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Thank you so much for this report!   I have a soft spot for stripper bars.  Especially ones that allow you to be one on one with the dancers.  Judging from the pictures it seems these are more clubs than bars?  would you say the average customer is going there for the strippers and hustling or is it more for the party, and the dancers are a part of the festivities (albeit still “available “)?   Not that it matters much as I would go to either.  I just like the idea of getting down to business than being there to dance and get wasted.   Do you have any recommendations for areas of town to stay in?   I myself love Airbnb and I tend to stay in nicer, leafy neighborhoods than commercial centers.    Thanks again for all the details and all the pics!   

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Very good report. pics #34 (neon yellow speedo, ballcap) and #41 (Tristan caption) have me worked up, same guy?, source? 

I too am keen to visit accessible cities where gogo stripper dancer boys are available in the club or private dates. CDMX has been a bust in this regard. PV was also not impressive (Wet, Anthropology) when last visited.

Consider me also interested in answers to Alaskabear's Qs. 

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Thank you @Darkseraphimthis is excellent reporting. 

 

Just one thing for everyone,  purely for the sake of accuracy: the map of the legality of prostitution is for female prostitution. There is one case, Japan, where vagina-sex for money is illegal (and you really don’t want to break the law in Japan), but all other types of sex-for-money are legal. So anal sex with boys is fully legal and in fact there are boy brothels that are publicly advertising this and not hiding in any way. 

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17 hours ago, Alaskabear said:

Thank you so much for this report!   I have a soft spot for stripper bars.  Especially ones that allow you to be one on one with the dancers.  Judging from the pictures it seems these are more clubs than bars?  would you say the average customer is going there for the strippers and hustling or is it more for the party, and the dancers are a part of the festivities (albeit still “available “)?   Not that it matters much as I would go to either.  I just like the idea of getting down to business than being there to dance and get wasted.   Do you have any recommendations for areas of town to stay in?   I myself love Airbnb and I tend to stay in nicer, leafy neighborhoods than commercial centers.    Thanks again for all the details and all the pics!   

@Alaskabear: I love stripper bars!  One of my first gay experiences was at the old "Corner Pocket" in New Orleans.  That was a great bar back in the day, the boys danced on the bar and you got to feel everything you wanted for only a dollar ^_^  The "Boardwalk" in Wilton Manors was also a haunt of mine while I lived in South Florida.  These places in Monterrey are mostly clubs where strippers perform: La Colorina is explicitly a dance club with a side business in shirtless entertainment while La Diosa is primarily a stripper club/bar.  There are probably normal guys who would be willing to accompany you for a few hours in return for monetary compensation but, I don't think the percentage is much higher than say "The Tin Room" in Dallas.  The dancers on the other hand would most definitely be available for after hours fun if the price is right.  Unfortunately, my conversational Spanish is still rudimentary so I tend to rely on google translator way too much in social situations. 

All night long at both establishments I saw dancers invited up to tables enjoying drinks, having their firm young bodies touched and caressed in the most intimate places then eagerly exchange numbers with excited patrons.  Yes, most of these guys are available for a price.  La Diosa seems to explicitly cater to this, I didn't see many street hustlers working the club but the dancers were plentiful and really worked the room.  Since I had a companion with me, who basically held onto me all night so that the other guys wouldn't think about approaching, they mostly looked at my table longingly.  I wanted to invite one over but, my companion didn't want to share me ;)  As Tomcal has taught us the supply of gym body guys in Mexico is not nearly as deep as in Brazil or Colombia however, these guys do exist. 

