Members young11 Posted December 22, 2017 Members Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tomcal said: i would say a majority of the guys probably care less what you look like, you are a client and nothing more then $100.R+. but for a minority that are smart and look ahead futher then the next day they will cultivate a relationship if possible with a client...as long as he isn’t a jerk or asshole! imho i was just teasing BB81's irrelevant comments. I agree that it takes a bit of interactions to build a relationship/trust with escorts but smart ones really think ahead and I am willing to keep my business with those ones. I was actually asked by a few guys this time if I wanted to meet with them outside of sauna (they kept texting me on whatsapp or instagram), so I wanted to have an idea in terms of making them and myself happy. As my regular guy said "make it profitable for you and me" when I asked how much he wanted. Relationships last as long as there are mutual benefits, so I would like to keep it that way. I am trying to learn from the best @tomcal Tartegogo and Tomcal 2 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 22, 2017 Author Members Posted December 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Badboy81 said: AND you are in a relationship And I am sure you know a lot about the nature of the sex in my relationship, so you can make every judgement you want about it and it will be necessarily be relevant. 3 hours ago, Badboy81 said: Since you are confessing to us...why not confess to him Thank you for your marital advice. Without your incredibly knowledgeable insight, I would be completely lost! 3 hours ago, Badboy81 said: There would have had to be something going on with somebodies mouth for you to only get it from ORAL.... I am sure somebody who doesn't know how to write "somebody's" knows that a lot better than I do, and so, I will trust your immense medical knowledge on this matter. You sure seem to have done all the research before making such a statement. http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/gonorrhea/ Badboy81 and Lucky 1 1 Quote
floridarob Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Tomcal said: I always pick up the bill for food and drinks but none of the guys i hang with drink alcohol so that cost is minimal! I drink...... Quote
Tomcal Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, floridarob said: I drink...... LMAO!! I was referring to the sauna boys...and I know you drink, I always drink more when I hang with you! young11, Tartegogo and floridarob 2 1 Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 11 hours ago, young11 said: i was just teasing BB81's irrelevant comments. I agree that it takes a bit of interactions to build a relationship/trust with escorts but smart ones really think ahead and I am willing to keep my business with those ones. I was actually asked by a few guys this time if I wanted to meet with them outside of sauna (they kept texting me on whatsapp or instagram), so I wanted to have an idea in terms of making them and myself happy. As my regular guy said "make it profitable for you and me" when I asked how much he wanted. Relationships last as long as there are mutual benefits, so I would like to keep it that way. I am trying to learn from the best @tomcal My feedback/comments are never irrelevant but you are right...I should keep them to myself... When people are consistently asking for feedback from one person, they obviously don't have a clue how things work so Ill let the person you are asking give you feedback I do enjoy reading some of the questions though that are asked and wondering to myself if they are actually real questions.... All jokes aside, enjoy your trip and I hope everything works out in your benefit Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Tartegogo said: And I am sure you know a lot about the nature of the sex in my relationship, so you can make every judgement you want about it and it will be necessarily be relevant. Thank you for your marital advice. Without your incredibly knowledgeable insight, I would be completely lost! I am sure somebody who doesn't know how to write "somebody's" knows that a lot better than I do, and so, I will trust your immense medical knowledge on this matter. You sure seem to have done all the research before making such a statement. http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/gonorrhea/ You are always welcome... Glad to hear you got that infection taken care of... Hopefully you did send money to all 30 guys so they could also get pills as well floridarob 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 22, 2017 Author Members Posted December 22, 2017 42 minutes ago, Badboy81 said: Hopefully you did send money to all 30 guys so they could also get pills as well Once again, you don’t know what you are talking about: From http://gynopedia.org/Rio_de_Janeiro “Nearly all major hospitals and clinics offer STD/STI test -- and, if you are a legal citizen or resident, you can get these tests done free of charge.” They are hustlers, hoping for my ignorance of these