Rio trip April/May 18

[geodesic]

Okay this long overdue but here are some reflections from my trip to Rio last month. In summary, it was a fantastic trip that was ruined by one particularly traumatic experience. 

I will post in 4 or 5 instalments. 

Part 1 

Club 117 (Went on a Tuesday and Thursday) 

I liked the place - decent selection of boys. 

On my first visit, I picked a white 22 year old, around 5 ft 9, with a great body. Took a bit of courage to approach him but he was super friendly and gave me a firm handshake. He was transitioning from an athletic body type that you see in young guys to one that is more muscular, as you see in guys in their mid twenties. He wore these dark rimmed glasses and had this facial scruff on his strong jawline which made him incredibly hot in a nerdy kind of way. He told me he wanted 120 which I agreed to.

In bed, we fooled around, lots of body contact, cuddling, stroking. Lots of kissing – deep kissing with tongues. I loved licking his trail of hair leading to his insanely thick, girthy cock which was truly a pleasure to suck (with a condom). I enjoyed licking and sucking his balls but they were also huge – could not fit them both in my mouth. I chose not to cum as I felt that the night was young, and I thought I might want to sample other guys.  I tipped him 50. This was a wise decision because I just decided to hire him again (the very same night), and found him very eager to please. In the second iteration, I tried to have him fuck me BUT there was no way I could "accommodate" him so I fucked him instead. Tried lots of positions, and finally came inside him (in a condom!) whilst fucking him missionary and kissing him at the same time. I loved it - there is no way I could ever replicate this kind of experience where I am from with an escort. 

On my second visit, I went with an older (25 yo) 6ft muscle stud with a designer beard. He asked for 150 – I didn’t bother haggling as he truly was quite stunning. He had great genetics – big chest, big arms. After a period of muscle worshipping, I asked him to suck me. Although he proceeded to do so, I didn’t really enjoy it (it was a really half hearted attempt on his part). I then decided I wanted to be fucked but again was in the same situation as on my previous visit -  this guy was just too big. I came by having him rub his cock on mine. Having been with atleast 5 guys at Club 117 (and I know I can’t make a valid statistical inference from such a small sample size) it seems to me that most of these guys are XXL. Being more of a bottom, I was left disappointed at not being able to get fucked, each and every visit.

I will share my experiences of Thermas Lagoa in the next installment.

[sanddunes]

28 minutes ago, geodesic said:

it seems to me that most of these guys are XXL.

Definitely with you on that   I think Brazilian guys on average tend to be pretty big, and even moreso in the saunas.  

[Tartegogo]

Check their cock size before going in the cabin. They usually don’t mind showing it off. 

[camsi1975]

Just take extra lube with you and I am sure you can take these cocks and won’t regret it. I wasn’t sure I could take at first but I managed and didn’t look back...

[Tomasian]

5 hours ago, geodesic said:

On my first visit, I picked a white 22 year old, around 5 ft 9, with a great body. Took a bit of courage to approach him but he was super friendly and gave me a firm handshake. He was transitioning from an athletic body type that you see in young guys to one that is more muscular, as you see in guys in their mid twenties. He wore these dark rimmed glasses and had this facial scruff on his strong jawline which made him incredibly hot in a nerdy kind of way. He told me he wanted 120 which I agreed to.

Just wondering if the gentleman you're referring to is circumcised. If yes, i met him as well.

[floridarob]

10 hours ago, camsi1975 said:

Just take extra lube with you and I am sure you can take these cocks and won’t regret it. I wasn’t sure I could take at first but I managed and didn’t look back...

EXACTLY what I was going to say....they know how to use their dick, before you know it they'll be balls deep.....it feels so fulfilling you won't feel the same with an average dick after, lol

 

Also, All Brazilians don't have big dicks, I've been with a number  of guys I've met from discos that my dick is bigger (I'm not big)....is like going to a basketball game and thinking all Americans are tall ;-)

[geodesic]

Part 2

Thermas Lagoa - went on a Sunday

Thermas Lagoa teaming with garotos on the Sunday I visited. I can be a bit indecisive so it was hard to pick someone but I eventually settled for a hot black guy in his early/mid thirties who spoke good English. It was nice having a conservation with him as none of the other garotos seemed to speak a word on English. He mentioned that he was married and had a daughter (WTF??). He had an incredible physique (told me he was a personal trainer). I ask him if he kisses, and he then proceeded to give me a minute long demonstration which was amazing. I decided to go with him straight away. 

