A Newbie's 2nd Time in Brazil: Sao Paulo and Porto Alegre

[Riobard]

I have learned, after too many "nothing ventured, so nothing gained" failures, to try to immediately and unhesitatingly go up to the targeted garoto and ask him to look for me later. I also make a habit of slipping him my 'zap number. If he tosses it, so be it. Truth is, I usually end up tossing his salad later. Of course, I will have also deferentially said hello briefly to the apparent cock-blocking customer.

[Riobard]

I ... we return the car with no issue I

Unlike tart, I just took this to mean there were not yet any offspring from all that continual breeding.

[numazu]

On 6/16/2018 at 1:06 PM, Blackoch said:

Thank you Numazu, you are the reason why Colombia is on my radar and you now make me want to go outside of Rio/Sampa.

i think I’ll try Salvador, Bahia first... (I do love my black people. lol)

Thanks! If I can inspire anyone to travel because of just knowing about my experiences then I know that writing about them is worth it. Better start traveling, coz the world is huge (and the cocks, and the asses)!

On 6/16/2018 at 2:54 PM, Riobard said:

Numazu is a mature savvy adult who has game, and in every other respect does not seem to require an explicit, identifiable fan base, right? (Right?). In this case, no need to paternalize him by taking up a cause he himself has not necessarily initiated. He has the prerogative, like anyone else, to tell our dear tart (who happened this one time to go a little unsavoury yet not treacle ... and yes do tell the calorie counter results) or others to 'piss off'. 

Thanks for reading me accurately. Though I would never tell anyone to piss off hehehe. And Tarte's post really wasn't unsavoury at all! Be that as it may, I'm a big boy (trapped in a short asian's body). I can handle it. 

On 6/16/2018 at 4:37 PM, Tartegogo said:

As I said in that most hated post, I love the thread. 

Muito obrigado meu amor!

On 6/16/2018 at 5:00 PM, Riobard said:

KKKKKK ... So where, for example, is my Sycophant Squad here on the board?

Do I have a sycophant squad?  LOL

On 6/16/2018 at 7:00 PM, sanddunes said:

<Chill Pills>

I need this in my life.

On 6/19/2018 at 10:41 AM, Riobard said:

I love me some skilled digital penetration.

A secondary superhuman trait is he milks in all the right ways, sparing you greedy added expense upon added expense.

He is very very skilled with his fingers... And yes, he has saved me plenty of money this trip. I had a budget in mind of two garotos a day, on top of the 250 reals I intend to pay Gabriel. I obviously did not do this, at least as of the current Day. I still have a few posts left before I wrap up.

19 hours ago, floridarob said:

You're Asian.....it's inevitable.

Oh, and I am also good at math and play two types of instruments...

Oh wait, I am all those things. Damn it. 

Hehe Rob you know me. I told you I started out as a bottom twink in my teens and early 20s and graduated to what I am now. Somehow Brazil is pulling me back to my youth. Which is good I guess.

more replies later...

[Tartegogo]

11 hours ago, Riobard said:

I ... we return the car with no issue I

Unlike tart, I just took this to mean there were not yet any offspring from all that continual breeding.

You pick up on / create possible meanings I could never even envisage.

I am still chuckling at “boring the crap out of me”.

[wncdemcub]

When I was in PA I had a great time at Mezzaninu but if I had been in your shoes, I would always be comparing the stud I had with me. I could see the evening you had happening to myself.

[Guest MrVessey]

I have yet to monger outside Thailand but this TR is making me think I ought to try. Thank you.

[Lucky]

Numazu deserves praise if for only livening up boytoy.com as it hits the summer doldrums. I remember the days when Asians took a back seat, and it is thrilling to see Numazu take the lead on a hot topic here.

Not only is that thrilling, but his tales are too. Now, if he would just show more than a tease of Gabriel!

[paulsf]

He just left Bangkok and is starting a post on that trip. So Lucky you can read Asia and Brazil trips at same time. 

