Members asdsrfr Posted October 28, 2018 Members Posted October 28, 2018 I was in a gay club in southern California and I met a gay Brazilian that lives here who is a strong passionate supporter of Bolsonaro. His take was that the parties in power while paying lip service to gays had also been corrupt and thieves. He also said that anti-gay violence in Brazil is the highest rate in the world(not sure if this is true or not)--and that Bolsonaro would finally do something about the violence and crime for everyone in Brazil. He also said that since making it into the runoff Bolsonaro had moderated some of his rhetoric(sounds like a politician to me..). His final comment was that Trump is much worse than Bolsonaro(Although I really don't like Trump I disagree). Bottom line the whole picture is complex and I do not think Brazil was left with good choices. Whoever gets elected president the garotos will be no less gorgeous! Quote
Members Lucky Posted October 28, 2018 Members Posted October 28, 2018 Speaking of anti-gay violence in Brazil, the Washington Post has an article on that very subject: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/more-than-fear-brazils-lgbt-community-dreads-looming-bolsonaro-presidency/2018/10/26/c9e7ac26-d890-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html?utm_term=.a7d9f46d0b32 Quote
Members docbr Posted October 28, 2018 Members Posted October 28, 2018 Brazilians were left with no choice in this election... Bolsonaro made a great use of social media for many years to create a network of supporters to propagate his ideas of anti-socialism and fight against crime and corruption (popular with the low middle classes) alongside with a racial and gender hate speech that echoed within the conservative sectors of society who were feeling threatened by the ascending “C classes”... he appealed to the poor and the rich that way. Haddad on the other side, member of a great criminal organization, that is the PT (partido dos trabalhadores) manipulated the election helding Lula (almost a mythical figure here) as the candidate until almost the first turn of the election and now in basking on the fear about the hate speech of Bolsonaro, claiming people to unite to “defend democracy”. Little is know that PT had the chance to support the third place candidate Ciro Gomes as he was the left wing politician with more chances of winning the election and avoid this polarization and risk a neofascist politician like Bolsonaro win the election, but preferred to risk everything for power. PopeFrancis and likeohmygod 2 Quote
Members ferrar Posted October 28, 2018 Members Posted October 28, 2018 8 hours ago, docbr said: Little is know that PT had the chance to support the third place candidate Ciro Gomes as he was the left wing politician with more chances of winning the election and avoid this polarization and risk a neofascist politician like Bolsonaro win the election, but preferred to risk everything for power. Very true. The Workers Party has only itself, and Lula's megalomaniacy, to thank, for the victory of Bolsonaro. And Ciro said today that he would never support the PT, so the schism from within the Left looks definitive. Quote
