New Name for Boytoy Poll

[TotallyOz]

We want to know what the members think about the name. Some recent comments have let us to believe that a name change may be in order.  We want member input.

We will work on making the reviews simpler or moving some part to the forums. It is under discussion.

[tassojunior]

I didn't know there were reviews. We have a hundred (at least) informal ones in the Prague thread. Ditto for Barcelona and Rio threads.

BoyToy is a catchy name easy to remember. The 2nd one is generic but may get more hits in searches.

[Latbear4blk]

I do like Boytoy. It is catchy, it is already established, and describes very well a market niche, which is very helpful to develop your content and identity. 

[Suckrates]

Boytoy is more synonymous with what the site ie about.  Malescortreview and Mandate  kinda pigeon hole it as either solely a review site or hookup site, and I believe the site is more than just either of those things ?   If my choice is of the 3, I would stick with what we have. 

[MsGuy]

I hate change.

[Lucky]

The sad reality is that not only is the site not getting reviews, only 12 of our 30,000 members have bothered to vote in this poll. I submit that we have 12 dedicated users. The site needs to consider how to expand that number. Name change may help, but someone who knows what makes sites succeed needs to consider a revamp that will ensure a long life for Boytoy.

It really doesn't matter the name of a site with 12 dedicated participants. Unsuccessful would be the de facto name.

[Suckrates]

 

See, the Name is already catching on.....

 

[tassojunior]

The name is fine. As I said, we have hundreds of "reviews" in the Prague, Rio, Barcelona,  DC and a few other threads that are much better than the info you get from the stylized reviews common on all other sites, including the dubious ones on Romeo, Rentmen, etc.  If someone can deep-throat or is tight and a power bottom for an hour, or has 12 inches and can vigourously top for an hour, or come 3 times that's much more interesting than the "ambiance" or "smoking tolerance" or "timeliness". We have great frank honest reviews of guys, they just aren't searchable very easily. (It doesn't help that on Romeo and Rentmen they change their names frequently). 

I notice in the Prague thread that many new people come in asking for advice on certain guys and recommendations. Some haven't searched too far back in the thread obviously. But several of us try to help, even wading through the changing names. A couple of guys there have been miracle workers digging up old photos and history. But numerito, our eye-on-the-ground has moved and a couple of other deep-research guys are more infrequent. But that is the best thread here for finding honest experiences with rent guys and should be a model. If it were more easily searchable by escort name (s) it would be heaven. 

There doesn't seem to be any similar threads on guys in other cities, especially not in the US. And most of the ones on Daddy's are ancient and superficial.

Some sort of index or matrix of different names used by the same guy would also be great. If there were a thread with a wiki to add new names of known guys it would be super. With many guys now on different sites under different names it is hard matching X on Chaterbate with X on OnlyFans with X on Rentmen, with X on Massuerfinder, with X on Romeo, with X on Facebook, with X on Twitter, etc. etc etc. The gay client world is begging for an index. Build the ballpark and they will come. A matrix with user-edited wikis for each guy would be some amount of work but would be great. And a way to search the threads for those names would be heaven. 

But I know this would be some amount of work and escort client involvement here seems to be declining. There's plenty of beefcake photos and politics I ignore. I come here for info on BoyToys. 

Anyway, small as it is, BoyToy is by far the best honest review site there is and I appreciate the hard-working mods. 

[tassojunior]

and to keep the catchy name, catch more search hits, and make it clear to users this site is about escorts, how about BoyToy Male Escort Reviews or Boytoy MaleEscortReview?

[TotallyOz]

Lucky,

The forums and the main site are different.  At one point today there were 800 unique users on the site. Not on the forums, but on the main part of the site, looking around, etc.  If you submit that only 12 are dedicated enough to vote when most don't give a shit what the name is, I think you submission is lacking. That said, we have revamped the site numerous times and it does not increase forum traffic.

Tass,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I have added a forum for meeting online on other sites as well as an additional forum for reviews.  I like the idea for changing the title but keeping the name.  Thanks. 

A wiki type of place would be hard to manage.  Instead, I added a forum that people can link to other names when they meet someone.  This might be a simple way to keep people organized.