[wncdemcub]

9 hours ago, paulsf said:

He just left Bangkok and is starting a post on that trip. So Lucky you can read Asia and Brazil trips at same time. 

Where are the Asia trip articles being posted?

[axiom2001]

4 minutes ago, wncdemcub said:

Where are the Asia trip articles being posted?

I think Plalnetime was being facetious, but to take your question seriously, there is a forum devoted to Asia Travel and, and, and...!

[wncdemcub]

5 minutes ago, axiom2001 said:

I think Plalnetime was being facetious, but to take your question seriously, there is a forum devoted to Asia Travel and, and, and...!

I figured but didn’t see anything and thought perhaps it was being posted on another forum

[mvan1]

37 minutes ago, wncdemcub said:

Where are the Asia trip articles being posted?

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11827-bangkok-trip-report-2018-i-get-really-greedy-edition/

[Tartegogo]

14 minutes ago, axiom2001 said:

I think Plalnetime was being facetious, but to take your question seriously, there is a forum devoted to Asia Travel and, and, and...!

No i think planettime meant that numazu has started posting on some gay thai travel forum.

PS: yes, MVAN1 beat me to it by a few seconds, that is the one.

Specifically the new story is here I believe:

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11827-bangkok-trip-report-2018-i-get-really-greedy-edition/#entry122406

[PopeFrancis]

On 6/22/2018 at 3:40 PM, Tartegogo said:

...but I agree the boys could push themselves a little more at the gym.(@PopeFrancis will surely  disagree with me on this).

Correct.  I disagree.

[paulsf]

Yes, he just started the post. He is traveling this weekend but when he gets posting again he will cross post it here to the Asia forum. 

[Lucky]

Well then, we all come out winners when numazu starts reporting! I look forward to reading more, and I'll keep an eye out for a PM with a pic I will like...(hint, numazu, hint!)

I'll be going to Brazil before I go to Bangkok again, so all of the info is quite helpful too.

[numazu]

Day 9: It’s Hat trick day

Goodbye Gabriel

Today is my last full day in Brazil this trip. Gabriel and I part ways too: I fly back to Sao Paulo and he flies back home to Rio. While I feel sad about saying goodbye to Gabriel, I have two things to look forward to today – (1) a chance to visit Lagoa, the legendary sauna in Sao Paulo and (2) hookup with the Grindr guy I met in Day 4.5. And of course I still have Gabriel this morning, so it looks like it is a three guy day for me. I usually have a three guy day when I have a guy staying over the night, and then having another guy in the afternoon, before having a last guy at night.

I was kind of regretting the missed opportunity at Sauna Mezzaninu last night. By all other accounts it’s a great sauna with hot boys, judged by both what I saw last night and what has been written about it on here. It is my fault for bringing a Rio garoto who was hotter than the sun, and who, even with all the other available boys in the sauna, for me, proved to have outshone everyone else in the sauna that night. So next time I am in Porto Alegre, I will be alone, and hungry to do this all over again. That is why tonight, I will be going to Lagoa, to satisfy my sauna hunger.

But first thing’s first, Gabriel and I wake up to the alarm at 6 AM. I turn towards Gabriel. He stirs but still has his eyes closed. I lick his nipple and put my hand on his cock. His cock is big even soft. I massage it a little bit. Slowly but surely it turns into the monster size he’s known for. I feel his hand behind my head to guide it to his face. We kiss deeply, morning breath and all. “Good morning, how are you” he says, in English, smiling. “I feel great,” I tell him, in English as well. “You want?” Gabriel asks me, grabbing his now fully erect cock. “Sim, por favor,” I answer. I knew what he wanted too. After some more kissing and sucking, I take a condom and sheathe his cock with it. I liberally apply some lube on him and in me, and I slowly sit on it and ease it in. I’ve gotten used to the size by now. And from how fast he came, he still liked how I felt. He pulled out and started kissing me. He took my cock and finished me off.

