AdamSmith Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Larstrup said: Here’s the link to the full indictment against both Manafort and Gates. https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download And AWAAAY we go! Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Just like a well oiled machine… I can’t wait for the 666 5th Ave., Kushner property to become intwined in this mess Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Also Breaking: Former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents in Mueller probe A former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, George Papadopoulos, secretly pleaded guilty as part of Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Bloomberg News' Tom Schoenberg reports. Papadopoulos had suggested that Donald Trump meet with top Russian leaders during the campaign. He pleaded guilty to making false statements during an interview with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.Developing... Quote
Members MsAnn Posted October 30, 2017 Members Posted October 30, 2017 Oh dear, it's going to be a long day for the orange Orangutan. AdamSmith 1 Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, Larstrup said: Also Breaking: Former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents in Mueller probe A former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, George Papadopoulos, secretly pleaded guilty as part of Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Bloomberg News' Tom Schoenberg reports. Papadopoulos had suggested that Donald Trump meet with top Russian leaders during the campaign. He pleaded guilty to making false statements during an interview with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.Developing... Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Here’s Papadopoulos, sitting at Trump’s “National Security” table ( left side 4th down ) AFTER having met with the Russians. Quote
AdamSmith Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Hard to decide if I want Twitter to ban him, or instead leave him free to keep tightening his own noose. Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Larstrup said: Here’s Papadopoulos, sitting at Trump’s “National Security” table ( left side 4th down ) AFTER having met with the Russians. 1. FBI indictment references this exact meeting, and says, “when Papadopoulos introduced himself to the group, he stated... 2. “... in sum and substance, that had connections that could help arrange a meeting with then-candidate Trump and President Putin.” 3. Which is to say, everyone sitting at that table knew what Papadopoulos brought to the campaign. Including Sessions!!! Quote
AdamSmith Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Larstrup said: 1. FBI indictment references this exact meeting, and says, “when Papadopoulos introduced himself to the group, he stated... You know, that wouldn't be a bad name for a new, timely & topical R&B act... * The Indictments * lookin 1 Quote
Members lookin Posted October 31, 2017 Members Posted October 31, 2017 11 hours ago, AdamSmith said: You know, that wouldn't be a bad name for a new, timely & topical R&B act... * The Indictments * It's got a good beat and you can dance to it AdamSmith 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 The Russia scandal has gone from phony war to heavy shelling Gone are the days when we need to debate about what constitutes ‘collusion’ and whether that’s any standard to judge the Trump campaign Richard Wolffe, The Guardian Indictments do strange things inside a White House. They twist the minds of an already neurotic nest of frenemies, turning suspicions into paranoia, press leaks into prosecutorial intelligence and financial concerns into colossal legal bills. Normal life ceases (if it ever existed) for everyone from the president down, as the indictments grow in number, the grand juries call ever more witnesses, and impeachment looms ever closer. Welcome to the first year of the Trump presidency, in which our protagonists have already proved themselves wholly incompetent in a succession of crises. There may be Black Sea ferries that leak as much the Trump White House, but they still run a tighter ship than this gang. Lest we forget, this is a president who wanted Anthony “the Mooch” Scaramucci to run his clean-up operation. So who cleans up now that the Trump campaign is the subject of so many investigations? The indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, along with the guilty plea of George Papadopoulos, have now taken the whole Russia scandal from phony war to heavy shelling. Gone are the days when we need to debate about what constitutes “collusion” and whether that’s any standard to judge the rogues’ gallery that peopled the upper ranks of the Trump campaign. We just moved far beyond the false equivalence with Hillary Clinton’s private email server, which so dominated the media coverage of her campaign, the final days of the election and a significant proportion of presidential tweets forevermore. It turns out that “mistakes” on legal disclosure forms, “misremembering” facts in front of federal agents, and distracting “stories” on Fox News do not constitute much of a legal case against the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and its former director Robert Mueller, who now enjoys the title of special counsel. Maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t such a great idea to try to stop the Russia investigation by firing the FBI director who succeeded Mueller. Across the street from the