[tassojunior]

With 732 replies and 62,875 views the Prague thread has many, many multiples of any other escort or city review thread. That tells me it's doing something extremely right and would be a great model. I actually go to Prague more often because of that thread being so invaluable in honestly getting the 411 on the best guys currently in town. Down to the exact color of their eyes, teeth, cock and anus, how hard they get, how good they kiss, etc. I don't go to Zurich or LA because there is no similar thread anywhere to cut to the chase on who's good, who's no-good. Most of those Prague 732 posts have frank reviews of one or more escorts with different names they use in porn ( so you can see a test run) and often photos taken by the commenter. And I assure you there are tremendous p.m.s going on constantly for hookups and advice. That Prague thread is unique on the internet !

The Prague thread is tough to wade through. I can't imagine one new thread for all escorts worldwide being manageable.  Can't it at least be broken down by continent, region, or even states/countries? Maybe add one escort review thread in each regional forum or encourage members to start review threads for cities they visit or live in.

Thanks for listening to suggestions ! Like several I want to help this site. I depend on it. 

[numerito]

I agree with @tassojunior on the immense value of the Prague thread, and thank him for calling me “our eye-on the-ground”. I tried to be as helpful as possible on the bountiful Prague scene, and I contributed to the thread whenever I thought my opinion could be useful or shed some light. I also received many, many PMs on the subject. Like tasso points out, I have recently moved from Prague but I will still try to help.

I am also in agreement with tasso on the unique nature of that thread, started by @pauleiroa while ago, and on the usefulness of having similar threads on other cities. But perhaps this is impossible, because Prague is indeed a unique place. 

[Lucky]

5 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

Lucky,

The forums and the main site are different.  At one point today there were 800 unique users on the site. Not on the forums, but on the main part of the site, looking around, etc.  If you submit that only 12 are dedicated enough to vote when most don't give a shit what the name is, I think you submission is lacking. That said, we have revamped the site numerous times and it does not increase forum traffic.

Tass,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I have added a forum for meeting online on other sites as well as an additional forum for reviews.  I like the idea for changing the title but keeping the name.  Thanks. 

A wiki type of place would be hard to manage.  Instead, I added a forum that people can link to other names when they meet someone.  This might be a simple way to keep people organized.

Well, I cared enough to give my opinion. If the bulk of the members don't care enough to even cast an opinion in a poll, you don't have much loyalty to your site. There is no getting around the fact that few people participate in the forums. They are unsuccessful by any definition.

[TotallyOz]

1 minute ago, Lucky said:

Well, I cared enough to give my opinion. If the bulk of the members don't care enough to even cast an opinion in a poll, you don't have much loyalty to your site. There is no getting around the fact that few people participate in the forums. They are unsuccessful by any definition.

I think they have been fairly active recently. But, I use my definition and not yours.  And, without all the drama from other sites (minus a few threads here and there).  Like I have always said, I appreciate your opinion. But, everyone has one.  And, I appreciated your vote on the poll as well.  I only created this thread to see if the name was the issue.  Don't blame me for not trying to do things to get the site more active.  Instead, create some good threads.  You use to be great at that. As one of the most intelligent men I have ever met, I know you have the potential to create great stuff. Or, the potential to complain about things not being great.   However, you have the ability to help positively in one of those choices.

 

[TotallyOz]

BTW: 62 logged in users in last 24 hours and over 800 other visitors seems pretty active to me.  If only everyone would participate.  But, that is hard to get to happen.

[Suckrates]

American users seem to be less OPEN about sex, or at least talking about it.  Perhaps that's why European sites are more visibly

active ?    Americans carry stigma and guilt, and fear...  So I guess we have to settle for what we have ?  At least they are logging in.

[tassojunior]

The escort world changes like everything and there are always certain "hot" topics/searches-of-the-year. Escorts also usually work porn and sex websites. A couple years ago "Chaterbate" and "Flirt4Free" were the hot topics as so many wanted to know if certain porn stars had a Chaterbate or if certain Chaterbate stars did escorting and where. It was great to learn of a hot Chaterbate guy you could visit online who also did personal encounters online or off. That's where the clicks went last year and it was usually new small new sites found in google searches. It was great to learn you could visit a certain city in Columbia to meet JoseXXX for $40 an hour.

