Let's be completely honest with ourselves, are we influenced

[Guest George]

I was told the owner brought in 2 van loads of new faces from Issan to stock his 2 bars. I don't know if this is accurate or legend but heard it from 2 different sources. If only the Sunee Scoop Reporter was there to keep us all informed.

 

I have a feeling that the Sunee Scoop Reporter shall return. Do you think the masses want to hear what he has to say?

 

I hope that the moderators will forgive me for taking the above quotes from the; "New Bar Opening Tonight in Sunee Plaza thread and then, starting a new one with them here. My sole reason for doing so is that my post here, has nothing to do with the opening of that particular bar. It instead concerns something completely different and the subject I have raised in it, is one where I will be very interested to learn what the opinions of the members here are, in regard to it.

 

I have seen mention of the "Sunee Scoop Reporter", not only in the above quoted thread, but in a couple of others as well. As a new member here, I was wondering just who this "Sunee Scoop Reporter", actually is. Not knowing his identity, nor having seen any of his reports in regard to Sunee, I am obviously unable to comment on him. However, having seen so called "Sunee Scoop Reporters" on other forums since my introduction into the World of Gay Message Forums just under two years ago, I am intrigued as to why the one here, seems to be so highly thought of.

 

My reason for stating the above, is because my own experiences of reading such reports by these self appointed so called "Sunee Scoop Reporters" on bar openings, along with what is, has and going to be happening in Sunee, has in the main been pure unadulterated crap in my opinion, because of what I have considered to be their biased opinion.

 

I have also witnessed first hand on two counts believe it or not, where one bar was irreparably damaged as a result of biased reporting, as well as where a grossly unfair and negative review of one particular bar was unashamedly given, for the sole reason that the "reporter" doing the review, bore a really bad grudge against the bars new owner, because of some bad blood having been spilled by the two of them, a few years previously.

 

It has always amazed me, that some members of the Gay Community go into some bars, yet never consider going into others, purely as a result of a report they have read on one of the forums, which at the end of the day, is based purely on the opinion of one guy.

 

Some of the bars that I have been told by these "Sunee Scoop Reporters" are "no good whatsoever and to be avoided at all costs", have in some cases been ones where I have had some absolutely great nights and some they have encouraged me to visit, by saying: "When in Sunee this bar is a must to have on your list of places to definitely check out", have been among some of the poorest I have ever been to, as well as having the worst selection of "boys" I have ever seen also.

 

Surely the most obvious reason for this, is that our individual tastes are all different and a particular bar that one guy loves, will be the very same bar that another will hate. I believe that we need to check out both host and go go bars for ourselves and make up our own minds, as to whether or not they appeal to us, in exactly the same way that GB did the other night when he visited a certain bar in Sunee.

 

There is only one person and one person alone, that is going to determine whether or not I go and check a bar out and that person is me. Don't get me wrong, I am not against anyone giving their opinions on a venue, but I guess the biggest reason for what could be construed as a mini rant on my part, is that as someone that checks out things for himself, I seem to be in the minority of gay forum members, as opposed to the majority which to be perfectly honest with you all, is something I find kind of surprising. So what do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

 

 

George.

[Guest joseph44]

I think thst you're absolutely right George.

But I always read these reports and take them for granted.

 

I could report on numerous bars and venues about being bad or good, but that's MY opinion.

 

There are bars, I would never visit anymore because I don't like them, but who am I.

 

BTW Redgy's Place is sold as from today. The new owner is the same owner as Festival in Jomtien and will continue immdiately.

Thanks Redgy and good luck 'farming'.

 

[Gaybutton]

As a new member here, I was wondering just who this "Sunee Scoop Reporter", actually is.

 

Geroge, I really don't want to get into this. Please suffice it to say it was a person who self-proclaimed that title and for various reasons is no longer permitted to post on this web site. Let's just leave it at that.

[Guest topjohn5]

"Let's be completely honest with ourselves...."

What's the fun in that George, lol ??? (see you soon!)

[PattayaMale]

As GB requests I will leave out the idea of scoop reporter, but would like to comment on the other point that George makes about others reporting their views.

 

I wish more people would report how they found their trip to different entertainment places as well as restaurants and tourist places because I have gotten some good ideas of places to go and things to do. As probably everyone has experienced, sometimes I go to a place that had a good review and say to myself, "Why did xxx think this was so good?"