So we're in one of the rooms. It's grotty with stained walls, and just seems dirty. The mattress seems badly used and abused and I notice this sticky, wet patch on the bed sheet – totally grosses me out. All of a sudden the garoto disappears leaving me confused trying to work out why he's left. Minutes later he's back with a bunch of towels which he carefully spreads across the bed - kinda sweet of him. We start off with kissing, and he sucks my tongue as if was it cock - felt incredible. We the try 69 with him on top of me. I cum in his mouth (in a condom). Totally worth the 180 I paid him (30 tip).

Next experience was a 6ft 2 hairy muscle stud, with short, dark hair and brown skin. He was very masculine (clearly a straight guy) with a sexy deep voice – wanted 150 – I agreed. After having sealed the deal, it dawned on me that over the last few days, I had been living out my ultimate fantasy – having sex with straight guys. This hunk had a really nice cock in terms of it size and shape (curved upwards slightly). I decided with some trepidation to have a go sucking it without a condom. So as I retracted the foreskin and moved closer to his cock, I caught a whiff of him - and let's just say this was real turn off. As with all the other garotos I have hired, it again became clear that penetrative sex wouldn’t work with this guy and he somehow sensed I wanted to be fucked but didn't want him inside me (weird how these guy's can just read your mind). So he then sort of simulated sex by sliding his cock back and forth in between my buttocks – this felt weird at first but it was hot looking at him in action with his bulging muscles thrusting away in the mirrors (on the walls on ceilings). 

[floridarob]

4 minutes ago, geodesic said:

 

So we're in one of the rooms. It's grotty with stained walls, and just seems dirty. The mattress seems badly used and abused and I notice this sticky, wet patch on the bed sheet – totally grosses me out.

 

 

I decided with some trepidation to have a go sucking it without a condom. So as I retracted the foreskin and moved closer to his cock, I caught a whiff of him - and let's just say this was real turn off. 

The rooms are getting really run down....

I always make sure we both take showers before and after.....I know the smell you're talking about, guess some guys like it though...I prefer clean smelling.

Take the leap and let them fuck you, most are EXPERTS at this, you'll regret it if you don't, lol

[geodesic]

Tartegogo - Yes, that is what I will when I am next in Brazil. I just felt it would have been awkward asking them to do this in full view of others, when they are sitting there with you in the bar. As a newbie, I wasn't sure if this would have been considered acceptable.

Tomasian - yes he was circumcised. 

camsi75 and Floridarob - well, I did try, I guess I just have a very low pain threshold. 

 

 

[floridarob]

6 minutes ago, geodesic said:

 

camsi75 and Floridarob - well, I did try, I guess I just have a very low pain threshold. 

 

 

you must be tighter than us whores 

[geodesic]

Part 3 - Still in Sao Paulo

So after a long tour of the city, I decided to check out Grindr. I found a hot garoto pretty much within two minutes of looking and agreed to meet him within an hour.

I met him outside hotel entrance - he looked much older than on his pictures (looked to be in his 40s). We quickly walked past reception – no eye contact. Wasn’t stopped. 

Once in the room, he said he wanted a beer, I then told him that I would give him extra money to buy one later. He takes his clothes off – nothing to get excited about – the words “dad bod” come to mind. I ask him to take a shower which he does… and then lays on the bed. He can’t make himself hard – wants porn. Insisting on it. So I get my ipad pro out, put it on for him. 

Five minutes in to the “session” – he wouldn’t kiss as he promised he would (and actually I wouldn’t have wanted to do this, any way). Wouldn’t give me a blowjob as he promised he would. Out of frustration I just decided to end the session.

I had put away my wallet in the safe, having kept 200reals in my pocket (the agreed fee) which I then took out to give him.

He then says starts shouting loudly, “no 200 US dollars not reals”. As I argued with him, he got increasingly confrontational and loud to the point it felt unsafe. Then asks me to speak to someone on the phone (a woman) who says "you agreed 200 US dollars not reals… if you don’t give it, he will tell the police you raped him, and believe me you will be jailed. You have no idea what a brazilian jail is like". I ended the call.

Obviously what she was saying was BS. But, in that moment, in that situation, I believed her. My convoluted thought process was along these lines - I figured the police would have to detain me if such an accusation is made at the very least. I remember thinking about the Me too movement, about Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey – that alleged rape victims views are now increasingly given primacy (and rightly so). I remember thinking my close friends and family would inevitably find out about my indiscretions in Brazil (I’m closeted). 

I asked to speak to the woman again and explained that I would have paid this amount but in reals but I simply didn’t have that money. She told me go to an "24 hour banco" to withdraw the money  but felt that I would be walking into another scam at best or a dangerous situation at worst, so I told her I would just give him my smart watch. He then said "no I want your ipad".

