Why Is The Term "BBC" Used By White Men Alot!!

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

Hey Guys,

I just finished a session with a client recently, and we had a really good time, but what turned me off about the session somewhat is how he would always used the term " I want your "BIG BLACK HUNG DICK IN MY WHITE ASS".

First of all, why does this turn White men in Gay Society on so much to use such terms towards a Black man like it's a trophy prize?

Being from the south I tend to take those sort of "terms" of endearment seriously because it's a form of a stereotype that needs to be ceased as your making it more about race than the "experience" you hired the escort for.

I know I find it somewhat offense, and just don't understand how White guys can say this form of terminology like it's nothing knowing how racism is very prevalent in our society right now. Almost to the point of a potential race riot possibly.

I don't know guys - what do you think of this "terminology" of "BBC" being used a lot in the White Gay society?

Personally - I hate it. I'm gonna be upfront about it, and not sugar code it in any way, shape or form.

I hate it due to the fact it's a form of stereotyping towards Black men that's not necessary to use to make a Black man feel comfortable or good about himself.

I have heard from other Black escorts that it is somewhat degrading to hear White clients use this term to fulfill a fantasy that is kinda still "TABOO" in White America if they're colleagues who are not into Black guys may think differently of them for hiring a Black man.

What do you think guys?

JD

[Guest bobbalino]

It's, erm, both a paradox and zero-sum game ... when you are reduced to cock, cock reduction is the sole solution. 

[Guest bobbalino]

Look familiar?

 

[kjun12]

My belief is that this is just a part of the raw sex talk men often get into for excitement.  Additionally, you cannot propose that talk of a big black dick in a white man's ass is just talked about by white men.  Many ads by black men say, essentially, the exact same thing.  Think about it and you may realize that this is not done to berate black people in any way.  It's just sex talk. Not racism.

[TotallyOz]

Having an affinity for the darker skin, I remember being back in NYC in the early 90's.  I was young and in shape (almost) and I loved Two Potato.  It was a black only bar.  I was never welcomed by the masses as it was mostly blacks looking for blacks. But, I kept going and met quite a few sexy black men there.  I never understood the blacks only for blacks or the whites only for whites.  However, I do get white guys who are into black men.   I guess that is just my train of thought. 

Anyway, I took this one black dude home with me and he was fucking me while half my body was outside the window of my NYC apartment and he kept saying, "You like my big black dick?"  I kept saying, "Shut the fuck up and fuck."  But, I did like the dirty talk.  I like an aggressive man and an aggressive dick. But, those were in my bottom days.  It takes a special guy now to fuck this ass. However, ain't not white man ever been there.  Blacks, Browns and Yellows yes. But, white? Nope. Not yet.

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

Hey Oz,

I guess I never was into the racial dirty talk being how racism has effectively impacted my life in a negative way.

You know what drama I've encountered, Oz that affected me terribly in the escorting community behind racism. Plus being from Stone Mountain GA - I've seen a lot of racism that can be at times extremely horrifying.

I don't think it's me being overally sensetive per say, but just cautious to not offend anyone the same way I was harmed and offended to a point it costed me friendships, and almost my escorting career as you and many people are aware of.

I wasn't aware so many Black guys were into this sort of thing. I been coming across those who are NOT into this sort of stereotype.

However I am glad you shared your experiences as I was unaware Black guys are into this sort of thing.

New news to me. Wink.

Thanks for the info. Well appreciated!

JD

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

On ‎9‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 9:33 PM, kjun12 said:

My belief is that this is just a part of the raw sex talk men often get into for excitement.  Additionally, you cannot propose that talk of a big black dick in a white man's ass is just talked about by white men.  Many ads by black men say, essentially, the exact same thing.  Think about it and you may realize that this is not done to berate black people in any way.  It's just sex talk. Not racism.