We shower together, playfully soaping each other like we usually do, and talk about future plans. I will see him again in September, in Rio. He wants me to stay with him in Sao Goncalo. He wants to show me Ilha Grande. I tell him I was going to Belo Horizonte as my companion city before Rio, but will see him in Rio after, for possibly 2 nights, maybe 3. I was careful not to make too many promises I cannot keep. He is probably used to customers promising all kinds of shit made while under his spell, and renege on it when they go back to their normal lives. Gabriel was a fantasy companion for any person, and one that was seductive and astonishing, but one that needs to be kept safely at a distance, in the domain of fantasy.

Once we finish packing we clean up a little bit in the AirBNB. I thought it was a pretty solid AirBNB stay, even if we barely had time to enjoy it. I send a message to the owner saying we are about to leave. He texts back saying to just leave the keys to the guard at the gate. Gabriel starts to put on his sweater. I tell him “Nao!” and I hand him my black sweater. I tell him to keep it, since I knew he liked it and used it the whole time we were together. “Seguro?” he asks me. “Sim, melhor em voce,” I told him it looked better on him. “Seu frio no aviao!” he tells me, concerned I was going to freeze in the plane. He takes his Adidas sweater, the expensive one given to him by a client, and hands it to me. “Para mim?” I ask him, was it for me? He nods, smiling from ear to ear. I wear the sweater. He says I look good in it.

I want to apologize to the client who gave Gabriel the sweater. It is now with me in California.

We Uber it to Porto Alegre airport. We have “breakfast” in the VIP lounge in Porto Alegre. We were the only ones there. I encourage Gabriel to steal as many snacks that he could and put it in his bag:

 

When my flight starts boarding I hug Gabriel tightly and we say goodbye. We will see each other again.

Hello Thiago

I get to my next Sao Paulo hotel in the mid-afternoon. I’m not staying at the Intercontinental this time, but I stayed true to the IHG brand and stay at Staybridge Suites, for only $55 for a night. I didn’t need anything fancy. I am leaving tomorrow to go back to the USA at lunchtime, I only needed a place to stay in Central Sao Paulo to sleep and possibly host a boy or two. The hotel was between Itaim Bibi and Parque Ibirapuera, so it was pretty central. It took me an hour to get there from the airport.

My priority was to be able to go to the sauna tonight. It is Lagoa after all.  But it was only 2 PM, so I had enough time to get a boy to have sex with. And I didn’t have to troll on Grindr. I already have a boy. I have been talking to Grindr Guy, who I hooked up with on Day 4.5, during the intermission during Marcos’ futile dash to the airport. Let’s call him Thiago. To recap, Thiago was a 22-year-old Paulista Renaissance man student majoring in Music and Biology, and Volleyball, Capoeira and Swimming. He was a fantastic fuck and sat on me like a champ. The bruise on my left nipple from his over eager exertions is almost gone, so its time to get one again from him.

I’ve been talking to him all week while I’ve been with Gabriel, keeping him abreast of my activities, to keep the flame burning:

 

I talk to him about meeting on Saturday at 3 PM:

 

And we talk about what we will do to each other on Saturday:

And today, I follow up on him on my whereabouts in Sao Paulo:

When it was 2 PM, Thiago tells me he is getting ready to go to my hotel:

 

He asks me to pay for the Uber. That was new, but 12 reals to pay for this handsome boy to get to the hotel faster is really a small price to pay for this quality.

He calls me in Whatsapp to tell me he is close, and to meet me outside the hotel to pay for the Uber. I go outside and wait for the Uber. After 5 minutes his car arrives. He steps out of the car and waves at me. “Do you have 6 reals?” he asks. I give him 6 reals from the 12 reals I had in my hand. He pays the driver and the Uber speeds away. He hugs me. I ask “I thought it was 12 reals for the Uber?” He answers “I found 6 reals in my wallet. I thought I did not have the change for the ride.” He takes my hand. “Vamos?” he asks. I laugh. “Lets go!”

