The Sao Paulo diaries

[likeohmygod]

1 hour ago, RA1 said:

A Brazilian airline pilot?  

Best regards,

RA1

Yeah... The salary is around R$ 9/12k including benefits. 

[sanddunes]

It’s always funny how the sauna guys are watching who goes with who...and afterwards they come up and want to know how it was with their friend..

Some try to sniff out who was activo or pasivo, and which positions you did with them.  

If a guy was pasivo with me, obviously I don’t tell his friends that.

Others want to know, who is better in bed, friend A or friend B.

Their curiosity is amusing...and sometimes it is clear they have already gotten a full report from the garoto exactly what happened and how much you paid..

I told one garoto I liked morenos and suddenly every guy in the whole place was introducing me to their moreno friends.

Another garoto who I had never talked to before said he knew I liked x, y and z positions and didn’t like “los  cuatros” (doggy style) as much

[Riobard]

Boot camp for them, booty camp for us. Camp all around.

[SolaceSoul]

5 minutes ago, sanddunes said:

It’s always funny how the sauna guys are watching who goes with who...and afterwards they come up and want to know how it was with their friend..

Some try to sniff out who was activo or pasivo, and which positions you did with them.  

If a guy was pasivo with me, obviously I don’t tell his friends that.

Their curiosity is amusing...and sometimes it is clear they have already gotten a full report from the garoto exactly what happened and how much you paid..

I told one garoto I liked morenos and suddenly every guy in the whole place was introdicing me to their moreno friends..

It’s fun to witness you discover these things like a child opening Christmas gifts for the very first time.

A rule: the GPs lurk. The GPs also gossip. Some gossip with, share with and learn from other, while others prefer to keep the info that they gleaned and learned for their own personal benefit. Now, that you discovered this, act accordingly, and hopefully, you will be circumspect and strategic and what you say to them and publicly (as in in the main sauna rooms) do.

A corollary: in case you didn’t know, clients also lurk. And gossip. Not only about the garotos to other garotos and clients, but also about other clients to other clients and garotos. If this matters to you, then it is doubly important to be circumspect with what you say and do with all parties there. 

[sanddunes]

I’ve noticed being friends with well known/important local clients causes the garotos to treat you much differently and better.  

I became friends with two of the regulars at 202, who introduced me to certain guys (they were friends with and/or had slept with all of them).  I never had even one bad programa there.  The guys seemed much more eager to make sure I had a good time.

On the other hand at 117 I got started on the wrong foot with a guy jacking up a rate after the fact, and then had a string of bad programas one after the next...

[likeohmygod]

Yep...it is always a good idea to get a local friend

[Riobard]

Early on, before I finetuned my sea legs, I answered the inevitable de onde question by saying Grécia. Of course nobody questioned it or got the economic crisis nuance. They may have thought I was a GOT groupie or an Onassis, if not an exotic moneyed Athenian. I was naïve about the dollars and sense. 

They need to know in simple terms what to make of you, with a very small number of multiple-choice check boxes. Their first impressions can stick like crazy glue. The advice here is so very valuable for managing that piece, IF you care to. It usually comes down to your financial resources. As oft repeated here, their stage presence supercedes your rep. 

[RA1]

7 hours ago, likeohmygod said:

Yeah... The salary is around R$ 9/12k including benefits. 

Thanks for the reply.  Wow, any US airline pilot, including those just hired, make a good deal more than that.  

Best regards,

RA1

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, Riobard said:

Early on, before I finetuned my sea legs, I answered the inevitable de onde question by saying Grécia. Of course nobody questioned it or got the economic crisis nuance. They may have thought I was a GOT groupie or an Onassis, if not an exotic moneyed Athenian. I was naïve about the dollars and sense. 

 

So you confuse them as well as us.....lol

[Riobard]

4 minutes ago, floridarob said:

So you confuse them as well as us.....lol

I am going to have to have to give you this one !!!!! You certainly pulled that zinger out of the 'gator swamp. SNAP!  You exhibited reptilian patience and Cap'n Hook'd moi.     LMAO

[Tartegogo]

What is GOT?

[sanddunes]

So tonight is karoke tonight at Lagoa, and it’s about as excruciating as one might expect.

One amusing moment occurred as an older gentleman belted out “Give me one moment in time, when I’m more than I thought I could be..” as his towel fell off in slow motion, much to his horror, and everyone else’s too..

[Riobard]

Just now, Tartegogo said:

What is GOT?

Think fuckin' big flying scorched-earth reptiles ... in places that often look like Greece or sound like PTG translations of that area. Well, OK, middle earth sounding.

[Riobard]

3 minutes ago, sanddunes said:

So tonight is karoke tonight at Lagoa, and it’s about as excruciating as one might expect.

One amusing moment occurred as an older gentleman belted out “Give me one moment in time, when I’m more than I thought I could be..” as his towel fell off in slow motion, much to his horror, and everyone else’s too..

Less Karaoke, more Bukakke is the lipsynch Rodolfo needs to hear. Pearls not towels.

