Roy Moore will get elected

[TotallyOz]

Being from the state of Alabama and having many friends there now, I do believe that no matter what is said or done that Roy Moore will still get elected to the Senate to fill the seat the Sessions left. They have a really great Democrat candidate but that does not matter.

[Lucky]

Doesn't say much for your fellow Alabamans, does it? Of course, I know that you wouldn't vote for Moore.

[TotallyOz]

I detest the man. I detest Trump. But, one friend said it very well.  He said, "look, I'm getting what I wanted from Trump and that is conservative justices on the bench. That is all I care about."  And, he is right.  There was an article in the NYT yesterday about more justices being approved at a faster rate than anytime in the last 50 years.  IMHO, this is the big story of the Trump election. He will set up back 30 years just with this. IMHO

[Guest Larstrup]

2 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

 There was an article in the NYT yesterday about more justices being approved at a faster rate than anytime in the last 50 years.  IMHO, this is the big story of the Trump election. He will set up back 30 years just with this.

This is indeed alarming and has been buried in the daily news, due to the chaos this unfit president creates each day.

Trump Nominee for Federal Judgeship Has Never Tried a Case

A 36-year-old lawyer who has never tried a case and who was unanimously deemed “not qualified” by the American Bar Association has been approved for a lifetime federal district judgeship by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The lawyer, Brett Talley, is the fourth judicial nominee under President Trump to receive a “not qualified” rating from the bar association and the second to receive the rating unanimously. Since 1989, the association has unanimously rated only two other judicial nominees as not qualified.

The Senate committee’s vote on Thursday to approve Mr. Talley, who graduated from Harvard Law School in 2007 and is a deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department, fell along party lines; Republican members outnumber Democrats on the committee 11 to nine. Mr. Talley will now face a full vote in the Senate. If confirmed, he would serve as a trial judge in his home state of Alabama.

Mr. Talley’s nomination is just one of the latest examples of Mr. Trump’s efforts to reshape the nation’s courts, packing them with young, deeply conservative judges.

Mr. Talley’s lack of experience drew searing questions from Democratic members of the committee. Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the minority whip, asked Mr. Talley in a written questionnaire, “Do you think it is advisable to put people with literally no trial experience on the federal district court bench?”

Mr. Talley demurred. “It would be inappropriate for me as a nominee to comment on the advisability of any nomination,” he wrote.

Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the ranking member of the committee, asked if Mr. Talley had ever argued a motion in Federal District Court, given that he had never tried a case. He had not.

Ms. Feinstein also pointed to Mr. Talley’s prolific social media presence before his nomination. He once referred to Hillary Clinton as “Hillary Rotten Clinton” on his public Twitter account, which is now private.

In 2013, he wrote on his blog that armed revolution was an important defense against tyrannical government. Ms. Feinstein asked in her written questions when Mr. Talley believed it would become appropriate for American citizens to participate in an armed uprising against the government.

He replied that he did not believe any situation in American history — with the “possible exception” of slavery — had called for armed rebellion.

At the committee vote on Thursday, Ms. Feinstein took greatest issue with Mr. Talley’s professed views on gun control. In 2013, about a month after a gunman killed 20 children at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., Mr. Talley on his blog pledged his total support to the National Rifle Association, “financially, politically and intellectually.”

Ms. Feinstein said she had asked Mr. Talley whether, if confirmed, he would commit to recusing himself in cases involving weapons. He refused.

“I find this unacceptable,” she said.

Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa and the chairman of the committee, defended Mr. Talley’s qualifications. “Mr. Talley has a wide breadth of various legal experience that has helped to expose him to different aspects of federal law and the issues that would come before him,” he said in a statement.

Mr. Grassley also cast doubt on the importance of the bar association’s rating. “Senators can decide for themselves if the A.B.A.’s metric of what makes a nominee qualified is proper in these cases,” he said.

Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, in 2012 had praised the bar association’s practice of evaluating judicial nominees as an important way to distinguish between people who merely had political connections and people who belonged on the bench.

Mr. Grassley also noted that other judicial nominees rated “not qualified” had been approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, at times unanimously.

Other judicial nominees have faced scrutiny for their lack of trial experience. In 2010, Jeff Sessions, then a senator from Alabama, asked Nancy Freudenthal, who had been nominated to Wyoming District Court by President Barack Obama, about her having never tried a case before a jury. Ms. Freudenthal was eventually approved by the Senate, 96 to 1.

Additionally, the comparative rarity of “not qualified” ratings for judicial nominees under previous administrations may have been due, at least in part, to a difference in procedure. Every president since Dwight D. Eisenhower, with the exception of George W. Bush, screened potential nominees with the American Bar Association before publicly announcing them — a tradition the Trump administration has decided to shun.

But that change alone does not account for the number of unqualified nominees under Mr. Trump, said Kristine Lucius, executive vice president for policy of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, a coalition of civil rights and labor groups.

