Members Bucknaway1614502762 Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 Trump didn't start the birther movement but he got to the bottom of the matter. Quote
Members Bucknaway1614502762 Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 I'm not a big fan of snoops since they tend to tilt left far too often but it's my bed time so I'll just drop this here. So You Think You Know the Real Donald Trump? A list tallies some of the good deeds credited to President Donald Trump. How accurate is it? 3 CLAIM A list tallies some of the good deeds accomplished by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. RATING MIXTURE ORIGIN In July 2016, an image listing some of the good deeds accomplished by Donald Trump was widely circulated on social media as a response to criticisms that that the Republican presidential candidate was racist, sexist or elitist: Here is our examination of the claims contained within that image: POSSIBLY TRUE: Donald Trump sheltered Jennifer Hudson rent-free after her family was murdered. Tragedy struck the family of Jennifer Hudson in October 2008, when her mother, brother, were murdered, whereupon the Oscar-winning actress returned home to Chicago and took a room at the Trump International Hotel Tower. According to contemporaneousreports, Trump offered up a hotel suite to Hudson and her family and picked up their tab for their stay. However, all such reports stemmed from a single source, a statementTrump himself made to People magazine; given Trump’s penchant for exaggeration and self-promotion, we wouldn’t put this one in the “TRUE” column without additional confirmation. MIXTURE: Donald Trump sued the City of Palm Beach when he bought a segregated club, Mar A Lago, to open it to Jews & blacks. The battle between Donald Trump and the City of Palm Beach over the Mar-A-Lago estate is a long and complicated one, beginning with Trump’s claim that he drove the price of the estate down by threatening to block its beachfront view: Trump wanted [Mar-A-Lago] to be his. So, according to Trump, when his first offer of $28 million was turned down, he decided to play hardball. He said he bought the beachfront property directly in front of it through a third party and threatened to put up a hideous home to block its ocean view, he recalled in the interview. “That was my first wall,” he said. “That drove everybody nuts. They couldn’t sell the big house because I owned the beach, so the price kept going down and down.” In the end, Trump bought the landmark in 1985 for a bargain, paying $5 million for the house and $3 million for [its] antiques and lavish furnishings. Trump had Mar-a-Lago’s hedge on South Ocean Drive chopped down to ensure passersby could see his castle. But Trump didn’t literally buy a “segregated club,” as when he purchased Mar-a-Lago in 1985 it was a private estate and not a club. It wasn’t until the 1990s that Trump sought to convert the property into a private club, whereupon the town council imposed a series of restrictions upon his plans. Those restrictions didn’t require that Trump operate a segregated club; rather, Trump battled those restrictions, in part, by making the point that it was unseemly for the town to impose greater restrictions upon his plans to open an integrated club than they did upon existing segregated clubs: The town council, seeing Trump as an ostentatious outsider, handed him a list of restrictions as he sought to transform the property in the 1990s. Membership, traffic, party attendance, even photography — all would be strictly limited. But Trump undercut his adversaries with a searing attack, claiming that local officials seemed to accept the established private clubs in town that had excluded Jews and blacks while imposing tough rules on his inclusive one. Trump’s lawyer sent every member of the town council copies of two classic movies about discrimination: A Gentleman’s Agreement, about a journalist who pretends to be Jewish to expose anti-Semitism, and Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner about a white couple’s reaction to their daughter bringing home a black fiance. The move infuriated council members, who said it was a distraction from their concerns that Trump’s club would spoil a quiet street. But, in time, Trump got most of the restrictions lifted. “He won in the court of public opinion,” said Jack McDonald, who was a council member at the time and who went on to be mayor and to join Mar-a-Lago. Town council member Allen Wyett opined that Trump’s nondiscriminatory policy at the club was more of a business decision than a social one: Wyett, who is Jewish, said he would hear Trump talk with pride about Mar-a-Lago’s nondiscriminatory policy, but wondered if it was a business strategy: “Was he smart enough to realize that Palm Beach is about 40 percent Jewish and he was not going to attract the old guard anyway?” MIXTURE: Donald Trump paid to ensure a Mexican-American boy would graduate from college when he