We go hand in hand to the elevators. No one bats an eye. I guess Staybridge Suites is cool with visitors. We get to the room. Thiago kisses me hard. He then asks me “Do you want to talk first or talk later?” I take off his shirt and unbutton his shorts and massage his already hard cock. “What do you think?” He returns the favor and takes off my clothes. We kiss very very deeply.

We go to town on each other, but we take our time this time. This kid was very strong. His thighs were fairly muscular, making his ass like steel traps. I lay down on the bed. He takes off his underwear. He sits on my face. I part his cheeks and fulfill a promise. I ate him out. He chows on my cock in response. When he’s done he immediately sits on my cock, with just spit and nothing else. It was hot. I fuck him for a while. He lifts me up and kneels down to suck on my cock some more. He then bends over to expose his wonderful ass to me. I fuck him that way. Not wanting to cum yet, I put his cock in my mouth. After just a few licks he suddenly cums in mouth.

“Sorry,” he smiles sheepishly. I kiss him, cum still in my mouth. This was hot. We go through a few more rounds of wrestling in the sheets till I cum in his ass. He cums for a second time on his tummy. I lick it all up and kiss him again till the cum was gone. “Get the cum out of me,” he asks. I got what he was asking. I lay down and he sits on my face again. The cum oozes out of him into my mouth. I sit up and he kisses me. The cum was gone, again.

That was filthy fun. No cleanup. Very efficient. We laugh. “You’re very good,” I tell him. “I know, and you told me this already,” he flashes that 1000 watt smile. We talk some more in bed, cuddling, kissing. It was nice just being like this. We talk about what my initial impressions about Brazil, about his life, about mine. I ask him if I can see him again next trip. He said he will be waiting.

We shower, and decide to have coffee. I tell him to choose, he chooses Starbucks (to my chagrin). Bought two cappuccinos and resumed our talk. Then it was close to 5 PM. I tell him I need to wrap up, but thanked him for coming. We promise each other to keep in touch on Whatsapp. I call him an Uber.

That was fun, but fun more to come.

Next, Lagoa.

[pylonguy71]

waiting with excitement for your next installment! I so love your writing style. As I've written to you privately before, you are a natural storyteller. I feel like I've been on your travels with you after reading your wonderful posts.

[CaliPexx]

3 hours ago, pylonguy71 said:

waiting with excitement for your next installment! I so love your writing style. As I've written to you privately before, you are a natural storyteller. I feel like I've been on your travels with you after reading your wonderful posts.

@numazu1: I totally agree with the assessment of your writing style by @pylonguy71 . Have you ever considered publishing your experiences as mini-chapters in an anthology? Maybe as an e-book? Ten years ago I might have said that the world wasn't yet ready for that type of reading experience. But times have changed. Something to think about. 

[numazu]

Day 9.5: I Go(a) to Lagoa

Is the common knowledge here in the boards that Lagoa is the best garoto sauna in Brazil? From my casual combing through the posts here, it sure seems that way. That is why I sent off Gabriel back to Rio. That’s why I kicked out Thiago. Got to make sure I am free and ready for the best of what Brazil has to offer.

But just one thing before i dive into things: even with all the circus sex I like having, I am still not comfortable having sex in saunas, or bathhouses, or dungeons, or any other permutations of such. It is not just my thing. I’ve been many times to what many say is the best bathhouse in the world – Babylon in Bangkok – to just eat food and meet friends, and not to score. Maybe what Gabriel sees as the “negative energy” in the saunas is what I see too. I envy the people who can stay for hours and hours in the sauna, just watching hot guy after hot guy pass by.

But going to Brazil meant I had to make an exception. And I am glad I did. I thoroughly enjoyed myself at Rio’s equally legendary Club 117, after initial jitters. That’s where I met Gabriel. I preferred having sex with Gabriel in the condo after our first initial 117 roll in the hay, than in the seedy confines of the cabina, with a bed that has seen better days, and the TV that plays straight porn. Like everyone here I had my fears of bringing an unknown entity into my condo filled with my valuables, but Gabriel turned out to be an amazing find.