“It is unprecedented to have this many, this quickly, in this short a time,” she said. Of Mr. Talley, she added, “When you think of how much power a district court nominee has over life and death decisions every day, it’s really irresponsible to put someone on with that little experience.”

The Senate committee on Thursday also approved four other nominees for federal judgeships, including Holly Lou Teeter, who also received a “not qualified” rating.

Trump Nominee for Federal Judgeship Has Never Tried a Case

[Lucky]

Another accuser on Moore came forward today.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/woman-accuses-roy-moore-sexual-assault-16-article-1.3630126

[BiBottomBoy]

Thing is though the Senate doesn't have to accept him and Mich McConnell said last night they wouldn't let him in if he was elected.

[RockHardNYC]

I'm really sorry to hear you grew up in Alabama, Oz. That's an interesting anecdote that I did not know. I've been to Alabama numerous times on business, and my skin crawled the entire time I was there. These days, I will do everything I can to avoid going there. Too many people in Alabama are dreadful examples of the human race.

I'm not so sure about Roy Moore's chances for a win. I sure wouldn't put any money on it. In the end, no state wants to be a laughing stock or the butt of endless jokes. No state wants to endure complete and utter humiliation.

[Guest Larstrup]

Live at the Roy Moore event right now. Moore supporter speaking...

 

[tassojunior]

On 11/16/2017 at 11:15 AM, RockHardNYC said:

I'm really sorry to hear you grew up in Alabama, Oz. That's an interesting anecdote that I did not know. I've been to Alabama numerous times on business, and my skin crawled the entire time I was there. These days, I will do everything I can to avoid going there. Too many people in Alabama are dreadful examples of the human race.

I'm not so sure about Roy Moore's chances for a win. I sure wouldn't put any money on it. In the end, no state wants to be a laughing stock or the butt of endless jokes. No state wants to endure complete and utter humiliation.

My family's in Alabama.

Never overestimate Alabama. 

[TotallyOz]

Of course a sexually perverted president is going to support a sexually perverted Senate candidate for the job in a state where people could care less if their Senator is a child molester as long as they are not one of the disgusting liberals. This is easy to understand as most of the people from Bama are taught from a young age to believe in doing what they are told from the pulpit as opposed to thinking for themselves. And, Trump has the bully pulpit. And, it easier to vote what their savior Trump suggests because Roy Moore denied all the allegations and that is good enough for Trump.

[TotallyOz]

On 11/16/2017 at 11:15 PM, RockHardNYC said:

I'm really sorry to hear you grew up in Alabama, Oz. That's an interesting anecdote that I did not know. I've been to Alabama numerous times on business, and my skin crawled the entire time I was there. These days, I will do everything I can to avoid going there. Too many people in Alabama are dreadful examples of the human race.

I'm not so sure about Roy Moore's chances for a win. I sure wouldn't put any money on it. In the end, no state wants to be a laughing stock or the butt of endless jokes. No state wants to endure complete and utter humiliation.

It is OK.  I have to vomit each time I go back into the state to see relatives.

[BiBottomBoy]

I really hate all these people

[RockHardNYC]

8 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

I have to vomit each time I go back into the state to see relatives.

I have a similar reaction to some of my Midwest Republican cousins.

[tassojunior]

The Democrat, Jones, should be a good candidate except that he insists on absolute abortion rights seemingly up to the kids first or second birthday. In Bible Belt Alabama couldn't he appear a little more moderate on this issue. Would it have killed him?

Whatever the merits, if he loses it will be because he doesn't know how to STFU any more than Trump or Moore. 

At least Don Siegelman is finally out of the prison Karl Rove threw him in. Obama was a jerk not pardoning him. 

[TotallyOz]

Trump now endorses Roy Moore and the RNC is now supporting him. It looks like 2018 has a good issue for democrats to rally behind, the party of Trump and Moore.

[MsGuy]

Apparently there are just (barely) enough  voters in Alabama who have tired enough of Moore's act to wait 3 years before electing another Republican to the Senate.

Yea!

I guess.

[Guest mrb43]

Yay!!!

Doug Jones WON!!!!

[AdamSmith]

2 hours ago, MsGuy said:

Apparently there are just (barely) enough  voters in Alabama who have tired enough of Moore's act to wait 3 years before electing another Republican to the Senate.

Yea!

I guess.

I don't know. This could just be the start of the turning of the tide.

Don't let excessive (realistic to be sure) cynicism blind one to the long-(long!)-term uptrend of the American polis.

We, nationally, have always seemed to have to go through the darkest nights to again see the light.

"e quindi uscimmo a riveder le stelle" ("and thence we came forth to see again the stars")

Dante Alighieri

[BiBottomBoy]

My understanding was the black turnout was huge and enough to push him over the line.