I just wanted him to leave so I gave it to him.

[Tartegogo]

I am not sure what to say, except that I am really sorry you were bullied like this.

This was ... painful ... to read. 

Certainly it seems Brasil is not for everyone. 

[sanddunes]

Post the con-artists picture here and out him.  It’s clear him and his female accomplice are doing this regularly to unsuspecting foreigners.

Hiring guys is not illegal in brazil, and his threat to call the police was a bluff.  But I understand the situation was scary and in the moment you weren’t sure how to react.

As I mentioned in a previous thead, a garoto pointed out some guys at Lagoa who he claimed had been in jail. Outside the sauna setting, things can unfortunately get out of control.  Latinddude posted a few days ago about a different garoto who went to his hotel, refused to perform and stole his cologne.

Did he know you were closeted?  That might have emboldened him to think you would be more susceptible to blackmail

[torogen]

47 minutes ago, Tartegogo said:

This was ... painful ... to read.

Oh, Lord, was that ever painful to read. I understand panicking. In that situation, I would have: started shouting; walked out the door; pretended I was going to the 24 hour ATM and then ditch the dude, or report him to building security/doorman once I was downstairs...or, ideally, rejected him when he showed up and didn't match his pics. Please do post his photo.

[Gotti]

Can't people figure out there is a pattern going on here? All cases of robbery or improper behavior reported here recently on this forum envolves people taking persons they haven't met before to their hotels/apartments. I think nobody should be so vulnerable anywhere on earth, much less in Brazil, kinda asking for trouble and living in an utopian universe. Wake up for reality. In the sex business, we, the buyers, are up to be wronged, is not the other way around.

[Lucky]

My condolences on the robbery.

As for the big dicks. so many times I am told that it is not the dick that is too big, it's my head that's too small. If I just relax and accept the dick, my body will relax and take it. Don't resist, they tell me. And floridarob is right, many of these guys are just pros at fucking. (I can't vouch for floridarob! )

Well, in my last sauna visit I saw a guy with a humongous dick and decided to see how much of it I could take. I felt relaxed, I definitely wanted it, and he plowed away. Since he didn't say anything, I assumed I was getting a good portion of it. But when I asked him once finished, he told me it only went in about half-way. I was disappointed. But not ready to try again!

(It's my opinion that long dicks are not difficult to take, it's the fat ones that do the stretching.)

[geodesic]

Tartegogo: In response to your comment that Brazil isn’t for everyone. It certainly is for me! As I mentioned, virtually all of my sauna experiences were great, and I could never hope to replicate the experiences I had where I am from (UK). I am already planning my next trip to Brazil in Dec.

Sanddunes - Ironically, with a rape allegation hanging over me, the first thing I did without thinking, was to delete my grindr profile as I figured this guy would try to blackmail me some more. So regrettably I don’t have access to these pictures any longer. And no I don't think I gave any indication I was closeted. 

Gotti: Not wishing to sound as though I am blaming anyone, but some posters on here have sort of glamorised grindr hookups making them seem super easy and guaranteed fun with the implication being its completely safe. I learnt the hard way that it's best just to stick to the saunas. 
 

[Latbear4blk]

This could have happened in any big city around the world. I am sorry you went through this experience but glad you are able to tell about it.

I never noticed that Grindr was glamorized. No online outlet should be glamorized. But whether you met him through Grindr, Rentmen, or in the street or a bar; bringing someone you do not know to your place carries always a certain degree of risk. 

[floridarob]

Since the hookup was on Grindr and that's where the deal was made.....you must have proof of the conversation as what was agreed to , no?

[Badboy81]

6 hours ago, geodesic said:

Part 3 - Still in Sao Paulo

So after a long tour of the city, I decided to check out Grindr. I found a hot garoto pretty much within two minutes of looking and agreed to meet him within an hour.

I met him outside hotel entrance - he looked much older than on his pictures (looked to be in his 40s). We quickly walked past reception – no eye contact. Wasn’t stopped. 

Once in the room, he said he wanted a beer, I then told him that I would give him extra money to buy one later. He takes his clothes off – nothing to get excited about – the words “dad bod” come to mind. I ask him to take a shower which he does… and then lays on the bed. He can’t make himself hard – wants porn. Insisting on it. So I get my ipad pro out, put it on for him. 

Five minutes in to the “session” – he wouldn’t kiss as he promised he would (and actually I wouldn’t have wanted to do this, any way). Wouldn’t give me a blowjob as he promised he would. Out of frustration I just decided to end the session.

