Members trzinko Posted December 19, 2017 Members Posted December 19, 2017 when in brazil, i somehow avoid boys that have been to europe or US before. i somehow feel that they have lost part of their brazilian "tesao" and that they are not so natural any more. also attitude can be problem with this internationals. luckily brazil is big enough to bring unlimited number of new boys every year. msclelovr, floridarob and young11 3 Quote
Members msclelovr Posted December 19, 2017 Members Posted December 19, 2017 Some of those ‘international’ guys who worked in London did have fabulous physiques and were great in bed (I dated 3). I noticed however that, when they returned to Brazil, they tried to maintain an international pricing for their services. floridarob and SolaceSoul 2 Quote
Members torogen Posted December 19, 2017 Members Posted December 19, 2017 8 hours ago, tassojunior said: btw-For a short cheap latin hop I continue on to Medellin from FLL where the guys aren't as plentiful as Brazil but are much cheaper and amazingly good-looking guys. Mexico's good too. But unfortunately almost impossible to bring back to the US. But, like you, I want for people to know that the pursuit of sex vacations in these places isn't cheap, no matter how low the rates. Thanks for the spreadsheet ! I appreciate the recommendation of Medellin. It is a destination I have been considering. But regarding the cost (if you factor in the cost of the trip and come up with something like a cost/orgasm...which made me laugh out loud): I would not factor in the cost of the trip. Fucking hookers is not my only reason for taking a vacation. I would be going on vacation anyway...Rio just happens to be a fun place to visit, and the saunas are only one aspect of that. For my own informal calculations, I might factor in the cost of the taxi to the sauna and the price of admission/cabin, and my cost would be nothing like the cost calculated by Tartegogo. Sex is also available for free all over the place in Rio. And I mean hot guys...maybe not the PRIME specimens at some of the saunas, but very hot and handsome guys. Tartegogo and Alaskabear 2 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted December 19, 2017 Members Posted December 19, 2017 It almost sounds like all these guys you are shuffling back and forth are "sex" commodities, not people.... Not exactly sure why, if its only for sex you need to traffic these guys to the US ? Surely there are plenty of men here ? Tomcal and Badboy81 2 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 19, 2017 Author Members Posted December 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, torogen said: For my own informal calculations, I might factor in the cost of the taxi to the sauna and the price of admission/cabin, and my cost would be nothing like the cost calculated by Tartegogo Did you notice I also calculated that costs? I know there are many other reasons to buy a flight to Rio and get a hotel there, so I included or excluded these costs in the various calculation, for anyone to consider which they think “well I would have spent that anyway on a holiday somewhere else, so it isn’t an ‘orgasm’ costs” torogen 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 19, 2017 Author Members Posted December 19, 2017 9 hours ago, tassojunior said: But how easy to bring them to the US? I like to bring my friends here as well as visiting them. Ah, I completely misunderstood the comment, I thought you were talking about cultural differences, sincere apologies. Quote
Members torogen Posted December 20, 2017 Members Posted December 20, 2017 @Tartegogo, I want to be very clear: I LOVED your detailed and timely reports. And I hope you get to take another vacation in the not-too-distant future. One thing I didn't mention is that I would only rarely be motivated to hire more than one (or maybe two) guy(s) per day, so my costs would vary depending on my orgasm rate. LOL. I'm very picky. Sometimes too much so. This thread has prompted me to start a thread of my own re: the best time to arrive at the saunas: Tartegogo 1 Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 12 hours ago, Suckrates said: It almost sounds like all these guys you are shuffling back and forth are "sex" commodities, not people.... Not exactly sure why, if its only for sex you need to traffic these guys to the US ? Surely there are plenty of men here ? I was thinking the same thing...Why import sex? I get it if it is more than sex but if you are simply importing hot guys for sex...you end up spending alot in the long run with lodging, plane tickets, spending money, their rates...the list goes on and on... I prefer to just go to Rio to fuck....I also enjoy the beaches....can get plenty of free sex and loveeee the city overall... Barcelona doesnt even have the hottest Brazilians...If you want the hottest boys for pay, they are in London and Madrid....And they tend to travel to where the money is....check Circuit parties, gay prides, etc. Tomcal 1 Quote
