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I am not going to hold my breath for a wave to come along that wants to legalize prostitution, especially given the masterful way they've painted it as always being linked to sex trafficking.  

Sodomy was different as it was being badly abused and basically came down to (in some states) enforcing missionary-only and husband and wife only--everything else was selective prosecution and it was courts that started to act first, right?  I'd say courts are the best hope here but those few who have been appointed lately lean conservative (but also libertarian...).  

At the same time I want it to be big news every time one of the politicians who supported this tack get caught hiring--and they should be asked about the children they must've harmed in the process!  

That photo reminds me, how long until www.seekingarrangement.com is targeted?  

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And little more than a decade previous to gay marriage legalization one-third (!) of the Supreme Court justices voted against rolling back sodomy law. (I neglected to mention earlier.) Many of us will not see commercial sex decriminalized in our lifetime. 

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As well, a central basis for sponsoring a foreign national same-sex spouse is evidence that oodles of conjugal cornholing occurs!!!! Stupidity is truly our undoing. 

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10 minutes ago, Riobard said:

As well, a central basis for sponsoring a foreign national same-sex spouse is evidence that oodles of conjugal cornholing occurs!!!! Stupidity is truly our undoing. 

huh?

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Internal contradiction: shortsighted support for sodomy criminalization positioned in tandem with sodomy (conjugal intimacy) as a requirement to verify same-sex couple definitional criteria for immigration purposes. 

Sorry ... cannot make it any gomorrah clear than that. 

Sexually green couple? Green card more out of reach.

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19 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Recall that a -- very conservative -- US District Judge (can't recall which District) -- just last month asked, very seriously, in a prostitution case:

'Please tell me why an act that, when legal delivered free, becomes a crime when delivered for pay?'

Love the quote, but his insightful logic is up against the legally formalized counterargument that central to the ills of commercial sex and its definition is that clients are solicited indiscriminantly. Nonpaid hook-ups come with more discretionary and empowered selectivity, notwithstanding that providers have the prerogative of client selectivity. But again, conflict theory repudiates the notion that female sex workers' screening methods are analogous to the choice factor intrinsic to noncompensated sex.

Just another illiustration of the challenges to dismantling vice law and its theoretical underpinnings. 

If my life depended on winning the debate in these times I might take the criminalization position, antithetical to my values. 

None of this impacts much on me ... I average a day per year on U.S. soil, but I am somewhat riveted.

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No one's talking about criminalization of sodomy. Not yet. 

Pence is talking about rounding us all up for shock therapy, but he's not president. Not yet. 

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Sodomy decriminalization is secure. Was just an example of what M2M commercial sex is up against legally, attitudes and what not. It might help if we neutralized our terms to dissociate from the male-female commercial sex spectrum. Eg, Our hires are, simply, "men". 

More than straight men, we (myself included) excitedly use reference terms that highlight the physiological aspects of intimacy surrogacy. We might consider altering our language choices so they sound less objectifying and genitally focused. These habits only perpetuate being dumped into the same soup as commercial sex at large. 

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8 hours ago, tassojunior said:

No one's talking about criminalization of sodomy. Not yet. 

Pence is talking about rounding us all up for shock therapy, but he's not president. Not yet. 

Also:

Just wait til we get the money together to get K Street on our side.

:devil:

Ze battle haz just begun!

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Unfortunately, there was underage pimping going on with CL and BP and that was the genesis of this new law. I know folks prominent in NGOs dealing with recovering sex workers, so I can state with certainty, whether it will be believed by some or not.

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52 minutes ago, boiworship said:

Unfortunately, there was underage pimping going on with CL and BP and that was the genesis of this new law. I know folks prominent in NGOs dealing with recovering sex workers, so I can state with certainty, whether it will be believed by some or not.

In the U.S.?

I swam in those waters, and never encountered an underage provider. (And I know fairly well the warning lights.)

 

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Interesting observation over at the "OTHER" site.   When you get to the home page,  you can still access REVIEWS, HOWEVER the link to the FORUM page has been removed. 