[Tartegogo]

1 hour ago, Riobard said:

Think fuckin' big flying scorched-earth reptiles ... in places that often look like Greece or sound like PTG translations of that area. Well, OK, middle earth sounding.

You say “Grecia” and they think game of thrones?

[Riobard]

1 hour ago, Tartegogo said:

You say “Grecia” and they think game of thrones?

Literary license ... hahahahaha ... maybe I applied at the wrong wicket.

But the counter has closed because the train derailed before leaving the station.

Who wants to call it. I can call it ... time of death 21:45 EDT.

oopsie, wrong thread ... partially resuscitate!

[sanddunes]

Fridays are always good at Lagoa, and tonight was no exception.

When I arrived I saw Guillherme, who came over and reported that he had been robbed at gunpoint two days ago in the Centro.  He claims the robber took his phone and the little bit of cash he had on him.

I was skeptical.  Certainly robberies happen often in Sao Paulo, but it could also be a play for sympathy.  I wasn’t sure what to believe...

I went upstairs to the porn room and encountered a slender, toned boy by the name of Eduardo.  He had a cute face, and a shy smile because of the braces he had on.  I would estimate he is around 21.

It’s strange how thin guys can have sometimes have such large, thick cocks.  He was fully erect, and invited me to feel just how hard he was.  

He claimed he hadn’t cum in 2 weeks - clearly, this was an exaggeration.  2 hours would probably be more accurate.

I asked what he liked...”tudo” he said.  He was great in bed.  Clean, tight ass, and stayed hard the whole time he was riding me...

I decided to eat and get a beer with Guilherme later.  He knows a lot about the other garotos and is a good source of information.  While eating with him, a transgender client approached and had a discussion with Guilherme, who announced that she wanted to have a 3some with me and him.  No details were discussed whether she was pre or post op, or who would he sticking what where (a surprising number of trans girls in Brazil claim to be tops).  I politely declined the invitation...

[sanddunes]

Befriending a garoto opens up a whole new insight into the sauna world.

I listened with interest and amusement as my insider friend spilled the tea about the cast of characters at Lagoa.

There is the garoto who was recently dumped by a long-term sugar daddy, and is resentful at having to once again fuck “gordos and cheapos”

The garoto who has three different kids by three different women

The garoto who has starred in several porn movies, but never actually became a porn “star”

The garoto who recently got out of jail

The garoto whose wife still thinks he is a “bartender”

The garoto who won “biggest dick in Sao Paulo” a while back

The garoto who swore he would only work there a week, but is still here ten years later..

[mvan1]

2 hours ago, sanddunes said:

Befriending a garoto opens up a whole new insight into the sauna world.

I listened with interest and amusement as my insider friend spilled the tea about the cast of characters at Lagoa.

There is the garoto who was recently dumped by a long-term sugar daddy, and is resentful at having to once again fuck “gordos and cheapos”

 

Then there are the few garotos we meet at the saunas with whom we develop "a connection" that can be long lasting (not forever, but longer than just a one-time thing in a sauna or hourly hotel).  

I have traveled to Brazil countless times.  Even though I met and still meet lots of different garotos in the saunas and elsewhere in Brazil, there is that "special" garoto that comes along every now and again whereby a "connection" just happens. 

I do not mean a garoto to love.  I mean a garoto that includes compatible sex along with a genuine friendship and affection.  

These type of arrangements are rare but  do happen.

There are few things more exciting and enjoyable than having a handsome compatible garoto as a regular thing while in Brazil.   

Equally so is taking a handsome compatible garoto to a foreign country for a vacation.   I have done that several times.  

Under usual circumstances, Brazilian garotos cannot get a visa to visit the U.S.

Nor can they usually afford to experience traveling to Europe (or any other place).   

Brazilians can visit Europe without a visa as well as several other countries.  They only need a valid passport.  

Travel changes people, often for the better.  

Travel is an education, all in itself.   

Yes, “Befriending a garoto opens up a whole new insight into the sauna world.” - sometimes - 

 

 

 

[likeohmygod]

I a not very experienced in lagoa.... Where is the porn room? 

The garoto who won “biggest dick in Sao Paulo” a while back

Come on.. Tell us the name. My ass needs to know. 

[SolaceSoul]

3 hours ago, sanddunes said:

Befriending a garoto opens up a whole new insight into the sauna world.

I listened with interest and amusement as my insider friend spilled the tea about the cast of characters at Lagoa.

There is the garoto who was recently dumped by a long-term sugar daddy, and is resentful at having to once again fuck “gordos and cheapos”

The garoto who has three different kids by three different women

The garoto who has starred in several porn movies, but never actually became a porn “star”

The garoto who recently got out of jail

The garoto whose wife still thinks he is a “bartender”

The garoto who won “biggest dick in Sao Paulo” a while back

The garoto who swore he would only work there a week, but is still here ten years later..

It can be fun to listen to and share the gossip. Just remember that, just as he is spilling other garotos’ tea With you, most certainly he is spelling and inquiring about your tea to other gossipy garotos and clients. Act accordingly.