I have also noticed an increase in Colombian guys advertising on the escort sites.  I believe that the Pacific Alliance that Mexico is now in with Colombia, Chile and Peru basically allows for free movement of people between the countries.  I'm going to try and bring a Venezuelan guy from Lima to Mexico City next year and see what happens.  Mexico is a lot closer and for me and the plane tickets much less expensive than flying to South America.  I'm just a middle class guy right now so when I do the trip calculations in my Excel a week long trip to Dallas and one to any of the major cities in Mexico is about the same in price.  The fact that I keep choosing to cross the border instead of juts having fun in Dallas, Houston, Miami or Los Angeles must mean that I'm addicted to brown boys and want to experience them in their native environment B) 

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My very first gay experience was at a stripper bar in New Orleans as well!  This was at the Bourbon Pub Parade.  I was 19 and stood at the open window and a swarthy blond was dancing on the bar top wearing loose fitting khaki shorts and nothing else except a full hard on.  He jumped down, came over, hopped up in the window seal and grabbed my hand and put it in his pants.   First encounter and it’s the reason why I still have an attraction to semi public displays of sexuality.  Haha.  Happy to know you’ve had a similar experience.   I was at the corner pocket last winter and though it wasn’t as naughty as I wanted it to be, it was still fun.    

Thanks for replying and I’m going to have to keep second tier Mexican cities on my radar.   I’ve been to PV several times but the last time seemed a bit too tame and I felt too much like a walking ATM when it came to interacting with the dancers.   (I mean, more than normal in those situations. Haha).   I too like my guys on the darker side and in that environment of “someplace else” that’s not the states.  

La Diosa sounds like it’s more my style.  I wish I could combine the type of bars in Thailand with Montreal style strip clubs but filled with Latinos of all shades. Haha.   That would be perfect.  

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14 hours ago, Riobard said:

Very good report. pics #34 (neon yellow speedo, ballcap) and #41 (Tristan caption) have me worked up, same guy?, source? 

I too am keen to visit accessible cities where gogo stripper dancer boys are available in the club or private dates. CDMX has been a bust in this regard. PV was also not impressive (Wet, Anthropology) when last visited.

Consider me also interested in answers to Alaskabear's Qs. 

@Riobard: Yes, Tristan is the same dancer and a Peruvian import.  Dios Mio his body was glorious, I even got to grab that ass once, really prime meat!  He will come and sit and party with you all night if you keep him in drinks, I saw one mixed group party pull 3 guys over to dance for a few hours.  I pulled those pics directly from the club's Facebook page as many of my pictures were contaminated by the club lighting.  Private dances are available in the back room the rest is up to what you and the guy can negotiate.  I should have gone back and gotten his number unfortunately, I was leaving Saturday afternoon and didn't have time :mellow:

 

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13 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

Thank you @Darkseraphimthis is excellent reporting. 

 

Just one thing for everyone,  purely for the sake of accuracy: the map of the legality of prostitution is for female prostitution. There is one case, Japan, where vagina-sex for money is illegal (and you really don’t want to break the law in Japan), but all other types of sex-for-money are legal. So anal sex with boys is fully legal and in fact there are boy brothels that are publicly advertising this and not hiding in any way. 

@Tartegogo: Wait, there are boy brothels in Tokyo!  Why am I just now hearing about this?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tokyo-boys-for-sale-straight-lads-need-to-pay-the_us_597006fae4b04dcf308d2a20

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10 minutes ago, Alaskabear said:

My very first gay experience was at a stripper bar in New Orleans as well!  This was at the Bourbon Pub Parade.  I was 19 and stood at the open window and a swarthy blond was dancing on the bar top wearing loose fitting khaki shorts and nothing else except a full hard on.  He jumped down, came over, hopped up in the window seal and grabbed my hand and put it in his pants.   First encounter and it’s the reason why I still have an attraction to semi public displays of sexuality.  Haha.  Happy to know you’ve had a similar experience.   I was at the corner pocket last winter and though it wasn’t as naughty as I wanted it to be, it was still fun.    

Thanks for replying and I’m going to have to keep second tier Mexican cities on my radar.   I’ve been to PV several times but the last time seemed a bit too tame and I felt too much like a walking ATM when it came to interacting with the dancers.   (I mean, more than normal in those situations. Haha).   I too like my guys on the darker side and in that environment of “someplace else” that’s not the states.  

La Diosa sounds like it’s more my style.  I wish I could combine the type of bars in Thailand with Montreal style strip clubs but filled with Latinos of all shades. Haha.   That would be perfect.  