 

Some people may have an axe to grind or be an owner promoting their own venue without revealing they are the owner, but soon enough people can see that pattern. One person's advice I usually take is GB when it comes to places to eat. I usually try his suggestions and more often than not agree with him.

 

There was another poster who felt his restaurant had a very good product. I tried it, disagreed, made a honest appraisal from my point of view on a forum and let people decide for themselves.

 

I remember a bartender that had heard from one customer that a city was great. Another would say that same city sucked. He said it always depends on if you got a good lay.

[Guest George]

Geroge, I really don't want to get into this. Please suffice it to say it was a person who self-proclaimed that title and for various reasons is no longer permitted to post on this web site. Let's just leave it at that.

 

Thanks for your reply GB. I am well aware of who the person is that you refer to above, but genuinely believed that another "Sunee Scoop Reporter", existed here on this forum, Buddha forbid hey.

 

It was never my intention to cause any controversy by my post, just a genuine interest and curiosity as to who this person was, so now I know that no such person exists here, please feel free to close this thread should you so wish.

 

 

Thanks again GB,

 

 

George.

 

[Guest MonkeySee]

I think thst you're absolutely right George.

But I always read these reports and take them for granted.

I could report on numerous bars and venues about being bad or good, but that's MY opinion.

There are bars, I would never visit anymore because I don't like them, but who am I.

You are so right joseph/george, it is only an opinion. Since bars change so rapidly, it may be fabulous one night and the next night half the boys do not show and it is terrible. Same with a restaurant, the chef may decide to go home or the wait staff may be short making the dining experience different day from day. Or just differences in preferences like the smoking issue or the music volume will sway a report. I like to read all the reports and judge for myself.

 

[Guest]

Geroge, I really don't want to get into this. Please suffice it to say it was a person who self-proclaimed that title and for various reasons is no longer permitted to post on this web site. Let's just leave it at that.

 

Well, actually anyone can post on this board. Some are on permanent moderated status which means a moderator has to review any posts they make.

 

The person that you refer to GayButton was asked by me not to post any more under his handle. As a favor to me, he complied. I don't think anyone should assume that he does not post here or other boards under different handles. There is no way for me or you or anyone else to know if he is still posting here under a different handle. I know I personally do not take the time to vet every possible newbie as to their true identity. This board is not the Presidential transition team and we don't ask for references and names of a new posters husbands financial donors in order to be on the team. Who would have time for that? Life is too short and there is too many other distractions in the LOS.

 

Thanks for your reply GB. I am well aware of who the person is that you refer to above, but genuinely believed that another "Sunee Scoop Reporter", existed here on this forum, Buddha forbid hey.

 

It was never my intention to cause any controversy by my post, just a genuine interest and curiosity as to who this person was

 

No need to worry George. No controversy at all. You have every right to ask this question. We don't close threads just because someone doesn't like the topic.

 

There is more than one self-proclaimed Scoop Reporter. There is one for the Pattaya Gay Weekly, one on SGT and TT. They have all said in the past they are the best at getting all the scoops.

 

Truth be told, I much prefer GayButton's scoops to anyone's as he verifies his sources and checks on things before he posts. The others do not. Anyone can sit in a beer bar and post the latest gossip. They may get it right part of the time and wrong part of the time. GB usually gets it right but the reason is that he checks on things before making a post about it. That is real reporting IMHO.

[Gaybutton]

GB usually gets it right

 

I appreciate that. Emphasis on the word "usually." There have been times when I've gotten it wrong. The difference between me and some others is that when I do get it wrong, I admit it on the board and publicly apologize if my erroneous information caused anyone inconvenience. There are certain other so-called "scoop reporters" who have gotten plenty wrong, but so far have never apologized for anything at all or even admitted a mistake.

 

Also, just for the record, I do not seek out "scoops." I don't think anyone has ever seen a post by me in which I called it a "scoop." It was simply that by sheer chance I found out something and merely happened to be the first to post about it.

[Guest MonkeySee]

No need to worry George. No controversy at all. You have every right to ask this question. We don't close threads just because someone doesn't like the topic.

I am glad to see this. I do not care for censorship. I think everything should be discussed in a fair and open forum, just so long as it causes no harm. Although the Pattaya Scoop Reporter had many detractors, I always found his posts informative and entertaining. I think his grammar and spelling, that irritated some, was do to his late night posting after a few cocktails. In my opinion, the members benefit from the competition of "out-scooping" each other.