saw a news story about his terminally ill mom. This statement about Trump and a Mexican-American boy refers to Melissa Young, a former beauty pageant contestant and Miss Wisconsin USA in 2005, who told Trump during a campaign stop on 30 March 2016 that she was suffering from a terminal illness. Although Young later thanked Trump for his support and said that he had enabled her young Mexican-American son to go to college, she was referring to donations made through Fundanything.com, a Kickstarter-like crowdfunding site launched by Trump, and not a personal contribution from the candidate: As my body is getting weaker, I am unsettled by the fact that I have never been able to directly thank you. Because of you and your efforts, my son Jack who is Mexican-American, has a chance at a better future and a solid education. You and the Miss USA pageant played a tremendous role in my life. About 3 years ago, Chelsea was in NYC and attended one of your many functions at Trump Tower, where you debuted FundAnything.com. This turned out to be a life changing event for my son and I. I am forever indebted to you. During the site’s launch Trump reportedly promised he would fully fund some FundAnything projects himself, but we found nothing indicating he had personally funded Young’s endeavor. TRUE: Donald Trump dispatched his plane to fly a sick Jewish boy for special care when he heard no airline would accommodate his medical equipment. This statement refers to an incident that occurred in 1988, when 3-year-old Andrew Ten and his parents could not get a flight from California to New York for seek medical treatment for the boy. When Andrew’s parents asked to use Trump’s private jet, the Republican Presidential candidate reportedly said “yes, I’ll send my plane out,” without hesitation. A more in-depth examination of this story was published as a separate article on this site. TRUE: Donald Trump sent $10,000 to hero bus driver Darnell Barton after seeing a news story about how he saved a woman from jumping off a bridge. In November 2013, bus driver Darnell Barton took a detour from his normal route in order to stop a woman from jumping off an overpass. Trump said he was moved by the gesture and promised to reward Barton with a $10,000 check: According to the Buffalo News, Trump followed through on his promise, and on 7 November 2013 Mayor Byron W. Brown delivered a check for $10,000 from the real estate mogul to Barton at a City Hall ceremony: Donald J. Trump wasn’t there himself. But in the well-appointed office of Mayor Byron W. Brown, a check for $10,000 from the real estate mogul was presented to the hero bus driver who brought a woman on the brink of suicide to safety. “Although I know to you it was just a warm-hearted first response to a dangerous situation,” Trump wrote to Darnell J. Barton, “your quick thinking resulted in a life being saved, and for that you should be rewarded.” TRUE: Donald Trump gave the job of constructing Trump Tower to Barbara Res, making her the 1st woman to build a skyscraper. Donald Trump did assign Barbara Res a role as vice president in charge of construction of Trump Tower, and she became the first woman credited with leading a skyscraper project (although Res suggested that one of the reasons Trump chose her was for the publicity value her hiring would generate): There were bragging rights that came with hiring her, (Res) says, and Trump “was quoted lots of places saying he’d hired the first woman to build a big skyscraper.” There were publicity bursts too, like the cover of Savvy Woman, with its very pre-Clarence-Thomas-hearing photos of women executives posing in some fairly unexecutive-like ways. In a February 2016 New York Daily Newsopinion piece, Res offered that Trump was not a pleasant person to work for, but that whatever his (apparent) outward failings might be, he was fair in his hiring of women when he thought they were best qualified for the job at hand: Donald Trump has been telling voters he is not a sexist, does not discriminate against women and will be “great for women” as President. As proof of this, he points to his hiring of a woman to oversee the construction of Trump Tower in 1980, when there were a very few women in construction. I was that woman. My view on his statement, and his candidacy more generally, in light of my experiences working directly for him and his then-wife Ivana: Even though he just went out of his way to repeat a pejorative reference to female anatomy to describe Ted Cruz, Trump is not as bad as he sounds. But he’s a lot worse than he says. Trump will tell you that everyone likes him. This is not the case. He can be very charming and ingratiating, but he is not nice. In my experience, he is nasty to the people who work for him. He can be very abusive and curt. He has an incredible temper and he lashes out at everyone, including [his daughter] Ivana. He has his fixed idea of how women work. He also used to have fixed ideas about certain