Now the Hot Topic for clicks is OnlyFans. Fresh amateur guys who work out a lot and are amazed fans will pay $10/mo each to see videos of them sticking dildos up their butts or sucking a pal off. and while they may not yet be pros, and maybe wouldn't, $200 is $200 if they're in your town and can please you in person. Best gay onlyfans searches return a lot of results already and there's an onlygayfans site starting. Inquiring minds want to know this stuff and will click like crazy to find out. 

Massuerfinder is another site of fresh young faces and people want to know which ones go to or well past happy endings for how much and how good. 

Just mentioning Facebook here got me deluged with pm's for Prague guys on Romeo's personal Facebook profiles. Now when I visit their FB page I see a dozen guys from here who are also now their Friend. That alone is worthy of a tread (or even site) but too much work for me. OnlyFans and Massuerfinder threads would also skyrocket.

Although the Rentboy/Rentmen model lasted for many years, it's all but dead now and basing reviews around it isn't very interesting or relevant anymore. 

[Latbear4blk]

58 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

American users seem to be less OPEN about sex, or at least talking about it.  Perhaps that's why European sites are more visibly

active ?    Americans carry stigma and guilt, and fear...  So I guess we have to settle for what we have ?  At least they are logging in.

 

Naw. Why do you think the users here are American? Besides, the market niche here and in the other site is pretty much the same (I know here we prefer the younger lovers), but there is no lack of sexual debates, or political debates, or whatever. Participation is very active over there. The mystery remains, from my POV.

@TotallyOz responding to @Lucky says that lately we had a lot of participation, but it is just always the same few ones who monopolize the activity.

[AdamSmith]

10 hours ago, Lucky said:

Well, I cared enough to give my opinion. If the bulk of the members don't care enough to even cast an opinion in a poll, you don't have much loyalty to your site. There is no getting around the fact that few people participate in the forums. They are unsuccessful by any definition.

An extraordinarily Trump-level definition of 'success.'

You know better.

[Latbear4blk]

I do not think the success of the website is being questioned, but the participation in these forums. The traffic seems to be good, there are guys reading and checking the site. They are just silent. The question is how to motivate them to contribute to the community knowledge.

[tassojunior]

3 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

I do not think the success of the website is being questioned, but the participation in these forums. The traffic seems to be good, there are guys reading and checking the site. They are just silent. The question is how to motivate them to contribute to the community knowledge.

Amen ! There are so many lurkers here. Today I've had several p.m.'s from two members now in Prague asking about guys and having me contact guys to set them up. One has never posted and one has posted twice. Worst, neither will probably post any results. Maybe I should go through the list and pm each asking them to post results. I know numerito goes through this too. Traditionally there have been a half-dozen  members in the Prague thread very knowledgeable of the guys who monitored and posted answers fast. It's slacked off a lot recently and I try to keep it lively with updates I learn of. I think I will routinely ask for reports now and go through my pm's asking for them. 

I'm a little disappointed in the response so far to the OnlyFans thread 1st post I did.  I get a lot of pm's asking for social media contacts for Prague plyable guys and Romeo guys. I tried to go into depth with the guy providing Facebook, Instagram, videos, even childhood pics. Of course he is in Australia. And he is dumb as a rock. 

But seriously, a roomful of gay men and no one else is interested in the guy above?

[Lucky]

23 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

I think they have been fairly active recently. But, I use my definition and not yours.  And, without all the drama from other sites (minus a few threads here and there).  Like I have always said, I appreciate your opinion. But, everyone has one.  And, I appreciated your vote on the poll as well.  I only created this thread to see if the name was the issue.  Don't blame me for not trying to do things to get the site more active.  Instead, create some good threads.  You use to be great at that. As one of the most intelligent men I have ever met, I know you have the potential to create great stuff. Or, the potential to complain about things not being great.   However, you have the ability to help positively in one of those choices.

 

I have also noticed an increase in participation. If we knew what motivated that, we could learn from it. One person dominating a forum doesn't encourage others to join in, but if there is only one person wanting to participate, well, he should.

As far as success goes, the site has longevity, which is a form of success.

[Lucky]

13 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

An extraordinarily Trump-level definition of 'success.'

You know better.

Once again one wonders if you are back on the sauce.

[AdamSmith]

8 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Once again one wonders if you are back on the sauce.

I hardly need to be, to be myself.

As you know, from periods of knowing me sober.

[Lucky]

So you are able to make rude comments like that without a drink? That's just you?