So after coffee with Thiago I head up back to room and tidy it up a bit, in case I come back from the sauna with a garoto. I give me myself a thorough silkwood shower, douche the hell out of my butt, just in case, and other things. As I towel myself dry I notice some bruising on my chest and shoulders where Thiago has held on to me in the throes of passion. He does like leaving battle scars. I put on some shorts and a light t-shirt, and put on my Havaianas, since I did not like using the slippers available in the sauna. I call an Uber and meet the car downstairs. It was a $4 fare:

 

I get to the address and see a non-descript façade:

 

I guess it was similar to Club 117. It was hard to tell from the outside what it was, and all the depravity that was taking place in its rooms (lol). As opposed to Sauna Mezzaninu, which had its name in the front. I get my locker key and I was in. I passed through the locker rooms and saw some customers, but didn’t bother changing into just a towel. I get to a room with some tables and a bar, and see a bunch of garotos intermingled with customers. The scene was very relaxed, and the garotos from the selection that I saw were all winners. One after another, stunners. This was good so far. What is not good? The stunners were with customers. Except for one. He was standing against the far wall, just surveying the land. He saw me staring at him.

I couldn’t help staring of course. And that was the point. I stared and stared. He checked many many boxes for me: tall (possibly over 6”2), handsome (nice manicured facial hair, light-ish eyes, Italian nose), muscular (really really muscular, I guess helped by steroids from the way the muscles were), hung (from what I can see, a giant bulge formed in front, towel covering). He smiled at me. Bingo. Amazing smile. He stretched out a giant arm toward me, motioning me to get closer. As I got closer, he got bigger and taller. Mountain man.

“Where you from?” he asked, automatically. I answered, in Portuguese, and I asked the same question back. He was relieved that I can speak Portuguese. Very little, I say, but passable. He said he thought I was from China. I tell him people in China think I am from China, so he was not alone. He leaned in closer, enough so I can get a whiff of him. He smelled really manly. He takes my hand and gets me to caress his torso. The musculature is very impressive. I certainly enjoyed running my hand there. He bounced his pecs when I squeeze a nipple. I laugh.

He seemed to be the embodiment of why men from all over the world flock to saunas to see. But I told him no, I have not even ventured 20 feet from the entrance. I have to go around the sauna first, to see what is out there. I had a personal rule. I always give myself 15 minutes before I can  decide on picking someone. Don’t fall in love with the first guy you see, no matter how perfect. So I walked away.

Lagoa seems like a maze. Lots of nooks and crannies here and there. The customers were all shapes, sizes and ages, the garotos ranged from super lean to super buff, black and white, young and some mature, and everything else in between. It was really like Disneyland in here, and the rides were up at the cabinas. I sat down and checked my phone for a while. Gabriel was safe and sound back in Sao Goncalo. His time with me seems like a long time ago, compared to where I was now.

I do a victory lap around the area. Some really amazing looking guys. I was close to approaching one or two. If I was in Club 117, those guys would have come up to me by now and said hi. Instead they waved at a distance. I nodded at their direction and soldiered on.

And then I see that initial guy again, this time sitting on a bench. He reached out to me again and asks how I was. I told him I was fine. I was just enjoying the view. And I was enjoying his view as well. I saw more of him. He had a very powerful back. His ass was insanely round and large through his towel. This guy is a physical specimen. He asked me what I was looking for. I told him what my preferences were. He said he was a top but can bottom for 200. I smiled and said maybe, and told him I’ll go see what is happening in other parts of the sauna. I wasn’t in a hurry. I squeezed his bicep and walked away.