nationalities, such as who are the best with money, who are the sternest masters, who are the cleanest. Just reflecting society — he profiled, but didn’t discriminate. He would always hire the person he thought was best without regard to gender. I know I never got a break like the one I got from Donald. Every employer I have ever worked for has considered me in terms of my gender. I would say that in that way, Trump was the best of them. He leered at attractive female employees. Yet I would call him more of a womanizer than a sexist, sort of like Bill Clinton. Trump says he loves women and I suspect he does, in his own way. But his public denigration of women and his association with objectifying activities like Playboy and pageants have the overall effect of blunting any assertion that he is not sexist, regardless of how many women Trump has hired. Snopes.com has long been engaged in the battle against misinformation, an effort we could not sustain without the support of our readers. If you'd like to learn more about how you can support us, click here. Fact Checker:Dan Evon Featured Image:Instagram Published:25 July 2016 Updated:13 September 2017 16K Did Donald Trump Say Republicans Are the “Dumbest Group of Voters”? Fact Check Politics 143K Did the U.S. Government Lose Track of 1,475 Migrant Children? Fact Check Politics 94K Did President Trump Revoke Gun Background Checks for Mentally Ill People? Fact Check Politics Quote
AdamSmith Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bucknaway1614502762 said: Trump didn't start the birther movement but he got to the bottom of the matter. That comment is too stupid to respond to. Please forgive me for rising to the bait. TotallyOz and Latbear4blk 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted June 11, 2018 Author Posted June 11, 2018 I cleaned up your last post as it had tons of extra links and page links to things not Trump like the top and bottom page footers. Everything about Trump was left in the thread. Trump got to the bottom of the birther movement? Really? He didn't keep going on and on after it was proven false? You are black. Right? You are gay. Right? Show me what he has done to help you or your groups. I know you won't. But, that is OK. People have their beliefs and never change them. Like me. I cannot in my mind see how any gay person would support him. But, some do. And, I am not a democrat only guy. I would have voted for McCain if he had chosen wisely. I was never a big fan of Obama and did not want him as President. But, I also never wanted Bernie. I still don't want Bernie. Not because I think he would be a bad but because I don't think he is electable. I did support Hillary. I also supported Bill. I never supported Bush Jr. but I voted for Bush Sr. I am up and down based on the individual candidate. I was disappointed in Hillary's choice for VP. But, in the end, we all have things we like about people and things we don't like. I just find it very hard to fathom why anyone would support the buffoon in office. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, TotallyOz said: Trumps beliefs 1. Obama was not American 2. His business had policies in NYC to discriminate against blacks and favor whites. 3. Calling for all Muslims to be shut off of entry into USA - Farrakhan would have loved that right? 4. All immigrants from Haiti have AIDS. You do the numbers on black and white percentages in that country. 5. Shithole countries. 6. Have we truly helped Puerto Rico? 7. White people marching with those assholes in the Carolina's were fine people. 8. Bannon, Arpaio, Sessions and Roy Moore (I'm from Alabama remember). And, yes, this SCOTUS appointment and many other judgeships. Patterns from a life of Trump. Oz, certainly Bucky is a wise man and familiar with your list , but doesnt care, similar to the reaction of most Trump supporters. It's futile to present them any concrete evidence of indiscretion..... they dont see it.... And the reason is quite clear. THEY are all on the same page so his actions resonate with them. The funny thing is that they also dont see that he is shitting on THEM too. TotallyOz 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 Buffoon Trump is an embarrasment EVERY time he opens his mouth. Even a gathering of his peers were aghast at his recent perfornmance at G7. He turned a serious gathering into his usual 3-ring circus, with uneducated comments and ridiculous free-style. He was clearly out of his league, but was intent on proving he belonged, and was TOP dog... And for people to want THAT representing them, and supporting it is unfathomable . AdamSmith and TotallyOz 2 Quote
