A Newbie's First Time in Brazil

[numazu]

BONUS POST 5: Dos Males o Menos

 

When in Thailand, the process of hiring a boy and taking him out of his boy bar is called “offing”. There are two types of offs.  An off is “short-time” if you take the boy out between 15 minutes to 3 hours, usually with just one sex event within that time. Afterwhich the boy goes home, or goes back to his bar if it early enough (to get more customers). The off is called “long-time” if the hire goes over the mythical 3 hour mark, usually with the boy staying over to sleep with you, and may or may not feature an extra sex event or two, usually in the morning when you and/or him has morning wood.

 

The Thai bar boys operate on a flat-rate (similar to Brazil) and not an hourly rate like in the West, so you usually agree on a rate before the off. And oddly, the long-time rate is not a multiple of the short-time rate. I’ve had short-time rates at $40 lasting an hour. And I’ve had long-time rates lasting for 24 hours only paying $75. It depends on the john, the boy, the circumstance, and maybe how nice your hotel room is (usually, if they prefer your bed over their own for the night).

 

So essentially, I initially was only “short-timing” Gabriel at the sauna, with our 20 minutes or so tryst. Then, mid-off, I decided to “long-time” him, which entailed me taking him out of the sauna. There was no “off” fee for him, or the fee to take him out, like in most Thailand gogo bars, so I guess that is advantage Brazil.  But there was still the matter what was his “long-time” fee was, in addition to the 200 reais I already gave him earlier. Such things I did not know, and the BoyToy forums are a little vague about what clients pay their companions when outside the confines of the sauna.

 

But there are more urgent matters right now, as I peel off his now familiar speedo off of him. His huge cock, now super hard and pointing upwards, was a treat I just had to indulge on. I sit up to put it in my mouth. It won’t all fit in, but I try anyway. Once I was satisfied, I migrate down to his beautiful ass.  It still tasted as good as it was in the sauna, but since I was not on a bed that a thousand client-customer pairs have defiled throughout the years, in a room that has seen so much action and filth, and I was instead in the confines of my own (albeit temporary) comfortable apartment, I was able to spread my wings a little bit wider. And that meant spreading his legs a little bit wider too as well, as I ate him out for a while. His moans of pleasure, and his outstretched hand guiding my head to eat him harder and to navigate me to where he wanted me to focus, all added to the experience.

 

After a while he knew what was coming next. He leaves the bed and disappears to the living room, and returns with a condom, lube pack, and his trusty tube of lidocaine. I take the condom, unwrap it and put it on my cock. He takes both lidocaine and lube up his ass, and gives me the lube packet to oil up my thing. He immediately gets on all fours. I oblige and fuck him like this. After a while I sit down and lean my body on our bed’s headboard. He treats this as his next position, as he stands up and then squats down to take my cock. It was probably weird seeing the two of us like this, because he was the bigger and longer pf us two, and I was the smaller and slighter, but the up-close sight of his heaving body and bulging muscles making this position work for me, was all it took for me to cum in the condom. Still with my cock in him, he jacks himself off. I ever so slightly open my mouth and he sits up to cum in my mouth. Despite the relative complexity of our physical exertions, we definitely did not have to speak the same language to be in-sync sexually. He was a find.

 

My one gripe about this apartment is that the shower is not that big, so we had to take turns in taking showers. He wanted me to go first, MISTAKE #3: so I go to the bathroom and shut the door and take a luxurious shower. Mid-shower Gabriel goes in with a toothbrush and starts brushing his teeth while I was there. I finish, towel dry, and then it was Gabriel’s turn to shower, and my turn to brush my teeth. I leave the bathroom and shut the door and look for my boxer briefs. It did not occur to me then that the time I left Gabriel out there alone, he could have just robbed me and left. He didn’t.