After another 15 minutes of walking around and admiring, I thought I’d get a water. While I was waiting to order at the bar I identified about 5 guys who I’d consider doing a programa with. I might be ready to pull the trigger. And then I feel a large presence sneak up behind me. I turn around, it was him again. I laugh and ask if he wanted a drink. He said no and asked if I got anyone yet. I said no. He then tells me that he is a good kisser and gives me a sample. Man, that was a good kiss. That’s how you get me, with a kiss. I lay my hands on his biceps. Big and powerful. That sealed the deal. I tell him sure but for only 150. He agrees.

Persistence pays off with me every time.

We go to reception and he gets a room key. I follow him to a room. In the room he immediately hugs me and gives me a warm “obrigado!” That was nice. I ask what his name was. He gives me his nome de sauna, some ridiculous Anglo name that didn’t sound Brazilian. I laughed and remarked that that was not his real name. He said no, it wasn’t, but it’s a name that’s easy for foreigners to say. That made sense. He asks me if I needed to shower. I said no. He said he didn’t need to either. So we get on the bed and kiss for a while.

It was more than a while. He was an amazing kisser. That quality of kissing is reserved for lovers, but here I am getting ite from a garoto. I snap out of it, finally realizing that there were other delectable parts of him other than his mouth, so I put a hand on his crotch. I unwrap his towel to make sure. He was a monster. Really thick, respectable length, giant balls. He could destroy people with that thing. I told him as such. He said sometimes he has problems with clients who can’t take him. I told him he won’t be giving it to me. I’ll be giving it to him.

And so I did. Condoms, lots of lube. He took it pretty well. It took me a while to cum, because i gave my best to Gabriel and Thiago earlier today, but he is the persistent garoto, and he did his job, and I came in the condom. He asked if I wanted “gozar” I said yes. 50 reals? Sure, I say. So he jacks of with me still in him, until he comes on my tummy and chest. He came a lot. And from pulling the condom from my cock, so did I.

We shower together. We talk about things. He asked me about my trip so far. I told him it was my last night. I asked him where he lived, where he comes from, how long he has been working at the sauna. When we were done I ask him for his WhatsApp. While he keyed his number in my phone I asked him if he was open to visiting clients back in their hotels. He said “Sim,” and asked me if I wanted him to do that now. It was only 8:00 PM. Wanting to have my options open I tell him “agora nao,” but to text me when he is done with sauna later tonight to check to see how I feel.

He hands me back my phone. I needed a name for the WhatsApp contact. I ask him for his real name. I told him I am not going to key in that stupid name in WhatsApp. He laughed. He tells me his real name is Jonas. “Lindo,” I tell him. He looked liked a Jonas for sure. He agrees for me to take some photos of him, and he takes my phone and he takes some selfies with me as well. I give him 200 reals, as promised. He earned it. He rocked my world. He gives me one last kiss, one that ensures him of leaving a lasting impression on me.

It worked. No one will be able to top that kiss tonight. I am calling it a day. I pay for my cover and cabina and call an Uber. Back to Itaim Bibi.

But the night is not over, next.

[msclelovr]

Exciting post @numazu1 but in your excitement, you forgot to post those photos of Jonas. Please share.

[Riobard]

I He looked like a Jonas for sure I

He must get swallowed a lot.

[buttnovice]

don't tease us. . . .  pic please?  even if it's just a body pic of this god!

[numazu]

Day 9.5-10: Até mais, tchau tchau

I get back to the hotel with a feeling of accomplishment. I guess I could just average one sauna visit per trip and it would be fine. I’m good with that. I’ll be back in the country in 3 months anyway so I have time to try this again. And barely before I get situated in the room I get a WhatsApp message. It was Jonas, asking what I was doing and if he could go to my hotel. I thought about it for 5 minutes.  Should I troll for dick online or spend more time with hunky Lagoa boy? I asked him what was going to be his rate. He said the same as was in the sauna. So 200 reals. I asked him if he was going to stay overnight. He said yes and he said he can stay till after lunch. I asked if I could have unlimited sex with him. He said no problem. I was sold.