I had put away my wallet in the safe, having kept 200reals in my pocket (the agreed fee) which I then took out to give him.

He then says starts shouting loudly, “no 200 US dollars not reals”. As I argued with him, he got increasingly confrontational and loud to the point it felt unsafe. Then asks me to speak to someone on the phone (a woman) who says "you agreed 200 US dollars not reals… if you don’t give it, he will tell the police you raped him, and believe me you will be jailed. You have no idea what a brazilian jail is like". I ended the call.

Obviously what she was saying was BS. But, in that moment, in that situation, I believed her. My convoluted thought process was along these lines - I figured the police would have to detain me if such an accusation is made at the very least. I remember thinking about the Me too movement, about Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey – that alleged rape victims views are now increasingly given primacy (and rightly so). I remember thinking my close friends and family would inevitably find out about my indiscretions in Brazil (I’m closeted). 

I asked to speak to the woman again and explained that I would have paid this amount but in reals but I simply didn’t have that money. She told me go to an "24 hour banco" to withdraw the money  but felt that I would be walking into another scam at best or a dangerous situation at worst, so I told her I would just give him my smart watch. He then said "no I want your ipad".

I just wanted him to leave so I gave it to him.

This is the exact reason I tell guys to NOT think with their little heads and use your big head...being horny is never a reason to put your life in jeopardy...

I hope everybody reads this and used their best judgement

Glad it did not escalate...And you are safe

I got stiffed my last trip in Rio but it was only 150R for a wack ass bodybuilder....Im sure somebody else STILL ventured to see him even though I gave a warning....

[docbr]

Ow sorry for the iPad loss, the moment you wrote that you played porn for the boy on it I knew something bad was going to happen. Golden rule is to not have anything valuable, including eletronics, on sight. 

About the scam of alleged rape, never heard about someone convicted or imprisoned here in Brazil for raping another adult male.  Police would never believe the rape accusations, but It would be a hassle to clarify everything. I'm pretty sure tho, that the grindr boy would never want any police involved.

Grindr encounters are more dangerous than the saunas, and not for the unexperienced. Boys, including the sauna ones, will likely try to take advantage of you if you show any sort of uneasy or insecurity. The saunas are safer, and the risk is only discussing about a fee with the reception staff if a boy try to get more money off you.

Hope you ended you trip well after the incident. 

[Riobard]

Nobody for commercial sex purposes crosses my BRZ accommodation threshold without each of us having the option of verifying the other's accurate full name, cell phone # (eg Whatsapp), and ideally at least one social media account. The transaction is not illegal, so balking results in immediate disqualification. And they will have unambiguously confirmed the fee and currency by their own hand. 

Grindr and similar apps convey a false sense of security. Dates should be treated no differently than picking up a street hustler. 

[Riobard]

Regarding size, I too am a reluctant tight bttm but with serious fantasies of being power-topped and intense orgasms when it can successfully happen with a big hung dude. Look, you can't put the baby back into the womb in 30 minutes in an unfamiliar setting. I usually arrange an hour or more with these dotados. I stock a lot of rubbers. After initial foreplay, they are quite happy to accommodate loosening me up with one, two, then maybe three fingers whilst I am getting super-excited with nipple play, sucking, 69, rimming what have you. Getting sufficiently worked up and primed to the point of begging for that dick to be pile-driven in. But often beginning by being on top and sitting on it ... that position is usually easier for accommodating the package size. Usually then rolling back as one and having him on top. I find on all fours the most difficult because I usually cannot see the scene well enough to enhance the arousal. The point is that there are effective ways to desentisize without pressure and with a cooperative and flexible guy. Now I find that there is much less correlation between size and discomfort. 

[TotallyOz]

Sorry for your experience.  I am not sure what I would have done. But, I did have a problem at the Intercontinental in Sao Paulo and I called the concierge and security to come to my room.  Naturally, they dealt with the situation.  For me, I always have one boy per country that is my long stay boy and he always deals with the issues. I found this easy, cheap and well-worth the trouble.  I have had the same boys in multiple countries and they don't mind helping out as they are there to protect me from scammers.

[Walker]

On 6/4/2018 at 6:50 AM, floridarob said:

Also, All Brazilians don't have big dicks, I've been with a number  of guys I've met from discos that my dick is bigger (I'm not big)....is like going to a basketball game and thinking all Americans are tall ;-)

To be honest, some of the dick sizes I had from Grindr in Brazil were quite disappointing.