[torogen]

On 4/22/2018 at 11:42 PM, sanddunes said:

Nobody described it as being the giant blackout-dark, dirty sauna that it is.  Although most saunas have dark rooms, here the entire place, even the locker rooms are dark.  The few lights they do have in the place are small red lightbulbs.  It felt like a weird sex dungeon.

Wild Thermas is apparently also very dark, and someone told me on Sundays it is mandatory to be nude there (no towels allowed).

I visited Chili Peppers in March, and the locker room was as bright as day. Most of the first floor was fairly well-lit. It was easy to see people in the bar area and around the pool and hot tub. Only dark upstairs. Perhaps you went on a "blackout" night? That is something that is done at other saunas. Despite the somewhat dirty environs, it was far cleaner than other non-garoto saunas I have visited in Brazil, with the exception of Rio G Spa in Ipanema, which was very clean.

I did visit Wild Thermas on a Sunday, at the recommendation of a Paulistano friend. It was mostly bear and daddy/average types, and almost all of the action took place in the (extremely crowded) dark room. I'm not a fan of dark room action, so I'll just say the place wasn't for me.

[sanddunes]

Walking into the seedy underworld of Bar Fama, it’s clear this is not A List: Sao Paulo.  More like My Life on the D List.  

A trans-woman stands in one corner suggestively rubbing her nipple.  To her side, a hustler with a skinny body and busted face rubs what appears to be an enormous dick through gym shorts.  A large bin of condoms sits prominently on the bar.  

Various shady characters are roaming about.  Occasional gurgling noises can be heard coming from behind the black curtain towards the entrance.  I am unable to find the mythical blow-job railing, despite a thorough search.  

A drag queen is wearing an outfit I would describe as “homeless chic” and spastically dancing/having a seizure to an old showtune.  

I ask one hustler how much he wants: 30 reals for a blowjob.  Certainly, this is not a place for those with high ambitions.  

Although the price is right, I’m not horny enough to suck a dick in a dirty bathroom, and there is already a trans-woman being serviced behind the black curtain by a hustler with a noticeable belly.    

I hadn’t seen any of these hustlers at the saunas, and at least one was noticeably high.  To be fair, there were at least two (kind of) cute ones.  

Entrance was 30 reals which includes 20 reals worth of consumption.  I went on Saturday night around 1am.  It was interesting to visit, but I won’t return.  Those who like rough trade might enjoy it here...

[sanddunes]

Walking into the seedy underworld of Bar Fama, it’s clear this is not A List: Sao Paulo.  More like My Life on the D List.  

A trans-woman stands in one corner suggestively rubbing her nipple.  To her side, a hustler with a skinny body and busted face rubs what appears to be an enormous dick through gym shorts.  A large bin of condoms sits prominently on the bar.  

Various shady characters are roaming about.  Occasional gurgling noises can be heard coming from behind the black curtain towards the entrance.  I am unable to find the mythical blow-job railing, despite a thorough search.  

A drag queen is wearing an outfit I would describe as “homeless chic” and spastically dancing/having a seizure to an old showtune.  

I ask one hustler how much he wants: 30 reals for a blowjob.  Certainly, this is not a place for those with high ambitions.  

Although the price is right, I’m not horny enough to suck a dick in a dirty bathroom, and there is already a trans-woman being serviced behind the black curtain by a hustler with a noticeable belly.    

I hadn’t seen any of these hustlers at the saunas, and at least one was noticeably high.  To be fair, there were at least two (kind of) cute ones.  

Entrance was 30 reals which includes 20 reals worth of consumption.  I went on Saturday night around 1am.  It was interesting to visit, but I won’t return.  Those who like rough trade might enjoy it here...

[sanddunes]

Walking into the seedy underworld of Bar Fama, it’s clear this is not A List: Sao Paulo.  More like My Life on the D List.  

A trans-woman stands in one corner suggestively rubbing her nipple.  To her side, a hustler with a skinny body and busted face rubs what appears to be an enormous dick through gym shorts.  A large bin of condoms sits prominently on the bar.  

Various shady characters are roaming about.  Occasional gurgling noises can be heard coming from behind the black curtain towards the entrance.  I am unable to find the mythical blow-job railing, despite a thorough search.  

A drag queen is wearing an outfit I would describe as “homeless chic” and spastically dancing/having a seizure to an old showtune.  

I ask one hustler how much he wants: 30 reals for a blowjob.  Certainly, this is not a place for those with high ambitions.  

Although the price is right, I’m not horny enough to suck a dick in a dirty bathroom, and there is already a trans-woman being serviced behind the black curtain by a hustler with a noticeable belly.    

I hadn’t seen any of these hustlers at the saunas, and at least one was noticeably high.  To be fair, there were at least two (kind of) cute ones.  

Entrance was 30 reals which includes 20 reals worth of consumption.  I went on Saturday night around 1am.  It was interesting to visit, but I won’t return.  Those who like rough trade might enjoy it here...