I told him I was available, and gave him the address for the hotel:

He said he was going to be there at 9:30 PM. Great. One hour to relax before I get bombarded by the famous Brazilian charm again. I calculated that with all the hours I spent in Brazil this trip, I only spent 10.2% of it all alone. And that included about 7 hours of sleep the first night. But then again, why spend any time alone when you can be in the presence of hotness 24/7. At 9:10 PM Jonas tells me he is on his way. At 9:40 PM he tells me he is at the lobby sitting. At 9:43 PM we were back in my room making out. That what the best part about him. The kissing. And there were so many good parts about him for sure.

There was no way in hell I’d go for a 4^th round right now having just cum my third load today two hours ago. instead, we eat. We go look for a nice restaurant near the hotel. We find the Braugarten Restaurante just 100 meters from the hotel. We order some steaks and beer. Over dinner, he asks me about how I came to learn Portuguese. I told him about my progress, and my goal to be fluent by December 2019. I told him the only reason I can speak Portuguese now is because (a) I was not relying on Google Translate and being forced to talk and (b) I am talking to native speakers. The minute I set foot in California, I knew the Portuguese immersion will be over and I will forget everything I learned. I told him that I learn more about Portuguese from him and Gabriel, two people who didn’t know a lot of English, and not from people like Marcos who were fluent in English and there was less pressure to speak in straight Portguese.

We talk about him and his origins. He was a student, just trying to earn money for school through the sauna. He had just about a month working in Lagoa, having worked in the Rio saunas mostly. He said he was from Recife, and would go every once in a while to visit his family. I told him about my “visit every state in Brazil” project, and Pernambuco is a state I have not been to yet. He offered to go with me and to show me around. I asked him if there were garoto saunas in Recife. He said there were a few. I asked if he could go with me and help me fucking the boys. He said that would be fun. I was beginning to like him.

So we make plans about me going on a side trip in my December trip to Recife. I pay the bill and it was 145 reals ($41). We go back to the room and cuddle. After a while it was inevitable of course. In the presence of such perfection one cannot help oneself. I fuck him again, he cums again. He tries fucking me but he was simply too big. I cum for the fourth time today. We sleep soundly. We have breakfast in the morning (Mcdonalds, don’t hate me). We make out a few more moments but don’t have sex. I give him his 200. I get him an Uber back to his apartment (20 reals). I pack. I take an Uber to GRU. Another successful trip.

Jonas keeps in touch as promised. Not as much as Gabriel but it was still nice. He asks me when will I be in BRazil next. I tell him I plan on doing a Belo Horizonte and Rio trip in September. He tells me he wants to go to Rio to see me. I ask how much. He said he does not need payment, just a trip:

 

Two days later I understand why he was offering a freebie.

 

He wants to send me $1000 to buy some clothes in the USA in the Outlets here. This was an interesting turn of events. I say yes of course. Let’s see if he really does send me the money in August before my trip.

That’s all folks.

 

Bonus Topic: The Monger Index

Since Jonas was able to do both short sauna sex and a longer overnight stay with sex with me, I thought I’d put this into my “Monger Index.” It’s a metric me and a buddy of mine came up with while super drunk at the Crowne Plaza Bangkok at 3 AM in the morning years ago. He asked me why I get all these prostitutes overseas. With the airfare and hotel rooms, that cost adds up. Wouldn’t it be just cheaper to hire prostitutes back home?

I told him he was crazy because (a) the prostitutes are expensive back home and (b) sex is more fun when on vacation anyway. But I disputed his thesis that it is cheaper to hire prostitutes back home. So I came up with an index that measures how much cheaper it is to get hot guys overseas than in the USA, accounting got airfare and lodging costs.

Some assumptions:

(1)    Time Range: The index would not work in measuring one-offs. Of course ONE prostitute would be cheaper in the USA than ONE prostitute in Brazil. A $250 an hour prostitute you hire for one hour to take home to your USA house is cheaper than a $35 sauna boy you get in your cabina at the sauna if you add the $1000 roundtrip airfare one needs to get to the sauna, plus the hotel cost.
           It will only work if you hire by bulk, and have a longer time range. My assumption for this index example is one week, or 7 days. For example, if you get one guy every day in a week in the USA, that adds up to 7*$250 = $1750. Now we are talking bigger dollars. Have sex in bulk when overseas helps you recoup your cost.

