the story, but it does without question bring stories into the lives of thousands which would’ve never read/heard them before if it hadn’t been for the digital page or voice of that page had it never happened. IIRC, The last cockpit and crew I visited when flying was completely reliant upon digital. Hopefully the crew was young/old enough and retained what to do to learn prior to that on paper but as we get older and wiser we know that navigation and control of any aircraft is only as safe as those who flew it before they relied on digital knowledge. When digital nativation of airliners became commonplace - were you then calling for airlines and navigators to save the Forest? The tree killing line was strictly tongue in cheek. Remember, trees are a renewable resource, although I think we are using them quicker than replacing them. I am very much in tune with the digital age as regards cockpits. The last airplane I flew/managed had every thing any airliner has and more. I only carry one piece of paper with me in the cockpit and that is to take notes as necessary. However, I also learned without all this stuff and can safely navigate as well as fly without it. If the GPS signals and VHF radios were interrupted, I fear there would be negative consequences in abundance. Luckily these occurrences are rare but not non-existent. For instance the Asiana 777 landing short at SFO. That was largely caused by over reliance on digital instruments/systems. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, RA1 said: For instance the Asiana 777 landing short at SFO. That was largely caused by over reliance on digital instruments/systems. Best regards, RA1 Actually that was a Korean-cultural--specific thing where junior cockpit personel were not 'allowed' to call out obvious handling errors to 'senior' officers. Quote
Members RA1 Posted December 11, 2018 Members Posted December 11, 2018 6 hours ago, AdamSmith said: Actually that was a Korean-cultural--specific thing where junior cockpit personel were not 'allowed' to call out obvious handling errors to 'senior' officers. That indeed was part of the problem. But the fact that the ILS was inop that day (a perfectly beautiful weather day) allowed the crew flying to not set up for the "digital" approach as they always anticipated. They obviously did not handle the VFR good weather approach which any "old" private pilot could have handled (in a plane legal for him or her to fly). You are correct in that a junior crew member was disregarded during his warnings about too low and too slow. That indeed was a "cultural" error. However a captain current on stick and rudder would not have needed those warnings all else being equal. There is usually more than one identifiable reason for a crash or incident. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 Ebooks are good for some people. My partner travels a lot and it's easier for them to have an e-reader than to travel with like a dozen books. Me, I'm a hombebody, so I can read regular books. But in the end it's all the same. Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 I just did a loose tally. I own about 4800 books. Eight hundred of them are in my bedroom, the rest in boxes in the basement. I've read about 20% of the pages in them, overall. The remaining pages are a reason to live! (Besides beautiful escorts. ) RA1 and lookin 2 Quote
Members RA1 Posted December 16, 2018 Members Posted December 16, 2018 Do you skip 4 out of 5 words as you go or just how do you accomplish this? Read one page and skip the next 4? According to me, you have about 1600 weeks X .8 to live. That is at 3 per week. Readers are much alike and not so much all the others. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, RA1 said: Do you skip 4 out of 5 words as you go or just how do you accomplish this? Read one page and skip the next 4? I lack the patience to read cover to cover. Usually I glance over the TOC, then either directedly or randomly open to some middle page and start to read. And, jumping around, see where it goes from there. Much more interesting -- and quick, me being very lazy -- way to see what the author is up to, and the book is about. Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 http://archive.amerisurv.com/PDF/TheAmericanSurveyor_Jenkins-ScanningDiscovery_November05.pdf Quote
Members Pete1111 Posted April 20, 2019 Members Posted April 20, 2019 On 12/8/2018 at 7:37 AM, TotallyOz said: I am an avid reader. I fell in love with reading The Hobbit when I was a young lad. I still love reading. I saw this article in The Atlantic and it made me happy to know that the new generation is out reading my generation. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/millennials-are-out-reading-older-generations/379934/ This is surprising and good news. In the age of smartphones I wondered about the fate of books. Are there any threads in the Forum on books and literature? Quote