Questions for a Trip to Brazil Fall 2018

[HiThereAll]

Questions for a Trip to Brazil Fall 2018

I know various members have provided thoughts in different postings, but not always cohesive nor in agreement.

Is it too cold for the beach now?

Is it easy to meet new “friends” at the beach, and is it too dangerous to trust such new friends wherever you go to play?

At saunas, seems like most programmas are around 100 R$. Is 150R$ reasonable if both of us have a happy ending and maybe have some kink too?

For Brazil, do folks use sex hotels rather than pay for play saunas? Are they much more expensive than the costs of a sauna? Maybe less of a bother than to have the boy at a hotel and less of a risk of theft too.

I did see posting regarding the Atlantico Hotel and being able to have guests there.

If you are really horny, do you find escorts on the grindr, adam4adam, scruff, etc phone apps? Other apps to use?

Saw some website listings like rentmen.com too. Given the postings about how late the boys sometimes arrive, if they arrive, are the saunas usually a better choice?

 

I saw postings for a few porn theatres in Cinelandia and Centro. They also noted a lack of quality. Are these mostly for horny local guys and not so much the paid boys?

Many postings on the saunas. In Europe saunas tend to get busy around 1500-2000 hrs. Is this also true in Brazil, as no one seems to mention late action? Which days or nights are best for Manhattan, Meio Mundo (?Monday), 117, and Pointe? Some varied opinions perhaps due age of the posts. Are there other saunas, perhaps more geared for locals or those of us who speak some Portuguese?

Is Le Boy a sauna, a disco, or both? If it has a sauna now, is it a regular sauna or a pay for play sauna (?both)?

Saw postings about the scene, or lack thereof, at Corujina. Are there other “hangouts”?

 

Postings about afternoon drink places for Ipanema seemed near the Hotel Vermont. Are there others that are good to make new friends (normal or paid)?

Late night club scene seems to vary, so maybe have to check in the days just before the trip. Lapa seems to be a good place on Friday and Saturday night for regular fun and drinking, based on postings elsewhere. Any other thoughts?

Found lots of info elsewhere for daytime trips and for local cities less than a day away by bus. But not much info for the gay scenes in smaller places like Parati, Buzios, Tiradentes, and Belo Horizonte. Seems like most folks not on a business trip are not keen on Sao Paolo. Iguassu might be too far for a brief trip.

For food, lots of postings elsewhere about the fruit, steak places, and the like. Any particularly good ones for a gay clientele?

 

[Riobard]

Welcome ... you are implicitly requesting a cohesive synthesis of information. That is a first. I think you will find, therefore, that some members will step up and reiterate answers to the many familiar questions you pose. I anticipate seeing agreement heretofore not witnessed. Claims to penultimate expertise will give way to flexible collaboration, a digital gay ghetto transformed, the likes of which nobody has ever seen. 

[Tomcal]

2 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

Is it too cold for the beach now?

No, Remember Rio has a rainforest around it! (Tijunca) Even during August the coolest month there are days that are definitely beach days!

2 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

Is Le Boy a sauna, a disco, or both? If it has a sauna now, is it a regular sauna or a pay for play sauna (?both)?

It has been closed over a year!

2 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

Is it easy to meet new “friends” at the beach, and is it too dangerous to trust such new friends wherever you go to play?

Don’t do it! Repeat Dont do it!  i could give two different examples of people who didn’t listen to my advise and were very sorry! One was a muscular couple who thought they were too smart and big and tough to have any issues....they weren’t !!  look up Boa Noite Cinderella!

On your first trip stick to the saunas! (and your second and third trips!)

most of your questions can be answered by reading the forum!

[Badboy81]

3 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

Is it too cold for the beach now?

The weather was great on Thursday, Friday and Saturday and is now raining all day on Sunday...

Now is pretty much Rios spring since the middle of summer will be December....check the weather forecast for the dates you are looking to travel in the fall....its still summer in the US...

[Badboy81]

3 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

Is it easy to meet new “friends” at the beach, and is it too dangerous to trust such new friends wherever you go to play?

Why would you want to meet "friends" on the beach...serious question...

Unless you speak Portuguese AND/OR hot, most guys wont be interested in talking to you unless they are tourists as well...is that what you are seeking...

"Friends" wont be made on the beach but can be made off Grindr and definitely in the saunas and then you can take them to the beach....

Most of the local Cariocas are not going to be seeking friendships with some older guy from somewhere else on the beach....It doesnt work like that here...

Again, if you speak Portuguese And/Or very attractive, you may be able to catch the attention of some of the guy Cariocas on the beach....