Members Popular Post tassojunior Posted December 20, 2017 Members Popular Post Posted December 20, 2017 14 hours ago, Suckrates said: It almost sounds like all these guys you are shuffling back and forth are "sex" commodities, not people.... Not exactly sure why, if its only for sex you need to traffic these guys to the US ? Surely there are plenty of men here ? I've known these guys especially well for some time and am emotionally bonded to them. I know their families and many friends. Many of their friends are also BelAmi pornstars. They escort in Europe but there is much more money in the US, especially New York and DC. I have 5 million frequent flyer miles. I also have a very nice guest studio attached to my house in the nicest gay part of central DC. A couple of them do not speak a word of English. They all have agents who schedule their clients. And our supply of good-looking first class working guys is limited in the US. I bring them over and they use the guest house for incalls, usually just for massage. Between clients we get together and hang out or get playful. Their last client is at 10 or 11pm. After that we always have great sex. Every day. For "free". With the best looking Bel Ami guys there are. And the sex a guy "brings home to Daddy" after a day hooking is twice as hot as any client can get. And I get to keep my cash for my 1 1/2 year regular muscled Marine power bottom. And he likes the guys too and we have threesomes. He has kids so it's hard for him to travel but the guys love when I take them to Key West, New York, Vegas, Cali and Hawaii. They make plenty in a month working here to take a week for vacation. And they extend their trip because they love the arrangement so much. More than one at a time is more complicated but the Czech guys like that the first time because of language. I don't know how I could have a better arrangement. Five gorgeous boyfriends, 4 of whom rotate here for free unlimited sex and 24/7 companionship. I'm happy. I just wish the scheduling was easier. Why I keep looking for a couple more. Anyway, this thread is on Brazil. msclelovr, SolaceSoul, Alaskabear and 3 others 6 Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 21 hours ago, tassojunior said: I've known these guys especially well for some time and am emotionally bonded to them. I know their families and many friends. Many of their friends are also BelAmi pornstars. They escort in Europe but there is much more money in the US, especially New York and DC. I have 5 million frequent flyer miles. I also have a very nice guest studio attached to my house in the nicest gay part of central DC. A couple of them do not speak a word of English. They all have agents who schedule their clients. And our supply of good-looking first class working guys is limited in the US. I bring them over and they use the guest house for incalls, usually just for massage. Between clients we get together and hang out or get playful. Their last client is at 10 or 11pm. After that we always have great sex. Every day. For "free". With the best looking Bel Ami guys there are. And the sex a guy "brings home to Daddy" after a day hooking is twice as hot as any client can get. And I get to keep my cash for my 1 1/2 year regular muscled Marine power bottom. And he likes the guys too and we have threesomes. He has kids so it's hard for him to travel but the guys love when I take them to Key West, New York, Vegas, Cali and Hawaii. They make plenty in a month working here to take a week for vacation. And they extend their trip because they love the arrangement so much. More than one at a time is more complicated but the Czech guys like that the first time because of language. I don't know how I could have a better arrangement. Five gorgeous boyfriends, 4 of whom rotate here for free unlimited sex and 24/7 companionship. I'm happy. I just wish the scheduling was easier. Why I keep looking for a couple more. Anyway, this thread is on Brazil. Sounds like the perfect fantasy but if you say so... Enjoy tassojunior 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 21, 2017 Author Members Posted December 21, 2017 Health update:Since Monday I have been feeling a burn when urinating.So my Tuesday appointment with my US doctor was very welcome.He ordered a full series of tests as I asked, but also gave me 2 tablets for gonorrhea and chlamydia right away.The blood test came in yesterday and showed me free of all types of hepatitis, hiv etc.The urine test just came in and confirmed that I had contracted gonorrhea.The burn is already nearly fully disappeared, so those pills seem to have done the trick. Still talking to the doctor until he calls for an “all clear”.I have informed everyone with who I was still in contact with from South America Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 21, 2017 Author Members Posted December 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, Tartegogo said: I have informed everyone with who I was still in contact with from South America New update. Several of the guys I have informed of this are now texting back saying I need to send them money to pay for the doctor’s visit. Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 55 minutes ago, Tartegogo said: Health update:Since Monday I have been feeling a burn when urinating.So my Tuesday appointment with my US doctor was very welcome.He ordered a full series of tests as I asked, but also gave me 2 tablets for gonorrhea and chlamydia right away.The blood test came in yesterday and showed me free of all types of hepatitis, hiv etc.The urine test just came in and confirmed that I had contracted gonorrhea.The burn is already nearly fully disappeared, so those pills seem to have done the trick. Still talking to the doctor until he calls for an “all clear”.I have informed everyone with who I was still in contact with from South America Dude you are over sharing but what the fuck were you doing in Brazil? I have been traveling to Brazil for over 14 yrs and never, knock on wood, caught anything. I always use a condom...Not huge on oral to begin with so Im not giving or receiving any fluids and the one or two times I slipped up, it was with guys I have had consistent contact/relations with... Seriously...what the fuck were you doing....aside from the obvious... Im sure we all appreciate you being WAY too honest but why in the world would you risk catching anything with a partner...That shit is absolutely crazy, especially since you arent some seemingly irresponsible young kid or somebody who is just completely careless... When having sex with TONS of random guys...I advise to to try and be as careful as possible.... Now Im going to be examining all the guys Im interested in next week extra carefully and you basically were spreading around whatever you have...GEEEZZZZZ Quote
Members young11 Posted December 21, 2017 Members Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 6:09 PM, Tomcal said: In my first few years of going to Brazil I thought that people that paid more then the "going" rate or gave large tips or presents where going to wreck it for the rest of us! that American would be seen as having lots of money to throw around... " how do you always end up with the guys that like to hang around and go out afterwards?' I gave up trying to explain to him... So just have a reference point, how much do you pay for guys to hang out with you? Just the food and drinks? Or extra fee per day? Also how much do you pay for an overnight stay? tomcal Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 21, 2017 Author Members Posted December 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, Badboy81 said: Dude you are over sharing but what the fuck were you doing in Brazil? I have been traveling to Brazil for over 14 yrs and never, knock on wood, caught anything. I always use a condom...Not huge on oral to begin with so Im not giving or receiving any fluids and the one or two times I slipped up, it was with guys I have had consistent contact/relations with... Seriously...what the fuck were you doing....aside from the obvious... Im sure we all appreciate you being WAY too honest but why in the world would you risk catching anything with a partner...That shit is absolutely crazy, especially since you arent some seemingly irresponsible young kid or somebody who is just completely careless... When having sex with TONS of random guys...I advise to to try and be as careful as possible.... Now Im going to be examining all the guys Im interested in next week extra carefully and you basically were spreading around whatever you have...GEEEZZZZZ You obviously haven’t read this thread. I got sucked by every guy that would give me head. Without condom. One of them mentioned here above, gave it to me. It is simple. Out of 30 working boys, it isn’t surprising that one of them had the most common Venerial disease. Anyway it is treated now. It is very easy to treat. And you can examine them, you won’t see it, it isn’t visible, even when it hurts. I should know. And don’t worry about my partner, I am easily keeping him away from any risk. Quote
Tomcal Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 43 minutes ago, young11 said: So just have a reference point, how much do you pay for guys to hang out with you? Just the food and drinks? Or extra fee per day? Also how much do you pay for an overnight stay? tomcal i don’t pay for hanging out, but i pay $400.R for basically 24 hrs. to my regular guys, i pay $350.R for a overnight for the other guys other then my 4 guys who i have been hanging with for the last 3 years. I always pick up the bill for food and drinks but none of the guys i hang with drink alcohol so that cost is minimal! young11 and Tartegogo 2 Quote