A lot of what you stated makes perfect sense, but it's more of a sensitive matter to me because I just had an awesome experience 5 months ago with an ex-porn star/escort who racially berated me to the entire world/escorting community that ended his career along with other factors that costed me my escorting awards, creditably, and much more.

So when I hear this kind of talk I tend to forget it's all about a sexual fantasy versus berating an escort due they're race.

In many cases with me and other Black guys I know when this "term" was used from White guys it was to berate and not due to the sexual fantasy.

I will I'm sure once I heal from all the bad experiences I've endured racially in the escorting community I'll be more open minded, but still healing from the past trama of how racism or being berated did affect my life, and career as an escort.

[AdamSmith]

Black working guys here (Raleigh NC) use that term 'BBC' liberally in their ads. We white -- and Latino, and Asian, and black--- clients like it, and go hire them.

Sex work, selling and buying both, is about what turns you on. We relate to each other, in the encounter, as precious individuals privileged to be together. In absolute spiritual and personal equality.

[Suckrates]

I thought it was because us "white" guys love British television ?  

And for what it's worth JD, I have seen YOUR videos,  and you often mention your Big Black cock to the white guys you are fucking, so I am not sure WHY you posted this ?  

 

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

51 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

I thought it was because us "white" guys love British television ?  

And for what it's worth JD, I have seen YOUR videos,  and you often mention your Big Black cock to the white guys you are fucking, so I am not sure WHY you posted this ?  

 

Just so you know -  it wasn't me who came up with the title or the direction of those films. I personally hated it for so many years which is WHY I got fed up, and no longer work for those studios anymore.

One or two films being stereotyped was fine for me to get my foot in the world of porn at first, but when they start labeling you in almost every film that has to do with a racial theme of some sort in every film you do it becomes discouraging after awhile.

The studio would always place me in more stereotyped based porn that just didn't suit me based on the film strictly being about white on black dick.

The nature of the films at times was too racially intense, and just need to finally flee away from that after I saw I was only going to be labeled in porn I wasn't comfortable, but had to do here and there if I was going to get somewhere big in porn.

[TotallyOz]

50 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

I thought it was because us "white" guys love British television ?  

And for what it's worth JD, I have seen YOUR videos,  and you often mention your Big Black cock to the white guys you are fucking, so I am not sure WHY you posted this ?  

 

Goodness, I hope we don't hold porn starts accountable for the words they say in the films they make anymore than we hold actors to account for the people they portray or the things they do in their films.

My current favorite series is Fraternity X - here they usually fuck one guy who is often drunk or tied up.  It is acting.  Just like those "Straight Guys" videos are acting. No dude who takes a dick so easy up his ass is straight. Period.

[Guest bobbalino]

Interesting discussion. Like Suckrates, I wonder if the OP's protest is not a tad disingenuous, given the OP's ad herein ... 

 

[Guest bobbalino]

Like the director, perhaps the marketing manager for the ad had the reins.

If a muscle stud emphasizes his related attributes, I assume I can reference them verbally.

If penis size and girth, in conjunction with skin color, are larger than the norm they can both be described in an ad as above average.

[TotallyOz]

Do you realize that the questions in that ad are required answers?  Each field must be filled out  Should have have lied and said he was thin dick and 5 inches?  I much prefer people tell the truth if that is his size.  I don't see any issue with the ad. Can you explain to me?

[Guest bobbalino]

I can't explain having an issue with the ad cuz there is no issue with the ad. An issue arises from an exigent. The exigent is the "issue" or problem I and perhaps some others have with the OP's complaint. 

The exigent is that an escort advertises descriptively, with a degree of hyperbole that panders to the intended clients' target fantasies. The original post enables a reiteration of those differentially valued attributes ... well endowed generally being positively valued. The advertiser then describes being apparently differentially valued by clients who invoke the advertiser's descriptors when relaying their excitement about the fantasy implicitly underscored in the ad. What follows from this exigent is a reaction on my part: Say what!? 