[Badboy81]

3 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

Questions for a Trip to Brazil Fall 2018

I know various members have provided thoughts in different postings, but not always cohesive nor in agreement.

Is it too cold for the beach now?

Is it easy to meet new “friends” at the beach, and is it too dangerous to trust such new friends wherever you go to play?

At saunas, seems like most programmas are around 100 R$. Is 150R$ reasonable if both of us have a happy ending and maybe have some kink too?

For Brazil, do folks use sex hotels rather than pay for play saunas? Are they much more expensive than the costs of a sauna? Maybe less of a bother than to have the boy at a hotel and less of a risk of theft too.

I did see posting regarding the Atlantico Hotel and being able to have guests there.

If you are really horny, do you find escorts on the grindr, adam4adam, scruff, etc phone apps? Other apps to use?

Saw some website listings like rentmen.com too. Given the postings about how late the boys sometimes arrive, if they arrive, are the saunas usually a better choice?

 

I saw postings for a few porn theatres in Cinelandia and Centro. They also noted a lack of quality. Are these mostly for horny local guys and not so much the paid boys?

Many postings on the saunas. In Europe saunas tend to get busy around 1500-2000 hrs. Is this also true in Brazil, as no one seems to mention late action? Which days or nights are best for Manhattan, Meio Mundo (?Monday), 117, and Pointe? Some varied opinions perhaps due age of the posts. Are there other saunas, perhaps more geared for locals or those of us who speak some Portuguese?

Is Le Boy a sauna, a disco, or both? If it has a sauna now, is it a regular sauna or a pay for play sauna (?both)?

Saw postings about the scene, or lack thereof, at Corujina. Are there other “hangouts”?

 

Postings about afternoon drink places for Ipanema seemed near the Hotel Vermont. Are there others that are good to make new friends (normal or paid)?

Late night club scene seems to vary, so maybe have to check in the days just before the trip. Lapa seems to be a good place on Friday and Saturday night for regular fun and drinking, based on postings elsewhere. Any other thoughts?

Found lots of info elsewhere for daytime trips and for local cities less than a day away by bus. But not much info for the gay scenes in smaller places like Parati, Buzios, Tiradentes, and Belo Horizonte. Seems like most folks not on a business trip are not keen on Sao Paolo. Iguassu might be too far for a brief trip.

For food, lots of postings elsewhere about the fruit, steak places, and the like. Any particularly good ones for a gay clientele?

 

It was easier for me to quote the entire thing versus going off each question....I would advise you do some research and definitely think with your BIG head and not your little head based on the questions you have asked....read, read, and read some more since most of what you have asked has been answered over and over and over again....

Kink is not widely known here so you would need to work that out with whoever you decide to hire and they will give you the rate they are comfortable with...I would advise you get a clear understanding before you start doing whatever said kink is so that the price does not change...Going rate has and has been about 100R...give or take who the guy is and what he wants to charge you....

Why pay for a hotel just for sex when you can do that in the sauna...?  And avoid any theft or unpleasant situations...

There are sex hotels here in Rio that you can use, that is totally up to you....

There are escorts on all sites you named who will be considerably more expensive than sauna boys....I wouldnt suggest using apps if you are not familiar with Brazil and the who escort culture here...you could get yourself hurt, robbed or just swindled out of a bunch of money...basing this on your questions

Saunas are always a better choice for a newbie since they are safe, monitored and the owners/workers will make sure the boys treat the patrons well...

Rio is not like LA or NY where you can find "street trade"...there are places where you can find a random guy for sex but why when the saunas have a buffet for you to select from the safer conditions...again, read some of the stories of guys who decided to try seedy places in Rio...

Best dates and times have been outlined so many times, figure it out..

LeBoy is long gone....try reading some of the dates from 2018 and 2017 

"Friends"...unless you are spending money, none of the boys will be your friends....if you are looking for other guys like you, try stating your dates you will be in Rio and asking who will also be in town and would be interested in meeting up with you...

Lapa or the beach are great places for drinks and food and seeing hot guys on Friday and Saturday...there is a gay bar in Ipanema, the name has been said on here but I am not sure if it is still open, it used to be right across from Galitos and down from the gay beach portion in Ipanema...somebody will confirm 

Both Copa and Ipanema are very gay friendly and the restaurants wont care if you come in weather a gay flag as long as you spend money...

Rio does not have a gay neighborhood...the closest thing you will get if Ipanema but again, the touristy areas are very gay friendly and safe with restaurants catering to tourists....