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Members mvan1 Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 11 hours ago, TotallyOz said: Many loved Hitler being in charge of Germany as well. Just saying. Good response. Trump's grandfather, Frederick (born Friedrich) immigrated to New York City in 1885 from the German village of Kallstadt, Palatinate (by then part of the Kingdom of Bavaria near where Hitler was given the nick name "Bavarian Corporal" Hitler as a young corporal in the German army AdamSmith and TotallyOz 1 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, mvan1 said: Good response. Trump's grandfather, Frederick (born Friedrich) immigrated to New York City in 1885 from the German village of Kallstadt,a part of Bavaria near where Hitler was given the nick name "Bavarian Corporal" Hitler as a young corporal in the German army AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Bucknaway1614502762 said: Trump didn't start the birther movement but he got to the bottom of the matter. Yes, the bottom feeder got to the bottom of the bogus claim (birther movement). He kept the bogus claim against Obama going for nearly a decade then suddenly said Obama was born in America. He never offered an explanation nor did he offer an apology for the years of harassment of Obama. Yes - the bottom feeder (Trump) got to the bottom - where he belongs. Check out his wardrobe closet below: Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 ANY person of color, that supports Trump, his administration, policies and rhetoric should have their "ethnicity" Revoked ! Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 Hey Moron, you might need to "phone a Friend " ??? Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 11, 2018 Members Posted June 11, 2018 From HIS mouth to Gods Ears..... Billionaire investor George Soros has called President Trump a “narcissist [who is] perfectly willing to destroy the world in order to maintain his narcissism.” “I have built a kind of a mental picture of [Trump] as the ultimate narcissist. I don’t think that he was at all prepared to win the election. Neither he nor [Russian President Vladimir] Putin expected him to win,” he added in his interview with the Washington Post. The 87-year-old liberal donor has been fighting against Trump at least since the 2016 election where his Soros Fund Management helped fund opponent Hillary Clinton’s campaign to the tune of around $25 million. He has admitted her loss was surprising, but the setback did not temper his attacks on Trump, whom he has accused of being a “would-be dictator.” Soros has spoken out about increasing authoritarianism around the world as well as criticized te president for his positions on North Korea, climate change, and globalism. Soros also predicted Trump’s forthcoming downfall, telling a crowd in Davos, Switzerland, earlier this year, “I consider the Trump administration a danger to the world. But I regard it as a purely temporary phenomenon that will disappear in 2020, or even sooner.” "Mark MY Words" AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted June 12, 2018 Members Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 5:31 PM, Bucknaway1614502762 said: Now let's see your posts about the good things trump has done for minorities and how many awards he has been given by the various organizations..... Well, one good thing Trump does is fit quite well in a uniform and he also knows how to do a good salute. Are these enough "good things" about Trump? AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 12, 2018 Members Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 8:31 PM, Bucknaway1614502762 said: Now let's see your posts about the good things trump has done for minorities and how many awards he has been given by the various organizations..... You are right, sorry I forgot..... Throwing those paper towels to hurricane victims was an act of great kindness that will go down in history as one of his finest achievements. FOOL ! Quote
Members Bucknaway1614502762 Posted June 15, 2018 Members Posted June 15, 2018 Cartoons and Hitler images will truly be the end of the Trump Presidency Quote
Members mvan1 Posted June 16, 2018 Members Posted June 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Bucknaway1614502762 said: Cartoons and Hitler images will truly be the end of the Trump Presidency Now, wouldn't that be wonderful? The similarity between those two freaks is remarkable. The greatest difference between the two is that Trump is a chronic habitual liar while Hitler merely exaggerated on occasion. Nonetheless, they will go down in history as "two peas in a pod" or something worse, perhaps. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 16, 2018 Members Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, mvan1 said: Now, wouldn't that be wonderful? The similarity between those two freaks is remarkable. The greatest difference between the two is that Trump is a chronic habitual liar while Hitler merely exaggerated on occasion. Nonetheless, they will go down in history as "two peas in a pod" or something worse, perhaps. I am sure Hitler would love a few of Roseann's cookies ? Quote
Members Suckrates Posted June 18, 2018 Members Posted June 18, 2018 Already a DONE DEAL !!!! AdamSmith 1 Quote