facts, just trying to get one last bit of cash out of me. SolaceSoul and msclelovr 2 Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Tartegogo said: Once again, you don’t know what you are talking about: From http://gynopedia.org/Rio_de_Janeiro “Nearly all major hospitals and clinics offer STD/STI test -- and, if you are a legal citizen or resident, you can get these tests done free of charge.” They are hustlers, hoping for my ignorance of these facts, just trying to get one last bit of cash out of me. I said nothing about the testing...I said for the medication... Just giving you a hard time man....I am responsible for me so its just all in good fun Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 22, 2017 Author Members Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Badboy81 said: I said nothing about the testing...I said for the medication... Just giving you a hard time man....I am responsible for me so its just all in good fun if they get tested positive, I will happily pay the $25 that it costs for the medication. I am pretty sure the hospital will offer it for free though, but, sure, if they tell me that is not the case, I will pay. I do care about them. Badboy81 1 Quote
Members Popular Post Lucky Posted December 23, 2017 Members Popular Post Posted December 23, 2017 Tartegogo, I have enjoyed reading about your trip. I don't have any personal advice for you or any desire to tell you if you did anything wrong. Can't understand why others do, but you handle it well. msclelovr, Badboy81, numerito and 4 others 7 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 24, 2017 Author Members Posted December 24, 2017 New health update. I lost 3 pounds during my travels! Not sure if it was the constant walking around & visiting during the day, or the (on average) 3 fucks per night during the evenings. Hopefully the second, I’d rather have another good reason to fuck more often. Quote
Stray528 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Thanks for all the detailed notes Tarte. It was truly a pleasure to read! And thanks again to Tomcal as well for being a virtual mentor / physical guide in the sauna. I have made several small trips to Brazil, but never had the stamina of you two even at a slightly younger age. Tarte - please don't mind some of the harsher comments here. I completely agree that gonnahrea is mostly invisible and not as huge a deal as many people make it to be. I have contracted twice - both out of sauna scene with random hookups. Also believe that without context, it's impossible to understand and judge another person's relationship, so like tomcal says, I agree with going about minding my own business. Anyways thanks again for the great read and I'm so glad you had a great time! P.S. I would not reimburse medical costs if I were you :-) Tartegogo 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 24, 2017 Author Members Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Stray528 said: P.S. I would not reimburse medical costs if I were you :-) Oh, I wouldn't want this thing to spread just because the Garoto that gave it to me is struggling to make money, and he feels this is not his problem. And what is $25 to me? It is so easily and reliably treated, it would be a shame: he would give it to other clients, those other clients then will give it to other Garotos, and by next year, everyone has it and all the sucking is exclusively with condoms. So if I have a chance of clearing up one or more sources, I'll do it. numerito and Badboy81 2 Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Tartegogo said: Oh, I wouldn't want this thing to spread just because the Garoto that gave it to me is struggling to make money, and he feels this is not his problem. And what is $25 to me? It is so easily and reliably treated, it would be a shame: he would give it to other clients, those other clients then will give it to other Garotos, and by next year, everyone has it and all the sucking is exclusively with condoms. So if I have a chance of clearing up one or more sources, I'll do it. Responsible and super Sweet! numerito 1 Quote
Members Latbear4blk Posted December 24, 2017 Members Posted December 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Tartegogo said: Oh, I wouldn't want this thing to spread just because the Garoto that gave it to me is struggling to make money, and he feels this is not his problem. And what is $25 to me? It is so easily and reliably treated, it would be a shame: he would give it to other clients, those other clients then will give it to other Garotos, and by next year, everyone has it and all the sucking is exclusively with condoms. So if I have a chance of clearing up one or more sources, I'll do it. I agree with @Stray528, do not reimburse the medical expenses. I do not know Brazil's health system, but I am going to assume it is similar and probably better than Argentina's. The boys can get tested and medicated for free in public hospitals. Of course they are going to claim they have expenses to squish more money from you, but you will not be helping to stop the next International gonnohrrea epidemic. Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 25, 2017 Author Members Posted December 25, 2017 34 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said: I agree with @Stray528, do not reimburse the medical expenses. I do not know Brazil's health system, but I am going to assume it is similar and probably better than Argentina's. The boys can get tested and medicated for free in public hospitals. Of course they are going to claim they have expenses to squish more money from you, but you will not be helping to stop the next International gonnohrrea epidemic. All right, we’ll see. None have claimed to be infected so far. Latbear4blk 1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted December 25, 2017 Members Posted December 25, 2017 Recently when in Rio I had an eye infection. I needed an antibiotic eye drop, but it required a prescription. I was told to go to a facility right behind the Metro Siqueira Campos called UPA. They took me as a client without any requirement or request to pay anything. It was very quick and I saw a doctor who gave me the prescription. I wasn't there more than 20 minutes. No doubt he clinic is there for locals more than tourists. Tartegogo 1 Quote
Members ferrar Posted December 25, 2017 Members Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Tartegogo said: So if I have a chance of clearing up one or more sources, I'll do it. Nice move. The public health system, especially in Rio, has basically collapsed. Rampant corruption and the economic crisis. You really don't want to have to get treated for something serious in a public hospital here. Just ask fellow member Ihpguy who has shared some of his experiences. Sure, they are free, and it shows. Many have closed and those still open lack for basic supplies and are woefully understaffed. The UPA's like the one mentioned here are patchwork initiatives, OK for standard vaccination campaigns, but with huge gaps in overall competence (along with an unenviable record of misdiagnosing folks). Tartegogo and Badboy81 1 1 Quote
Members Gotti Posted December 25, 2017 Members Posted December 25, 2017 I hope all the reverberations are successfully contained, but not for nothing, an epic journey with a fitting epic ending: an epidemic! Too much too soon! Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 25, 2017 Author Members Posted December 25, 2017 Notes about within-city travel: In Rio, I didn’t bother with Uber, taxis are absolutely everywhere, it is much easier to just flag one right here (Uber you have to wait for your ride to arrive at the meeting point). I never waited for a taxi in Rio. In Porto Alegre the taxis are less common, although you can still usually find one every 2 or 3 minutes. But some of the drivers are useless, one didn’t have satnav, and didn’t know the street where Mezzaninu is, so we had to use the google satnav system on my own phone. So I started using Uber which is cheaper and there is no cash involved, and obviously Uber drivers all have smartphones. Plus you don’t have to pronounce correctly you destination address in Portuguese, they have received it on their phone. In Montevideo the taxis are even rarer. At the same time, Uber isn’t well developed, you only have the basic service, and frankly the cars are kind of crappy in both cases. In Buenos Aires, Uber didn’t work for me. Not sure why, it say “problem, go on our help page on our website”. Even if it worked, the cars are often “13 minutes away”. I’m not waiting a quarter of an hour for a ride! So I was using taxis, and they are quite a bit more expensive. AR$ 250 to my hotel from the port, it is a fixed fare apparently Quote
Members mark123 Posted December 25, 2017 Members Posted December 25, 2017 I hope you're serious about reimbursing medical costs. Have you at least been in touch with Bruno? Badboy81 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 25, 2017 Author Members Posted December 25, 2017 7 hours ago, mark123 said: Have you at least been in touch with Bruno? Of course. Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 27, 2017 Author Members Posted December 27, 2017 Bruno confirmed he did a full set of SDT/STI tests and they all show negative (no gonorrhea, no chlamydia, no hepatitis, no nothing) For those interested, he should be in Rio from Jan 2nd. Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted January 3, 2018 Author Members Posted January 3, 2018 First “Sad story - need money, please” on WhatsApp. It is from one of the garotos from which I was expecting this to happen. The only silver lining is that I am glad I had judged him accurately. I can still see through people even in a language I don’t master at all. Quote
Members redxs Posted January 3, 2018 Members Posted January 3, 2018 On 27/12/2017 at 8:20 PM, Tartegogo said: Bruno confirmed he did a full set of SDT/STI tests and they all show negative (no gonorrhea, no chlamydia, no hepatitis, no nothing) For those interested, he should be in Rio from Jan 2nd. Can you PM me his photo and contact details? Plus details of other muscle guys in Rio. Many thanks xx Quote