 

While waiting for him to finish I check my phone in the living room. Lots of messages to answer. After some time I see Gabriel emerge from the bedroom, with my 12” iPad Pro in hand. “Posso?” he asks. “Sim,” I say. But of course, MISTAKE #4: all my stuff, including expensive electronics, is just ripe for the picking for Gabriel. But here he was, asking permission to use the iPad Pro. I unlock the device with my thumb, and out pops out YouTube, with the music video of the “Vai Malandra” by Anitta, was playing mid-song:

 

 

Vai Malandra pretty much has defined my whole stay here in Brazil. This song was release just last December 18, right in the middle of my stay in Sao Paulo. That day I was with my Paulista friend who was a hairdresser, and he was the one who put the song in my YouTube. Later that day it was as if the whole city was exploding with discovery of that song. You could hear it everywhere. And I watched the video transfixed with all the images.  There was a lot of things going on in the video, but the best things about it was it shot in the Vidigal favela in Rio. And in particular, the sequence wherein Anitta cavorts with two blonde cariocas, stood out for me:

 

 

Gabriel played the video and was screaming by the end of this sequence. He clearly wanted me to see this sequence because of the presence of the two bleach blonde cariocas, who kind of looked like him. This shot of the two boys from the back made me realize how much Gabriel looked like them from this angle, gold necklace, tan skin, and everything else (and if the back was more muscular).:

 

 

The boys were going to jump on this makeshift pool, on a bed of a truck:

 

 

With Anitta, just vamping at the side:

 

 

I took my phone and typed in for Gabriel: “You could star in this music video. You look like the blonde boys.”  He nods and smiles profusely and flexes a bicep and says “Sim! Mais musculoso!” Indeed. He was mais musculoso than the two boys in the video. And mais lindo. And mais carinhoso. And most likely mais everything else.

 

One last thing from this video, a shot of one of the hunks. If you ever have to imagine what Gabriel looks like, he may look like this (with way more muscle):

 

 

My favorite part, when he shows his tongue:

 

 

The full video, in case you can stand Brazilian pop music:

 

Vai Malandra

 

Vai Malandra has followed me from the streets of Sao Paulo, to the malls of Natal, to the nightclubs in Salvador, and now here, in my Ipanema apartment, with my carioca boyfriend for the night, watching it in my iPad Pro. Gabriel talked more about the Vidigal favela, and favelas in general. He says that Vidigal is going through some gentrification, and he googled some photos of the Alto Vidigal Bar and lounge as proof. The bar had some fantastic views of Rio. He told me we should go there sometime.  Sigh.  Someday.

 

We talk a little bit about a bunch of other things. About my life in the USA. About my trip in Brazil.  He tells me about why he is a garoto (the usual tale of poverty and supporting the mother and siblings). He shows me photos of his family. I show him photos of my vacation in Brazil. I showed my whole iPhone photo roll, which contained some risqué photos of the boys I’ve met along the way, and my BF too.  He looks at them with some curiosity, and then google translates this: “Sometime, maybe we can get a boy and fuck him together.” I think I am in love.

 

After a few more topics of discussion we decide to go to bed. I told him that the alarm was set at 6 AM because I had a flight to catch. We both sleep in our underwear. He wants to be big spoon, so we cuddle. All the activity today must have gotten to me, because I sleep all the way through and get awoken by the alarm.

 

I suddenly figure out where I was and who I was with. I see Gabriel still fast asleep, his tight body and tan skin glistening. I go to the bathroom to pee. And then after I look around and see that everything is still intact. MISTAKE #5:  I find my passport on the table just there ripe for the picking. The AirBNB unit did not have a safe so if Gabriel were to steal it I would be SOL on my flight back to the US today. I figure that if Gabriel was bad, he would have done something by now. I’ve given him so many chances to rob or kill me. I even remember him offering gum after dinner and I just popped it in my mouth. So many mistakes tonight.

 

I hear the toilet flush. I guess Gabriel was up. He emerged and went over to hug and kiss me. “Tudo bem?” he asks. Yes, everything was fine. My time with him was up. I have stretched my time with him as much as I could. I had to pack for my flight. I had to meet up with the AirBNB guy at 9:30 AM. I had to do a million things.

 

But of course, the most important thing I had to do is pay him for the extra time he spent with me. I had no clue what 11 extra hours of time is worth for him. I take out my wallet and fish out 4 50 reais bill.  I guess $62 would be enough, in addition of course to his other 200 in the sauna? I had no idea. He pocketed the money without question. I felt bad. Was it too little? I figure I would do the next best thing. I told him I would get him an Uber, so he does not have to wrestle with subways and busses. I hand him my phone and he types in his address. 15 minutes later we get a bite from Uber. 8 minutes away.