Good luck

[SolaceSoul]

2 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

there is a gay bar in Ipanema, the name has been said on here but I am not sure if it is still open, it used to be right across from Galitos and down from the gay beach portion in Ipanema...somebody will confirm 

To Nem Ai.

It’s not really my thing, but many patrons (and posters here) seem to like it.

[Tomcal]

ToNemAi , it’s still there!  I was at it last week but really a place to go with friends not really a pick up place and drink prices are the same as bars in Manhatten w/o as many gooodlooking guys! imho

[HiThereAll]

Thanks for the replies. I will try standby for going this weekend. Via the US looks like a Bank Holiday weekend with some availability. If it works I will try finding a place via Ebab BnB site or at the Atl Copa Hotel that some have mentioned. I am a bit confused in that it seems like someone you might meet as a pay for play friend at the beach is not someone to take back to the hotel, but you can trust someone you meet at the sauna to take back with you? Looks like rain for Monday, so that might be a travel day to Tiradentes.

[Tomcal]

You can “trust” someone you meet at the sauna more because a copy of their ID is on file at the sauna, so there is a record of who they are if you should have a problem! I will say that in 17 years of taking guys from the sauna back to the hotel or Apt i have never had a problem! (we are talking hundreds, maybe a 1,000 guys! lol)

[BryBro]

54 minutes ago, HiThereAll said:

Thanks for the replies. I will try standby for going this weekend. Via the US looks like a Bank Holiday weekend with some availability. If it works I will try finding a place via Ebab BnB site or at the Atl Copa Hotel that some have mentioned. I am a bit confused in that it seems like someone you might meet as a pay for play friend at the beach is not someone to take back to the hotel, but you can trust someone you meet at the sauna to take back with you? Looks like rain for Monday, so that might be a travel day to Tiradentes.

When are you heading to Rio? I'll be there on the 10th. Looking forward to visiting 117 and 202.

[demedici]

57 minutes ago, Tomcal said:

You can “trust” someone you meet at the sauna more because a copy of their ID is on file at the sauna, so there is a record of who they are if you should have a problem! I will say that in 17 years of taking guys from the sauna back to the hotel or Apt i have never had a problem! (we are talking hundreds, maybe a 1,000 guys! lol)

10,000's?

[likeohmygod]

I will be again in Rio for some days in October after spending nearly 2 months in Fortaleza. If someone (newbies included) needs help with saunas, i will always be at 117/202

[Riobard]

1 hour ago, likeohmygod said:

I will be again in Rio for some days in October after spending nearly 2 months in Fortaleza. If someone (newbies included) needs help with saunas, i will always be at 117/202

Any recent observations regarding California or Dragão? 

[likeohmygod]

Nope... In Fortaleza i only date Grindr boys and their referrals. 

[Alaskabear]

On 8/30/2018 at 9:57 AM, likeohmygod said:

Nope... In Fortaleza i only date Grindr boys and their referrals. 

That’s good to know!    I plan on spending a week there this spring.   

[HiThereAll]

In rio now . Trying to decide which sauna for tonight.  Went to cinelandia porn theatre and sexy rose places. I left very happy  

i must be near pointe and maybe 30 min by metro from 117.  Manhatran is by the dntn airport

[Alaskabear]

That’s great!   If you have time later I’d love to hear more about cinelandia and sexy rose.    Have fun!

[HiThereAll]

Went to 117 at 1830 hrs sat night  -  lots of muscle guys.  For sex with me active and both of us cumming one guy wanted 200 r $ . Another wanted 120 but then left.  Good thing I left cinelandia happy . There was a show at 2130 but I left early and the boys began leaving before the show.  There was free wifi in the smoking area. Just ask a staff person to key it into your phone. Lapa was fun and I took a late metro back

not much luck on Grindr scruff hornet nor Romeo.  The few that replied for paid sex wanted 200-300 but I never defined  what the program would be and 2 of them could not host

pointe was suggested for Sunday night but was also told Sunday is not good anywhere 

not impressed by the atlantico copa hotel. Broken ac units. Broken elevators. Somewhat dirty floors. Shower was cold or scalding hot.  Bf was ok but crowded. Saw no older guys with their trophy boys from the night before.  However the atl copa was quite cheap via the booking site I used and it is next to a metro station. Beach is a healthy walk away.  I am told it is hot and humid for rio this time of year 

never quite figured out how to get a temp SIM card here   Wifi at the hotel is good so far and that seems to be enough

off to ipanema now

[likeohmygod]

During Sundays you wanna visit 117.

Pointe is great on mondays and Wednesdays. 

In the end it is all about the kind of guys you like. 

