Members likeohmygod Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 If he doesn't die after being stabbed, he will 100% win the elections. If he survives the stabbing will make him a martyr. Bad news for saunas (even if i don't know if there will be consequences) and gay people in general. Quote
Members trencherman Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 This is precisely why Charles de Gaulle's characterization of Brazil as not a serious country has so much truth in it. likeohmygod 1 Quote
Members Walker Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 The news report says the stabbing is not life threatening. Quote
Members tassojunior Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, Walker said: The news report says the stabbing is not life threatening. Unless he's cared for in a Brazilian hospital. Come to think of it, Brazilian hospitals have plenty of experience with stab wounds. floridarob and Walker 2 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 8 hours ago, likeohmygod said: If he doesn't die after being stabbed, he will 100% win the elections. If he survives the stabbing will make him a martyr. Bad news for saunas (even if i don't know if there will be consequences) and gay people in general. I just read that he dropped out of the race for president - SolaceSoul 1 Quote
Members Latbear4blk Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 7 hours ago, trencherman said: This is precisely why Charles de Gaulle's characterization of Brazil as not a serious country has so much truth in it. Sure. I wonder what he would say about the USA. A very serious country, with a very representative president. floridarob and SolaceSoul 2 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 7, 2018 Members Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, mvan1 said: I just read that he dropped out of the race for president - After his stabbing injuries were deemed no longer life threatening, Bolsonaro announced that he will stop active campaigning but that he hopes his followers will keep the campaign going for him. Some of the polls show him just behind Lula - The "nick name" for this character is "Brazil's Trump" - gads, what a disgusting thought to have another Trump in a place I like, especially in Brazil. He is more of a racist than Trump and he hates gays also. Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 8, 2018 Members Posted September 8, 2018 There are more updated reports about this hateful Trump like bigot. Apparently, he lost about 40% of his blood from the stabbing. The stabbing might get him sympathy from supporters. Many will vote just because he was attacked. If anyone is interested in reading a little about this bigot, here is the latest: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-45451473 Quote
Members likeohmygod Posted September 8, 2018 Author Members Posted September 8, 2018 He will get the vote from most of the undecided after the stabbing. Not sure about what he will do when he will become president....saunas survived even to dictatorship so... Quote
Tomcal Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 I don't think it will affect the saunas! remember everything in Brazil is corrupt and the police are paid by every business owner protection money, in the case of the saunas they pay depending on the size, from $400. to $750. a week and in the case of Rio there are two different police units paid off the regular patrols and the type of SVU units. As long as they keep paying they will be fine! Quote
Members Latbear4blk Posted September 8, 2018 Members Posted September 8, 2018 C'mon. Going after saunas in Brazil is like going after Christian Churches or gun owners in the USA. It is not going to happen. Riobard 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted September 8, 2018 Members Posted September 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Tomcal said: I don't think it will affect the saunas! remember everything in Brazil is corrupt and the police are paid by every business owner protection money, in the case of the saunas they pay depending on the size, from $400. to $750. a week and in the case of Rio there are two different police units paid off the regular patrols and the type of SVU units. As long as they keep paying they will be fine! Since it is essentially our cash trickling down into those pockets I think we deserve a token annual meet-greet-and-blow-meat mutual appreciation day at those very pockets in the nearby Pedro Américo precinct! Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 9, 2018 Members Posted September 9, 2018 18 hours ago, likeohmygod said: He will get the vote from most of the undecided after the stabbing. Not sure about what he will do when he will become president....saunas survived even to dictatorship so... The news reports keep changing by the hour. In the below sited article, the bigot is shown sitting up in his hospital room recovering from the stabbing he got from a protestor. The latest reports are that the bigot is now ahead of anyone in the presidential race in Brazil. Not a pretty picture for Brazil, if this hateful bigot wins the election. He lies incessantly, is a racist and he hates gays - What a coincidence - that sounds like Trump - Here is the latest on the bigot: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/08/645882787/brazilian-candidate-recovering-from-stabbing-may-be-gaining-an-advantage?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter floridarob 1 Quote