 

I give him a big hug. I type in a few goodbye phrases, and he bids me a nice flight, and thanked me for the Uber. 3 minutes away. I kiss him, he kisses back. I go with him to the lobby to bid him goodbye. We get to the gate and the car was there. He gets in and closes the door. He waves one last time before the car took him away. 40 minutes later, this was the fare:

 

 

It was reasonable, considering the distance. 30 minutes later, as promised, he sends me a video of him skateboarding. It was impressive. 3 weeks later, he would send me photos of him, his brother, and his friends in bathing suits ready to go to the beach. I recognize some of his friends from the sauna. 5 weeks later he sends me 2 photos of his birthday celebration. Turning 23 looks good on him. And now, 7 weeks later, I agree to have him be my travel companion for part of my next Brazil trip in April, which coincides with my birthday. I will spend 3 nights in Sao Paulo and 3 nights in Porto Alegre with him, paying him a flat rate of 300 reais a day, except on my birthday, which he says he is free for me, as a birthday present. And to sweeten the pot, he says this:

 

 

He will go with me to the sauna and we can fuck boys together. I guess we have a deal.

 

I am starting to like this country.

[docbr]

Wow numazu1!! Great tale, thank you for sharing it! Gabriel was a find on your trip, and I'm glad he treated you really well!

It's funny (and sometimes tragic) how easy it is to make small mistakes and expose ourselves to danger when dealing with the boys, but fortunately most of the time the boys from the saunas were honest and nothing happened.

Hope your next travel is a blast too and you can share again it with us!

[Riobard]

The "react" function is not working ... anyway: heart. You both struck gold!

[floridarob]

See the difference between the Thai guys and those from Brasil, sexually and not being shy/modest?

 

Too bad things are so reversed in those 2 countries, Brasil more expensive for food/lodging and GREAT sex so cheap and AMAZING food and lodging so cheap in Thailand , mediocre sex so expensive (for what you get) and most times Thai (or Viet, Cambodian, etc..) expecting/asking for more in the end even though they might not have even performed too well.

With that being said, I'm going to Thailand and Indonesia next week,  Their massages can't be beat, lol

 

[axiom2001]

Muito obrigado!  Although your reports were long and detailed, I truly appreciated reading about your first adventures and insights.  I also appreciated your initial writing as well.  Again, thanks!  

[likeohmygod]

Happy to see that the final mistakes did not cause any damage. Great reports!

Next time remember about your mistakes and enjoy an even better trip, without concerns.

[Badboy81]

From what I could make up from the overly long (extremely detailed) and somewhat confusing encounter...you had a good time...Happy to hear (read) that

Your writing/typing sounds like somebody else who also writes long,  hard to follow encounters with boys in Brazil...

FYI...Most of the guys don´t steal especially if they know they have the opportunity to make more money with you and also if they know they may run into you again...

Glad that you were able to entertain so many guys on here..

[Badboy81]

12 hours ago, floridarob said:

See the difference between the Thai guys and those from Brasil, sexually and not being shy/modest?

 

Too bad things are so reversed in those 2 countries, Brasil more expensive for food/lodging and GREAT sex so cheap and AMAZING food and lodging so cheap in Thailand , mediocre sex so expensive (for what you get) and most times Thai (or Viet, Cambodian, etc..) expecting/asking for more in the end even though they might not have even performed too well.

With that being said, I'm going to Thailand and Indonesia next week,  Their massages can't be beat, lol

 

Both countries are inexpensive compared to the states or Europe...Bangkok and those other Asian countries you named are just unbelievably inexpensive....Like unbelievable for food, shopping and lodging but Rio is not crazy expensive

Sex in both countries is cheap and easy to come by...Im just not interested small Asian twinks...

And you are right...the massages in Bangkok CAN NOT BE BEAT!!!!

[Walker]

3 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

Sex in both countries is cheap and easy to come by...Im just not interested small Asian twinks...

I agree.  Most rent boys in Thailand are skinny/thin boyish or effeminate twinks, and the sex is more vanilla. Whereas in Brazil, I can easily find manly macho muscle men, and have sex like wild beasts.

[demedici]

Great posts numazu! I loved all of it! Only thing missing was this guy's number, I want him for my next trip! Especially if he looks like Vidigal's  Justin Bieber whose real name escapes me. If he doesn't mind, send me his digits. 

It's a shame how some people on this forum go negative at first chance, but really, thank you for the great storytelling. 

 

[TotallyOz]

4 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

From what I could make up from the overly long (extremely detailed) and somewhat confusing encounter...you had a good time...Happy to hear (read) that

Your writing/typing sounds like somebody else who also writes long,  hard to follow encounters with boys in Brazil...

FYI...Most of the guys don´t steal especially if they know they have the opportunity to make more money with you and also if they know they may run into you again...

