TotallyOz Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I don't think I have experienced a time in my lifetime where the statement "words matter" is so relevant. They have always mattered but with the current President, they have become more divisive and more important. I realize he does not know this or does not care, but they are important. In Turkey, the denials from the Saudi government over the murder of a US resident journalist were important. The denials kept coming and the lies kept coming. The Saudi people believed their government until this. Will this change their minds? The MeToo movement has taught us one thing for sure, that words matter. What you say, how you say it and where you say it is relevant. When I grew up, the saying that "sticks and stones may break your bones but words may never hurt you" was repeated often. However, somewhere along the way, this changed. Or, was it always the same? Words do matter. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Yep. Which is why the GOP is trying to make them not matter. Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted October 27, 2018 Members Posted October 27, 2018 IMO, I have always thought words matter. I learned that lesson very early in life, and I assumed everyone learned the same lesson. Since Trump does not read (unless his name is mentioned numerous times), it's easy to see why he failed. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Hard to figure out though why tens of millions of his followers feel the same way. Quote
Members RA1 Posted October 29, 2018 Members Posted October 29, 2018 I have always thought that words matter. I also think Trump definitely thinks words matter and, in fact. depends upon same. However, I learned a long time ago that the same words do not matter the same to different people. I once delivered an aircraft to a college professor in NC. He accepted the aircraft as is, where is (after inspection). Later he decided that a radio was not working properly. I took the position that the aircraft was delivered and accepted. He continued to claim the radio should work. After going back and forth about this a few times it dawned on me that we were arguing about two different things. He was offered a couple hundred dollars which he accepted and was thereafter happy. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith and MsGuy 2 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted October 29, 2018 Members Posted October 29, 2018 The British have a system where members of the cabinet are not allowed to lie to parliament or the public, to deceive them into making a decision that helps the prime minister’s purposes That sort of laws could be implemented everywhere. AdamSmith 1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 That would be a very good thing in America. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted October 30, 2018 Members Posted October 30, 2018 How do they determine that the cabinet members's are lying? Here we know if the office holder's lips are moving, they are lying. Best regards, RA1 MsGuy and AdamSmith 1 1 Quote
Members MsGuy Posted October 31, 2018 Members Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/29/2018 at 10:45 AM, Tartegogo said: The British have a system where members of the cabinet are not allowed to lie to parliament or the public, to deceive them into making a decision that helps the prime minister’s purposes That sort of laws could be implemented everywhere. Perhaps Shakespeare had this very system in mind when he wrote: "But to my mind, though I am native here And to the manner born, it is a custom More honored in the breach than in the observance." AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted November 1, 2018 Members Posted November 1, 2018 One problem is the pols think it is "to the manor born". Best regards, RA1 MsGuy 1 Quote
Members MsGuy Posted November 1, 2018 Members Posted November 1, 2018 Only those addicted to BBC imports on public TV. AdamSmith 1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 That guy on the left - is he from Narcos? Quote