BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Ok. Does anyone believe the allegations against Fraken or are we all in agreement that it's a GOP plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 He admitted it outright. Please try for at least a little seriousness in your discourse here. I know that goes against character, but Freud did give name to rhis thing the Reality Principle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 AdamSmith Didn't see where he admitted it. I'm reading French news sources which may be slightly behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, BiBottomBoy said: AdamSmith Didn't see where he admitted it. I'm reading French news sources which may be slightly behind. CNN.com is not an obscure resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 I prefer Le Monde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said: I prefer Le Monde Yes, no quarrel. I only meant in re: accurate coverage of U.S. news, as you yourself said just above. Ye gods! French modes of ratiocination have sunk themselves into your own head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 It's just my go-to. I find it more accurate than any US source. CNN/The Times are the best America has to offer but can slip up at times. Le Monde tends to be fairly balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 The question is what do we do now. My first instinct is he should resign - but that gives the GOP a chance at a seat, which would be horrible. So I have no idea what the remedy is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said: The question is what do we do now. My first instinct is he should resign - but that gives the GOP a chance at a seat, which would be horrible. So I have no idea what the remedy is. These are the type of effective remedies. MsAnn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 You want Muller to go after Franken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, BiBottomBoy said: You want Muller to go after Franken? It would be interesting and corrective, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 I'm pretty sure he has a very time consuming job already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 If we are going to go after Franken, we need to go after every one of them. He fucked up. He admits it. He was a comic. Candyman and AdamSmith 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Oz, I agree. But do we go after Franken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MsAnn Posted November 17, 2017 Members Share Posted November 17, 2017 There are degrees here...Child molesters first. AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, MsAnn said: There are degrees here...Child molesters first. Yes, and we need to have some limitations on comedy, time frames, etc. Hell, if every bartender in NYC that I tried to take to my apartment said I harassed them, I'm afraid I'd be in trouble for years. BiBottomBoy, paulsf, MsAnn and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 MsAnn Totally agree. That said - what is a child? I mean Spacey and Moore are pretty similar - but I think most of us would be likely to give Spacey a pass and not Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 TotallyOz, Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 30 minutes ago, TotallyOz said: Yes, and we need to have some limitations on comedy, time frames, etc. Hell, if every bartender in NYC that I tried to take to my apartment said I harassed them, I'm afraid I'd be in trouble for years. 'I resemble that remark!' MsAnn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Well we'd all be done if bartenders in our 20s could out us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I have to look at things currently and I also have to look to see change. I don't see that in Spacey as he has been consistent it seems. I don't forgive Roy Moore as he was taking advantage of those underage and in a position of power. AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted November 17, 2017 Members Share Posted November 17, 2017 Who were those underage and in a position of power? The statement above that I most agree with is we go after all of them. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Power is the thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted November 17, 2017 Members Share Posted November 17, 2017 So many of these are old allegations where the person has not repeated the behavior as he aged. Those folks should get amnesty. We are going to tear society apart with all of these allegations, many of which cannot be proven or disproved. I'd say events in the last ten years where there is serious proof should go forward, the rest of them, well, you waited too long to say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Yes. I mean everyone did shitty things in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