Glad that you were able to entertain so many guys on here..

1. If you don't like the detail, don't fucking read it.

2. If you have nothing positive to say, fuck off and don't post on that thread.

3. I have met him, and he is not someone who has posted here before. Conspiracy theorist confound me.

[paulsf]

Most rent boys in Thailand are NOT skinny/boyish effeminate twinks. 

[Tartegogo]

9 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

Your writing/typing sounds like somebody else who also writes long,  hard to follow encounters with boys in Brazil...

Lol this is so funny on at least a couple of levels. 

[numazu]

On 2/26/2018 at 9:35 PM, docbr said:

Wow numazu1!! Great tale, thank you for sharing it! Gabriel was a find on your trip, and I'm glad he treated you really well!

It's funny (and sometimes tragic) how easy it is to make small mistakes and expose ourselves to danger when dealing with the boys, but fortunately most of the time the boys from the saunas were honest and nothing happened.

Hope your next travel is a blast too and you can share again it with us!

On 2/27/2018 at 7:10 AM, Riobard said:

The "react" function is not working ... anyway: heart. You both struck gold!

On 2/27/2018 at 10:52 AM, likeohmygod said:

Happy to see that the final mistakes did not cause any damage. Great reports!

Next time remember about your mistakes and enjoy an even better trip, without concerns.

Thanks for the compliments. This and some personal messages I've gotten thanking me for this report are all appreciated. These may inspire me to write about the 3 upcoming trips I have to Brazil, and two upcoming for Colombia. I am not sure I'll write about those yet.

On 2/27/2018 at 9:51 AM, axiom2001 said:

Muito obrigado!  Although your reports were long and detailed, I truly appreciated reading about your first adventures and insights.  I also appreciated your initial writing as well.  Again, thanks!  

On 2/28/2018 at 12:22 AM, demedici said:

Great posts numazu! I loved all of it! Only thing missing was this guy's number, I want him for my next trip! Especially if he looks like Vidigal's  Justin Bieber whose real name escapes me. If he doesn't mind, send me his digits. 

It's a shame how some people on this forum go negative at first chance, but really, thank you for the great storytelling. 

 

Thanks guys. My writing style is not for everyone. If you ever check out my trip reports on GayThailand.com, and the one on here, you will see that I write about too many things in too much detail. I seem to be unable to write in any other way, oh well. My secret is I always write these between layovers or on long flights to somewhere, since I travel a lot of work and play. Also, my reports seem to be more useful for newbies and not super helpful for Brazil veterans, but I am glad some appreciate it.

On 2/27/2018 at 7:58 AM, floridarob said:

See the difference between the Thai guys and those from Brasil, sexually and not being shy/modest?

Too bad things are so reversed in those 2 countries, Brasil more expensive for food/lodging and GREAT sex so cheap and AMAZING food and lodging so cheap in Thailand , mediocre sex so expensive (for what you get) and most times Thai (or Viet, Cambodian, etc..) expecting/asking for more in the end even though they might not have even performed too well.

With that being said, I'm going to Thailand and Indonesia next week,  Their massages can't be beat, lol
 

On 2/28/2018 at 3:59 AM, paulsf said:

Most rent boys in Thailand are NOT skinny/boyish effeminate twinks. 

Glad you two opined about this. Rob, what you say is true about Thailand vs. Brazil, but at least we are both lucky enough to enjoy both countries in our own way. Sorry I will miss you on your next Bangkok trip, and you missed me when I was there last week, but hopefully we can hangout again at some point this year.

Yes planetime, MOST rent boys are NOT skinny effeminate twinks. As an example just a few weeks ago, you know firsthand that I was able to hire a 23-year-old Thai bodybuilder who was fresh out of the army, and that last night you saw me get a tall hunky Thai guy from Dream Boy bar. It was nice seeing you again and hanging out with me, and hopefully i'll see you again this year, maybe in Mexico!

On 2/28/2018 at 1:57 AM, TotallyOz said:

1. If you don't like the detail, don't fucking read it.

2. If you have nothing positive to say, fuck off and don't post on that thread.

3. I have met him, and he is not someone who has posted here before. Conspiracy theorist confound me.

I always get conspiracists doubt about stuff I write about, or my intentions, or me. It's normal and I'm used to it. Anyways, it was nice to finally meet you a few weeks ago! I've met with 3 other posters here in my various trips in Asia, and I hope my initial foray to BoyToy posting will yield more meet ups with members in the future. I am always in Colombia, and plan to be in Brazil more times this year, so there will be plenty of chances.