Tomcal Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 i have been going to Brazil for 16 years and i have never caught a STD! part of this i attribute to being in the medical field and part to “Luck”! As i stated earlier i have been with quite a few Brazilians...as well as Mexicans, Czechs and Canadians! Tartegogo and Badboy81 2 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted December 22, 2017 Author Members Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Tomcal said: To being in the medical field and part to “Luck”! Being in the medical field: are you able to tell a throat that could give you gonorrhea from one that can’t? If yes, do you check out the guys’ throats with a lamp? I need to learn this skill (obviously!) Luck: I guess I am really not lucky, then. First trip! Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Tartegogo said: You obviously haven’t read this thread. I got sucked by every guy that would give me head. Without condom. One of them mentioned here above, gave it to me. It is simple. Out of 30 working boys, it isn’t surprising that one of them had the most common Venerial disease. Anyway it is treated now. It is very easy to treat. And you can examine them, you won’t see it, it isn’t visible, even when it hurts. I should know. And don’t worry about my partner, I am easily keeping him away from any risk. The main reason I dont let any and everybody suck my dick....30 guys AND you are in a relationship... Another reason stay single... Since you are confessing to us...why not confess to him Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, Tomcal said: i have been going to Brazil for 16 years and i have never caught a STD! part of this i attribute to being in the medical field and part to “Luck”! As i stated earlier i have been with quite a few Brazilians...as well as Mexicans, Czechs and Canadians! I would guess you are also more careful than he is....Being a hoe doesnt not mean you are not careful or as cautious as possible There would have had to be something going on with somebodies mouth for you to only get it from ORAL.... The issue is how many people you passed it around to being reckless Quote
Badboy81 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, young11 said: So just have a reference point, how much do you pay for guys to hang out with you? Just the food and drinks? Or extra fee per day? Also how much do you pay for an overnight stay? tomcal Once again you are not Tom so him telling you how much he pays if for reference...He is well known and beloved so Im sure you wont be paying what he does or what somebody else who may be attractive or speaks Portuguese...etc...Keep that in mind.... Tomcal 1 Quote
Members young11 Posted December 22, 2017 Members Posted December 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Badboy81 said: Once again you are not Tom so him telling you how much he pays if for reference...He is well known and beloved so Im sure you wont be paying what he does or what somebody else who may be attractive or speaks Portuguese...etc...Keep that in mind.... i am not stupid lol and I just asked him as a REFERENCE point but thanks for reminding me "once again" (I missed track of how I was reminded before...) that I might not be as attractive as Tom. Let's not be bitter about each other on this forum, shall we? This thread is turning into a cat fight or at least it sounds that way when I read it lol I'd like to keep it as information exchange Tomcal and brockmiller 2 Quote
Members tassojunior Posted December 22, 2017 Members Posted December 22, 2017 torogen and Tartegogo 2 Quote
Tomcal Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 5:00 PM, Tartegogo said: Ok I am just back from “Farme de Amedeo” , which is supposedly ipanema’s gayest street. what is gay about it? 10:30 pm and all I can see is a mixed crowd of older people and straight couples eating in restaurants. There are a few sparse hot guys, but it isn’t obvious they are gay. What have I missed? I can’t be too late, this is Brazil, the night is only starting. i think it is like every else in world, chelsea, Weho,, etc..all be coming gentrified and less gay! Farmers de Amoedo other then starting at the gay beach only has ToNeAi as the only gay bar (Farme de Amoedo and Rua Visconde de Piraja) Tartegogo 1 Quote
Tomcal Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 i would say a majority of the guys probably care less what you look like, you are a client and nothing more then $100.R+. but for a minority that are smart and look ahead futher then the next day they will cultivate a relationship if possible with a client...as long as he isn’t a jerk or asshole! imho SolaceSoul, young11, Tartegogo and 1 other 4 Quote