Fucking All Franken?

[BiBottomBoy]

Ok.

Does anyone believe the allegations against Fraken or are we all in agreement that it's a GOP plant?

[AdamSmith]

He admitted it outright.

Please try for at least a little seriousness in your discourse here.

I know that goes against character, but Freud did give name to rhis thing the Reality Principle. 

[BiBottomBoy]

AdamSmith

Didn't see where he admitted it.

I'm reading French news sources which may be slightly behind.

[AdamSmith]

Just now, BiBottomBoy said:

AdamSmith

Didn't see where he admitted it.

I'm reading French news sources which may be slightly behind.

CNN.com is not an obscure resource.

[BiBottomBoy]

I prefer Le Monde

[AdamSmith]

5 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said:

I prefer Le Monde

Yes, no quarrel.

I only meant in re: accurate coverage of U.S. news, as you yourself said just above.

Ye gods! French modes of ratiocination have sunk themselves into your own head!

[BiBottomBoy]

It's just my go-to.

I find it more accurate than any US source.

CNN/The Times are the best America has to offer but can slip up at times.

Le Monde tends to be fairly balanced.

[BiBottomBoy]

The question is what do we do now.

My first instinct is he should resign - but that gives the GOP a chance at a seat, which would be horrible.

So I have no idea what the remedy is.

[AdamSmith]

17 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said:

The question is what do we do now.

My first instinct is he should resign - but that gives the GOP a chance at a seat, which would be horrible.

So I have no idea what the remedy is.

These are the type of effective remedies.

[BiBottomBoy]

You want Muller to go after Franken?

[AdamSmith]

1 minute ago, BiBottomBoy said:

You want Muller to go after Franken?

It would be interesting and corrective, wouldn't it?

[BiBottomBoy]

I'm pretty sure he has a very time consuming job already

[TotallyOz]

If we are going to go after Franken, we need to go after every one of them.  He fucked up.  He admits it.  He was a comic.

[BiBottomBoy]

Oz,

I agree.

But do we go after Franken?

[MsAnn]

There are degrees here...Child molesters first.

[TotallyOz]

Just now, MsAnn said:

There are degrees here...Child molesters first.

Yes, and we need to have some limitations on comedy, time frames, etc. Hell, if every bartender in NYC that I tried to take to my apartment said I harassed them, I'm afraid I'd be in trouble for years.

[BiBottomBoy]

MsAnn

Totally agree.

That said - what is a child? I mean Spacey and Moore are pretty similar - but I think most of us would be likely to give Spacey a pass and not Moore.

[BiBottomBoy]

TotallyOz,

Me too.

[AdamSmith]

30 minutes ago, TotallyOz said:

Yes, and we need to have some limitations on comedy, time frames, etc. Hell, if every bartender in NYC that I tried to take to my apartment said I harassed them, I'm afraid I'd be in trouble for years.

'I resemble that remark!'

[BiBottomBoy]

Well we'd all be done if bartenders in our 20s could out us

[TotallyOz]

I have to look at things currently and I also have to look to see change.  I don't see that in Spacey as he has been consistent it seems. I don't forgive Roy Moore as he was taking advantage of those underage and in a position of power.

[RA1]

Who were those underage and in a position of power?   

The statement above that I most agree with is we go after all of them.

Best regards,

RA1

[BiBottomBoy]

Power is the thing

[Lucky]

So many of these are old allegations where the person has not repeated the behavior as he aged. Those folks should get amnesty. We are going to tear society apart with all of these allegations, many of which cannot be proven or disproved. I'd say events in the last ten years where there is serious proof should go forward, the rest of them, well, you waited too long to say anything.

[BiBottomBoy]

Yes. I mean everyone did shitty things in the past.