[SolaceSoul]

On 2/26/2018 at 12:29 PM, redxs said:

Which places would you recommend in Copa and Ipanema? Have you any favourites?

The kilo (or quilo) restaurants are everywhere. They are buffet-style and the cost is by the pound (or kilo). Just Google “kilo / quilo restaurant Copacabana / Ipanema”.

Names escape me but two off the top of my head because they were close to where I have stayed are: Temperarte Posto 6 on Nossa Senhora in Copa, and Fronteira on Rua Visconte in Ipanema. There is also a good kilo on Sigueira Campos, the same street as Point 202, but about a 7-10 minute walk east from it. But the name escapes me. I’m sure Google knows.

 

[Latbear4blk]

I have not been in Rio, but if it is like São Paulo I am sure you also have deliciously unhealthy street food, very affordable.

[torogen]

12 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

I have not been in Rio, but if it is like São Paulo I am sure you also have deliciously unhealthy street food, very affordable.

Indeed. There are many options for very cheap food in the areas where I have stayed (Ipanema and Copacabana). Tons of loncherias with things like risoli de frango, pastel de queijo, empadas, etc. Or, alternately, cheap-ish places like Delirio Tropical, where you can get a decent, tasty meal for around $10: https://www.yelp.com/biz/delírio-tropical-rio-de-janeiro-10?utm_campaign=www_business_share_popup&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=(direct)

[Lucky]

Numazu's trip reports, both here and at gaythailand.com, are just superb. I've read them all. I can't get enough details, so I wonder why anyone would want him to censor himself. He makes Gabriel out to be just plain desirable. I want him!

I've got 15 trips to Thailand behind me and about 7 to Brazil. I do prefer Brazilian men for sex, but a sweet Thai guy can be fun all-around. It's not either or if you like to travel. I've met some pretty masculine Thai guys, but never an effeminate Brazilian guy. Macho seems to be the word there.

Anyway, Numazu could write a book and I'd be right in line to buy it.

[TotallyOz]

10 hours ago, Lucky said:

Numazu's trip reports, both here and at gaythailand.com, are just superb. I've read them all. I can't get enough details, so I wonder why anyone would want him to censor himself. He makes Gabriel out to be just plain desirable. I want him!

I've got 15 trips to Thailand behind me and about 7 to Brazil. I do prefer Brazilian men for sex, but a sweet Thai guy can be fun all-around. It's not either or if you like to travel. I've met some pretty masculine Thai guys, but never an effeminate Brazilian guy. Macho seems to be the word there.

Anyway, Numazu could write a book and I'd be right in line to buy it.

I agree with most of what you say. But, i have met plenty of effeminate Brazilian guys.  Most of the saunas do not allow them in as they think their class base is offended but they are there.  I forget the name of the sauna but there was one on the outskirts of Sao Paulo that was mostly local guys and they had some fem boys there.  I also met some in Fortaleza at the saunas. But, in Sao Paulo, they were mostly at the dance clubs which is now late for an old man to stay up that late now so I did not do that on my last few visits. 

I have masculine Thai guys all the time. But, sometimes I like a bit more effeminate. Sometimes I like a bit of a ladyboy.  Sometimes I like a lady.  I have had all of them in both Thailand and Brazil and never had a problem finding them.

Like Lucky, I think the passion in Brazilian men is amazing for sex.  But, the sweetness from the Thais is just as amazing.  It is a different kind of sex granted but good sex in both areas.

[Suckrates]

 

Two Blonde boys are better than 1....

[TotallyOz]

31 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

 

Two Blonde boys are better than 1....

Amen!

[Gotti]

Sorry, but with all due respect, these are 2 black guys that just happened to dye their hair, while Vidigal Bieber, the one that arose so much passion, is something completely different, one for the ages!

Deserves worshipment, not banalization!

[Gotti]

Not for nothing, I published these photos right here on this forum a good 8 months before Anitta ( a beyond horrible singer, by the way) found out about him and the world went berserk!

[Walker]

Oh OK. This is why so many black Brazilians dye their hair blonde now.

[Gotti]

Hi died his hair, but he is not really black guy,  as a matter of fact, he looks even better as a brunette and when he does not try so hard the Bieber thing, although of course is his claim to fame and the money maker. In a perfect world, his ass alone would give him the universe.