Have fun in Brazil but don't ignore facts

[mvan1]

https://jlk.news/world-news/economic-cost-of-crime-to-brazil-almost-r300-billion

[Latbear4blk]

Is that worse than the USA? 

Are you counting the cost of war crimes?

[caeron]

while we're busy talking about how 'dangerous' Rio is, take a look at the number of shooting in chicago...

[Badboy81]

6 hours ago, mvan1 said:

https://jlk.news/world-news/economic-cost-of-crime-to-brazil-almost-r300-billion

Thanks for sharing this...But take into account everything in the US....there is Chicago, there was Vegas, there was Orlando...there was Texas...there is shit going on everywhere, in every major city as well as small towns...

The best advice to offer anybody, anywhere is to always be cautious and aware of your surroundings...

Traveling and enjoying where you travel is one of the things that make life so great...as long as we think with our big heads and not our little heads, things should work out okay....

[RA1]

I have been many places around the world.  Some of them known to be dangerous, all of them capable of being dangerous.  I was at the Heathrow airport when suddenly there were "Tommies" carrying automatic weapons all over the place (an outbreak of the Troubles).  I flew very near Iran during the hostage crisis, expecting to be escorted at any moment by USN aircraft.  Likely they were there and not seen by me.  My credo then and now is keep moving.  It is more difficult to hit a moving target.  I apply this equally to US cities as well.

Best regards,

RA1

[Lucky]

It would be a mistake not to take seriously the fact that Rio has a huge crime problem. Don't bother comparing it to other cities, it is what it is. When you are there, the crime problem in Rio is much more important than Chicago's.

That said, we know from these forums that many people here go to Rio and come home safely. There are common sense things to do to protect yourself, all well documented in this forum. But we can talk about crime in Rio for weeks. The bottom line is we want to go, we are unlikely to be victimized if we observe standard common sense safety rules, and don't let ourselves get into situations where drugs, drink, or dick cause us to lose judgment.

I have always felt safe in Rio. I plan to keep going. I could come home with malaria, yellow fever, dengue, STDs, or I might come home damaged from violence. The odds are currently in my favor to come home safely, and that's just what I intend to do. Satiated sexually, of course!

[mvan1]

12 hours ago, Lucky said:

It would be a mistake not to take seriously the fact that Rio has a huge crime problem. Don't bother comparing it to other cities, it is what it is. When you are there, the crime problem in Rio is much more important than Chicago's.

That said, we know from these forums that many people here go to Rio and come home safely. There are common sense things to do to protect yourself, all well documented in this forum. But we can talk about crime in Rio for weeks. The bottom line is we want to go, we are unlikely to be victimized if we observe standard common sense safety rules, and don't let ourselves get into situations where drugs, drink, or dick cause us to lose judgment.

I have always felt safe in Rio. I plan to keep going. I could come home with malaria, yellow fever, dengue, STDs, or I might come home damaged from violence. The odds are currently in my favor to come home safely, and that's just what I intend to do. Satiated sexually, of course!

I have traveled to Brazil countless times and to many other places throughout the world.  

Only in Rio did I personally know a client who was a "regular" at Clube 117 who took a garoto to his hotel was then robbed and killed by the garoto.  That happened several years ago in Rio. 

In addition to that killing, there were several reported instances of garotos giving Americans the drug "good night Cinderella" but you don't hear much of that drug any more.  I personally knew one American who had that drug given to him.  When he woke (almost two days later) his money and passport were stolen but he was not physically manhandled during the incident. 

I am not telling about the above instances to scare people into staying away from Brazil.  Rather I  merely want to encourage visitors to exercise extra caution while in Rio.  

There is no doubt that crime in Rio is rapidly increasing.  The awful economy in Brazil causes people to do mean things simply to survive or help their families survive.  

Despite the increase in crime in Brazil, I will not stop visiting Brazil as often as I do nor do I have great fear while in Brazil.  

On occasion I have been foolish by taking chances but nothing bad ever happened to me in Brazil.   I seem to have an inner "sixth sense" that keeps me on the safe side of potential danger.   

I doubt that I will ever forget that person who was murdered merely because he met a handsome garoto at a sauna then decided to take him out of the sauna for more fun.  

The garoto was caught by the Rio police within days of the murder.  The garoto stupidly forgot that all the saunas in Brazil keep a photocopy of identification of all garotos who work in the saunas.   The garoto was easily traced back to the client he was seem leaving with from the sauna and whom he later killed.

Bottom line,  have a wonderful time in Brazil but remember "all that glitters is not gold."  

[Lucky]

Mvan, it's not that we disagree. You just don't seem to think we have any sixth sense or instinct for safety as you do. We all test that instinct every day.

[mvan1]

54 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Mvan, it's not that we disagree. You just don't seem to think we have any sixth sense or instinct for safety as you do. We all test that instinct every day.

With any due respect, you do not know what or how I think.  Your unnecessary comment is presumptuous, at best.

My intention was to alert readers in this forum who visit Rio/Brazil to remain vigilant and to acknowledge news reports of increased crime in Rio.    

No, not all visitors to Brazil "test that instinct" every day or while in Brazil.   Some visitors to Brazil do very foolish and dangerous things (I, included). 

So, without attempting to assume what or how others think, I simple want to encourage visitors to Brazil to realize that the good people there are in awful economic straits.  Although most are honest people, some will harm visitors if they cannot feed or properly care for their families.  

 

[caeron]

 

I think people who haven't been victims of random violence like to believe that their actions protect them. While you can be unwise, random is random. Act prudently, and get on with the living. The universe will kill you soon enough.