(2)    Airfare: The index should include the airfare. For my purposes here, I use airfare coming from California, because that's where I live. So for example, a typical off-season RT air ticket to Sao Paulo is $1000. For Bangkok, it’s $550. This is a fixed cost in the index.

(3)    Hotel: Of course you have to assume you are getting a hotel in the city you are mongering in. I assume my hotels will be typical AirBNB’s, with basic amenities in a decent and nearby neighborhood. Translation: not a dump but not fancy, and Uberable to the sauna and tourist-friendly services. For Sao Paulo I assume of the cost, the AirBNB me and the BF got in Bela Vista last December. It was a decent $50 a night. For 7 nights that adds up to $350.

(4)    Overnights: I put in the calculation the cost it takes for hiring a guy overnight. For California, a typical overnight with a hot but not “superstar porn star” hot is $1000. For Sao Paulo, Jonas’ example was 200 reals, but I count his initial 200 reals in the sauna as part of the overnight, so 200+200 = 400 reals, or $104.

So here are the gross calcs. For 7 days, if I hired a boy for one hour and another boy for overnight every day:

California Prostitute: Price for one hour times 7 + Price for an overnight times 7 = $250*7 + $1000*7 = $8750

Sao Paulo Garoto (Jonas): Airfare + 7 nights in AirBNB + Price for a garoto in the sauna times 7 + Price for a garoto overnight times 7 = $1000 + $350 + $52*7 + $104*7 = $2442

The index is calculated as the ratio of the 7-day cost of USA boys, divided by the Sao Paulo boys.

7-day Monger Index for Sao Paulo = $8750/$2442 = 3.58

Issues:

(1)    I do not count the Uber cost to get to the sauna, or the entrance fee for the sauna, or the cabina price

(2)    I do not account for food costs. Of course you have to eat whether in the USA or Brazil. This may be a future improvement to be added.

(3)    The airfare is just from California, maybe it’s more or less where you are. Maybe my assumption of $1000 is too much or too little. This is just what I see anecdotally.

So, with that, here are my Monger Indices for some 6 cities I’ve been to, ranked by the best to worst:

1.       Pattaya, Thailand: 5.54

2.       Bangkok, Thailand: 4.70

3.       Mexico City, Mexico: 4.53

4.       Bogota, Colombia: 3.77

5.       Sao Paulo, Brazil: 3.58

6.       Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: 3.44

These are solely based on my experience. Your Monger Index may be different.

Some observations:

(1)    Thailand remains the most bang for your buck, because of the presence of cheap decent places to stay in and low cost to fly there from California.

(2)    Mexico is helped by the fact that it’s so close to California, therefore the airfare is cheap.

(3)    Brazil on the other hand, is dinged by how expensive the airfares are from California.

(4)    If I factor in food, Thailand may even get a higher index, and Brazil may get a lower index.

(5)    Grindr prices were only used in Bogota and Mexico, because I do not have experiences getting anyone there outside of Grindr. So your mileage may vary.

(6)    Quality of boys is impossible to measure. And it is subjective, so it can’t be put in the index. The index is solely a quantitative metric. For example, twinks may be better in Thailand. Adonises may be better in Brazil. Again, quality is subjective, and can’t be measured meaningfully.

Of course, in the end, your mileage may vary, and these indices are only meaningful to me. If you don’t like having sex with Asians, your Monger Index for Thailand is -1000000, for example.

-The End-

[floridarob]

FINALLY,  the index.

Thailand has benefits but the stupid drama (and hypocritical culture) and how many Farang's "fall in love" (when they are only a walking ATM)  ....Sex can not be beat in Brasil, IMHO.

All are great places for one thing or another, but give the gold medal where it is due!