Members Walker Posted September 9, 2018 Members Posted September 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Riobard said: Since it is essentially our cash trickling down into those pockets I think we deserve a token annual meet-greet-and-blow-meat mutual appreciation day at those very pockets in the nearby Pedro Américo precinct! Absolutely. Each of us deserves a session with the police. Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 9, 2018 Members Posted September 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, Walker said: Absolutely. Each of us deserves a session with the police. Is this the kind of session with the police you mean? Enlarge the newspaper headline. You will see clients and garotos standing against a wall in a gay sauna that was raided by the Sao Paulo police. Although rare, it does happen - The police allowed the clients and garotos to keep their towel around them. In the meantime, they were told to stand against the sauna wall while a newspaper photographer took their photo for the newspaper and for the article that was written about the raid. No one was arrested. Only harassed. The sauna with garotos, that had been open many years, closed shortly after the raid. The sauna never reopened. It was one of the best saunas in Sao Paulo. sanddunes 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted September 9, 2018 Members Posted September 9, 2018 A gay establishment? With floor tiles and tablecloths clashing like that!? sanddunes 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 9, 2018 Members Posted September 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, Riobard said: A gay establishment? With floor tiles and tablecloths clashing like that!? You lost me with your comment. The partial photo you posted is of a portion of the former dining room/restaurant/bar of the former sauna. Floor "tiles" were cheap linoleum and the table clothes were plastic. The cruising area was on a different floor and a different area of the sauna. The police herded all clients and garotos into that room where the photo was taken. The sauna was rather run down. Quote
Members Walker Posted September 9, 2018 Members Posted September 9, 2018 2 hours ago, mvan1 said: Is this the kind of session with the police you mean? More positive thinking please. At least I deserve a sexy session with a hunky Brazilian cop. Just be happy and enjoy Brazil. Quote
Members mvan1 Posted September 12, 2018 Members Posted September 12, 2018 Uh, oh! It looks like the Trump like candidate (bigot) might win the presidential race - Check out this article in today's news: https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/polls-show-right-wing-presidential-candidate-still-ahead-in-brazil/ Quote
Members likeohmygod Posted September 12, 2018 Author Members Posted September 12, 2018 Everything can happen and pools in this election especially for the first round do have some problems when you want to check for the trend. https://g1.globo.com/politica/eleicoes/2018/noticia/2018/09/10/pesquisa-datafolha-bolsonaro-24-ciro-13-marina-11-alckmin-10-haddad-9.ghtml Datafolha (Globo) gives Bolsonaro nearly stable during the 2nd round, while Haddad is increasing his percentage while Lula chances of running are approaching the zero. This makes really hard to compare the most recent pools with the old ones, and some are overestimating the stabbing effect. Especially if you consider that a second round win by Bolsonaro, is only forecasted when competing againsta Haddad. The first round will be won by Bolsonaro without doubts. It all depends on who will reach the 2nd place. Right now it's a tie between Haddad (Lula), Alckmin and Silva. Haddad is shown behind but as i said, it's extremely hard to forecast his 1st round result due to his fate being tied to what happens to Lula. sanddunes 1 Quote
Tomcal Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 It is amazing to me how many of the sauna guys support Bolsonaro! Many on their FB page and Instantgram support him and promote his candidacy!! mvan1 and SolaceSoul 1 1 Quote
Members likeohmygod Posted September 17, 2018 Author Members Posted September 17, 2018 Bolsonaro here in Rio is HUGELY popular due to the extremely high crime rate. Especially between young people. Quote
Members wncdemcub Posted September 18, 2018 Members Posted September 18, 2018 13 hours ago, Tomcal said: It is amazing to me how many of the sauna guys support Bolsonaro! Many on their FB page and Instantgram support him and promote his candidacy!! They could be doing that because thats what their family wants and then voting against him in the voting booth. Possible example of "he doth protest too much" Quote
Tomcal Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, wncdemcub said: They could be doing that because thats what their family wants and then voting against him in the voting booth. Possible example of "he doth protest too much" i would agree but they are posting long discussions back and forth and everyone of them seem to be supporting Bolsonaro, and they genuinely seem to support him and i don’t know why? Quote
Members wncdemcub Posted September 18, 2018 Members Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tomcal said: i would agree but they are posting long discussions back and forth and everyone of them seem to be supporting Bolsonaro, and they genuinely seem to support him and i don’t know why? Well as we have discussed most garatos are in it for the money. If someone promised them a better life, one where they wouldnt have to hustle and still make a good living for their families, they would take it. Its a pipe dream but look at trump voters. Edited September 18, 2018 by wncdemcub grammar SolaceSoul and Tomcal 2 Quote