I wrote a guide some months ago about how to get and activate a TIM sim card. 

[HiThereAll]

Travel log:

Forgot this info earlier: Getting to Brazil. The airline cleared many Bus Class seats so it freed up coach seats. Arrived and took 2918 bus to Copa. 15R$. A local suggested NOT to take a cab hawker with 3 others for 20 R$ each. Yes, it would have been much faster, but the local guy thought it might not be safe. I had lots of time. Perhaps Brazil was a safer place years ago, but everyone I speak to in Rio warn me to be very very careful here and basically do not trust any strangers for any reason. As for the boys, different people from Europe both Sat night at 117 and Sun night at Pointe said never to take a boy home, and each described separate horror stories. They said, just do your sex at the sauna and leave happy. Also warned about buying drinks for the boys, due to the inflated costs for red Bull, etc. (I think inflated prices have always been true at higher end Clubs.)

Sun night Pointe was not busy. I arrived around 1900 hrs. There were less than 10 customers total over the 90 minutes or so that I was there. A few more muscular boys left as I arrived. The boys were not the muscle gods of 117. But no attitude either. The twink boy I had was introduced by a European guy and he was a very eager and fun lover. I was told Pointe had a show with a popular drag queen Sat night.

Some better luck on the phone apps: adam4adam seems useless here. Got a few hits and replies from Grindr and scruff. Hornet and planet romeo were less busy. Most wanted to come to the hotel for free or paid sex, but after the advice received, thought it best no to have someone come here. No one was clear about where the sex hotels are in Copa, nor the costs. Some of the twinks would agree to 100 R$ for sex, muscle boys wanted 200-300 and I found out that 2 of them were in porn movies. Always the problem was no place to play or bad timing.

Still, no idea where the non sauna gay night life is in Rio. Except for along the beach, many places close by 2100-2200 hrs. Some small bar regular local places can be quite busy, not close to the beach. The beach water in Ipanema is quite cold to me. The beach was quite crowded Sunday with most apparently tanning under an umbrella and many vendors selling food and drinks. The Hippie Fair at Gen Osoria Park was nice.

About to head into the city. Big fire last night destroyed the old Palace and National Museum. On the news, seems like this was an allegory for Brazil - the old dowager simply falling apart with no one to help fix it.

[Riobard]

There is only a smattering of love motels I know of in the southern part of south zone. One in Copacabana, Hotel Vanity, walkable from Cantalago station. Another, Lido Hotel, at the east end of Copacabana closer to Leme beach, walkable from Cardeal Arcoverde station. 

I think there is one or two in Botafogo and Leblon. 

In Gloria, the two utilized are Hotel Alameda across from 117 and the pricier Lovetime Hotel a short walk towards Catete. 

[HiThereAll]

Thx for the love motel info.

The news here seems mostly about the upcoming election.

Some news about the Palace / Museum fire. Not sure how it started nor why they could not limit the damage. Perhaps the entire building burned. Entire roof looks gone, but the walls are still up. Quite sad.

Separate issue, each am after the bf (which seems reasonable) I have had the trots. Maybe due to overdoing the fruit. The pineapple here is not very acidic and is very tasty. Much better than Hawaian  pineapple !! Watermelon tastes different too as do the bananas. Bought some pro biotics. Hope to be fine for lunch soon.

The Siquiera Grill food was fine, but the bill came to about 100 R$. Very expensive for Rio. I think I will try Caretao churrascarea across the street or go to Leblon for a nice dinner later this week.

 

[mvan1]

7 hours ago, HiThereAll said:

 

The Siquiera Grill food was fine, but the bill came to about 100 R$. Very expensive for Rio. I think I will try Caretao churrascarea across the street or go to Leblon for a nice dinner later this week.

 

Was the bill for two persons or more?   

If the bill was for only one person, there was a mistake in the bill unless your order included imported liquor.  

 

[likeohmygod]

Carretao is very good. 

I do not agree with some of the things the European friends warned you about. 

Bringing a sauna guy at home will always be 100% safer than bringing any other stranger at your place. The sauna guys must provide an ID in order to work inside. The last thing they want is to get blacklisted because of a customer who reports a bad behavior. 

I am not saying that it will be 100% safe as the sauna of course. But you can meet the crazy one (who steals or beats you down) even in Europe or in the US. 

Speaking about drinks cost... I found the saunas to have the same (if not lower) prices than the bars outside. Not sure about what to be warned about. 

Do not hook up guys from grindr unless you are proficient with Portuguese. Be very careful since there have been many reports of violent catfishes.