@Alaskabear:  I was having the same thoughts.  I mean it's Latin America so anything should be possible with enough money and the right connections.  If I could have a dance club like La Colorina, incentivize the house dancers like at La Diosa but, have a system like in Thailand where you could pay a bar fee and take the guys home for a private show that would be awesome.  The back room for private dances at La Diosa is a good first step but, I know that Latin America can do better.  I will be taking a few weeks off in Feb and March to travel Guadalajara, Leon and CDMX I'll let you guys know if I find anything good since I do plan on visiting the nightlife establishments on a regular basis when I travel OCONUS from now on.  

I also have no idea why I like Latin guys so much it's probably a fetish I picked up somewhere.  Pero, I just love my brown boys and I don't want to give them up:D

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7 hours ago, Darkseraphim said:

@Riobard: Yes, Tristan is the same dancer and a Peruvian import.  Dios Mio his body was glorious, I even got to grab that ass once, really prime meat! 

 

Yeah ... thumbs up on the green-lighting of his A-rod and juicy butt!

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@Riobard: Yes, I found Tristan very interesting as well, especially given that I did not see many muscle guys when I visited Lima & Cusco.  However, I did not visit any of the nightlife establishments or saunas and met most of my guys online.  I prefer nice bodied twink bottoms so the apps and a few websites were all I needed to keep me busy; I also needed an American Express card and an Uber account to shuttle guys around the city but that is to be expected.  Tristan was a very unique find and I honestly contemplated going back to La Diosa just to spend some quality time with him.  Until you see these muscle guys performing live in front of you think that remaining rational is easy.  I had a really great time at that club and definitely want to return. 

In fact I'm debating if I should go back to Monterrey for a few days or go visit Dallas; the cost is about the same with hotel and air fare basically negating each other.  However, what is available for the money once I am in the city is definitely more in Mexico.  I jest feel as though I get better value once in Latin America whether it is with guys, food or accommodations.  However, Latin America is not all unicorns and cupcakes; the wealth disparity is frightening and many coming from an American suburb will find the conditions outside the resorts and tourists locations unacceptable.  For those of us with balanced risk perception and real experience in an urban environment  the cities of Latin America can be very rewarding.

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Loving your thoughtful, insightful, eloquent, elegant posts, Darkseraphim.

Regarding Peru: I understand visitors to Machu Picchu had a rough go of it recently due to wildcat bus strike and had to walk back a long trek to the stage of transport still operating. Can happen anywhere but resonates with your commentary. 

Just so you know, I am Tristan's 1st dibs Isolde. 

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26 minutes ago, Riobard said:

Loving your thoughtful, insightful, eloquent, elegant posts, Darkseraphim.

Regarding Peru: I understand visitors to Machu Picchu had a rough go of it recently due to wildcat bus strike and had to walk back a long trek to the stage of transport still operating. Can happen anywhere but resonates with your commentary. 

Just so you know, I am Tristan's 1st dibs Isolde. 

@Riobard: Given that we are talking about the rough trade in Latin America bringing the legend of Tristan & Isolde into this is very interesting.  Foreign travel and forbidden love may await you:blush: 

In Peru, I was praying the whole time I was in Cusco that there would be no labor action to prevent me visiting and returning from Machu Picchu.  The rural economy in Peru is very underdeveloped and these people see literally millions of comparatively wealthy foreigners pass through their country.  Many of the indigenous population now have access to mobile devices and entertainment from the industrialized economies.  They see the good life on the screens and right in front of them and many now want a taste of it themselves.  Given the wealth disparity in many Latin American countries I'm grateful that things have remained relatively stable so far; we can't have the entire Hemisphere acting like Venezuela.  I just pray that America doesn't get the Latin America disease as well.

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2 hours ago, Darkseraphim said:

@Riobard: Given that we are talking about the rough trade in Latin America bringing the legend of Tristan & Isolde into this is very interesting.  Foreign travel and forbidden love may await you:blush: 

Narratives, myths, legends, truisms do tend to have potential for thematic variations down here ... like this art deco statue angle that slants the resurrection story

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