White House, at FBI headquarters, they might consider that obstruction of justice. But first, the facts we learned today. Papadopoulos is not a janitor-like figure in this enterprise, even though we barely knew his name. Here’s one Donald J Trump describing his foreign policy aide, at the point in his campaign when unkind souls were suggesting he didn’t have any foreign policy aides. “George Papadopolous, he’s an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy,” Trump told the Washington Post editorial board, alongside four more names that represented his foreign policy team. “We have many other people in different aspects of what we do, but that’s a representative group.” This excellent guy was, according to his guilty plea, tasked with improving US-Russia relations. With that mission in mind, he pursued meetings with a Kremlin-connected professor in London, who promised that Russia had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails”. Over several months, Papadopoulos was diligent in working his Russian contacts, including the Kremlin’s ministry of foreign affairs, as he tried to organize a meeting between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Within a month of Trump calling him an excellent guy, Papadopoulos was emailing not just his fellow Trump aides but also a “high-ranking campaign official” with a very kind offer for Trump himself. To wit: “Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right.” A few months later came an alternative offer: if a trip was too difficult, perhaps “a campaign rep” could make a meeting? If not, Papadopoulos kindly offered to make the trip himself in an “off the record” capacity. His unnamed “campaign supervisor” told him he should go ahead, but the trip never happened. For some reason, Papadopoulos lied to FBI agents about the “extent, timing and the nature of his communications” with the Russians, according to his guilty plea. Now, instead of a five-year prison term and a $250,000 fine, Papadopoulos is looking at less than six months in prison and less than $9,500 in fines. There are many ways you could describe this sequence of events. Collusion would be the mildest word. There are also many ways that Trump and his inner circle have flatly lied about such collusion. In addition to being tired of winning, America might now be tired of hearing such lies. “I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA – NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING,” screamed the president-elect on Twitter, just nine days before his inauguration. Just in case you didn’t catch that the first couple of dozen times, President Trump tweeted on Monday morning: “Also, there is NO COLLUSION!” Tweeting in ALL CAPS doesn’t quite match a couple of federal indictments and a guilty plea. But when that’s all you’ve got left, you may as well let loose. Trump attempted to claim that the news about Manafort and Gates was so much blah blah “before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign”. Nice try, Mr President. Let’s set aside the 12 counts of the indictments, including “conspiracy against the United States”, money-laundering, tax evasion and failing to register as a foreign agent. Let’s set aside the alleged $75m in payments through offshore accounts, laundered by Manafort into property to hide the income from the prying eyes of the US government. Let’s even ignore the fact that Manafort ran the Trump campaign as its chairman, for no salary. During that time, he fended off a potentially disastrous delegate challenge at the nominating convention in Cleveland, where he also oversaw the rewriting of the party platform to be solidly pro-Russia and astonishingly anti-Ukraine. For now, let’s just focus on the essential promise of the Trump campaign. Even more than making America great again, Trump talked endlessly about his corrupt opponent. He trashed Clinton at every turn for her emails, warning gravely that her presidency would be crippled by FBI investigations, especially in the closing days of the contest. “Lock her up” was the rallying cry of his entire general election, based on this supposedly serious FBI inquiry. Only now, the shackles are on the other foot. We always knew that Trump accused others of his own failings. Even Lyin’ Ted Cruz, in a rare moment of honesty, accurately described Trump as a pathological liar and a serial philanderer. Now Trump can serve out the remainder of this presidency living the life he predicted for Hillary Clinton. Making his final case to the voters before his election, Trump said the FBI investigations would trigger “an unprecedented and protracted constitutional crisis” because of “a criminal massive enterprise and cover-ups like probably nobody ever before”. He’s rarely been so right and so wrong at the same time. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/30/russia-scandal-phony-war-heavy-shelling lookin 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted October 31, 2017 Members Posted October 31, 2017 But as Sarah Fuckabee Sanders says: "All THIS has nothing to do with the President".....DUH ! (as HIS terrorized tweets become more and more Frantic) AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members MsAnn Posted November 12, 2017 Members Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Larstrup said: Breaking out the gin and tonic as we speak... AdamSmith 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted November 12, 2017 Members Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Larstrup said: that's Ominous..... Quote