 Perhaps I was permanently Banned from accessing the site , but I would have though access to the Reviews would have been included ?    And the "donation" link is still active.  Considering current govt scrutiny, I just found it Odd the FORUM would disappear

But like I said, maybe it just disappeared for ME ?  .  :o

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5 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Interesting observation over at the "OTHER" site.   When you get to the home page,  you can still access REVIEWS, HOWEVER the link to the FORUM page has been removed. 

 Perhaps I was permanently Banned from accessing the site , but I would have though access to the Reviews would have been included ?    And the "donation" link is still active.  Considering current govt scrutiny, I just found it Odd the FORUM would disappear

But like I said, maybe it just disappeared for ME ?  .  :o

They are both there, just no links between the 2.

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Apples oranges.

Msgforum and reviews were already segregated and the only difference now is no convenient e-link. It is merely coincidental the reciprocal tabs were just removed, and the administrator described reasons related to whose views opinions represent. Removing the links does not transcend liability. However, admin will now be mindful of SESTA/FESTA compliance for both siblings. I would not be surprised if members' posts of ad links will draw more attention to ad sites and face restrictions. Admin needs to decide between compliance and activism. I do not think admin has the chops for one particular of those two tactics.

Romeo was already in compliance across the board with jurisdictional legal regulations. The two siblings are now segregated by company delineation, with unidirectional e-link accessible within certain classes of devices. Romeo had a philanthropic foundation component added some years following its launch. Since grants are bequeathed to LGBTQ causes and commercial intimacy providers fundamentally contribute to the overall capital, it made sense to divest and separate HUNQZ to a reduced Siamese state, but not because commercial sex is prohibited in the Montague homestead. In addition, since third party monitoring of fraud/scam activity is more relevant to human services marketing, separate terms of reference liberating HUNQZ to override privacy in that regard made the most sense. This is my take. 

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13 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

Come on guys. This gives them 2 different sites to ask for money. Can you help?  Donate now!

Kinda clever, NO ?  B)

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46 minutes ago, Riobard said:

Apples oranges.

Msgforum and reviews were already segregated and the only difference now is no convenient e-link. It is merely coincidental the reciprocal tabs were just removed, and the administrator described reasons related to whose views opinions represent. Removing the links does not transcend liability. However, admin will now be mindful of SESTA/FESTA compliance for both siblings. I would not be surprised if members' posts of ad links will draw more attention to ad sites and face restrictions. Admin needs to decide between compliance and activism. I do not think admin has the chops for one particular of those two tactics

Romeo was already in compliance across the board with jurisdictional legal regulations. The two siblings are now segregated by company delineation, with unidirectional e-link accessible within certain classes of devices. Romeo had a philanthropic foundation component added some years following its launch. Since grants are bequeathed to LGBTQ causes and commercial intimacy providers fundamentally contribute to the overall capital, it made sense to divest and separate HUNQZ to a reduced Siamese state, but not because commercial sex is prohibited in the Montague homestead. In addition, since third party monitoring of fraud/scam activity is more relevant to human services marketing, separate terms of reference liberating HUNQZ to override privacy in that regard made the most sense. This is my take. 

Mr Rio, thank you for your robust explanation.  I truly hope Daddy has you on HIS payroll ?   You are an outstanding asset....And I'll bet you are even much prettier than Sarah Huckabee Sanders ?

Never-the=less....The Palm springs welcoming committee is already engaged and in Full force, the air-kisses are blowing..... Daddy's Inferno weekend is under way, and Viagras are being popped like Skittles.....  Enjoy everyone ! 

 

"Hey Toots, did you Give Daddy your Donation yet ? "

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"Can WE at least get acquainted FIRST ... we just got here. ? "

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Kkkkk ... Sucky, I am no friend of the GUY you call Daddy but some folks call Nutter ... I have no clue why any negative term, in the fondest of ways of course. I am banned there. Kneejerk babyish overreactivity the reason. His or mine? You be the judge.

I have subzero interest in any stream of income benefitting anyone over there. He already has the stars of the stars and stripes aligned against him with the new bill. I do not have to retaliate for banishment. 

Dry in the desert ... don't forget lubricating moisturizer on the date plantation excursions. And new reading glasses when you return home. 

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