"Huge" is hyperbole. So is all hyperbole now objectively honest? News to me. 

An non-racial analogy might be: I cannot pick up guys cuz I have done some modelling and I think my appearance is intimidating to others. What should I do? Thoughts?

If I am the one here who protesteth too much, that is on me. But the whole thing simply did not sit well with me. That's all. I question whether the motives were as simple as seeking reassurrance about values and motives. 

[Guest Larstrup]

Anyone who engages in the very acts which they personally purport and rant about to be racist, and then complains about it as an attack on their race; are not experiencing and witnessing racism. They are witnessing the complete failure of their own personal moral code and character. 

[Guest bobbalino]

6 minutes ago, Larstrup said:

Anyone who engages in the very acts which they personally purport and rant about to be racist, and then complains about it as an attack on their race; are not experiencing and witnessing racism. They are witnessing the complete failure of their own personal moral code and character. 

Sorry ... I think the last sentence is harsh. I don't want this thread to be binary with my contribution seen as aligned with this kind of opining. 

[Guest Larstrup]

17 minutes ago, bobbalino said:

Sorry ... I think the last sentence is harsh. I don't want this thread to be binary with my contribution seen as aligned with this kind of opining. 

I don't think it's harsh at all. If you participate in behaviors which you deem and purport to be racist, but then afterwards, play the race card and ask people for sympathy and/or understanding; that's a moral and character issue. Not racism.

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

3 hours ago, Larstrup said:

Anyone who engages in the very acts which they personally purport and rant about to be racist, and then complains about it as an attack on their race; are not experiencing and witnessing racism. They are witnessing the complete failure of their own personal moral code and character. 

You're totally making no sense whatsoever (as usual) to what the concern was about, and it's alleged commits like this that is very disheartening to what the purpose of the thread is about as I think I explained in FULL detail of why the thread was created in the first place.

I can care less as it just "mean-girls" trying to pick a fight or have something to bitch about the OP which I'm not participating in nor allowing for non-sense drama occur on this thread.

If you "girls" don't wanna get "checked" then don't start BS. If you don't like what I have to say (or anyone else for that matter who are giving non-abusive feedback) then don't commit as I have a right to express my concerns on this forum as well as you all do, and the reason you wanna pick on someone is to be "bullies" and control people, and your not controlling me as I will put you in "check" the moment you do.

Be nice and cooperate as ANY normal human being (with common sense would do) or I'll just put you in "check" everytime, and so will Oz (I'm sure) if he feels you "mean-girls" get completely out of line as he too said himself sees what's some of you are posting as a form of attack towards me doesn't make any sense whatsoever like the whole ad issue which is required to form a profile on the site.

Your friend (Bobalino) needs to find actual FACTS to pick on someone about, and not petty stuff like what's on someone's ad that's an actual requirement on the site. You made yourself look stupid on that one (sorry to say).

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

4 hours ago, bobbalino said:

I can't explain having an issue with the ad cuz there is no issue with the ad. An issue arises from an exigent. The exigent is the "issue" or problem I and perhaps some others have with the OP's complaint. 

The exigent is that an escort advertises descriptively, with a degree of hyperbole that panders to the intended clients' target fantasies. The original post enables a reiteration of those differentially valued attributes ... well endowed generally being positively valued. The advertiser then describes being apparently differentially valued by clients who invoke the advertiser's descriptors when relaying their excitement about the fantasy implicitly underscored in the ad. What follows from this exigent is a reaction on my part: Say what!? 

"Huge" is hyperbole. So is all hyperbole now objectively honest? News to me. 

An non-racial analogy might be: I cannot pick up guys cuz I have done some modelling and I think my appearance is intimidating to others. What should I do? Thoughts?

If I am the one here who protesteth too much, that is on me. But the whole thing simply did not sit well with me. That's all. I question whether the motives were as simple as seeking reassurrance about values and motives. 

You need to seriously read in further detail as to what the thread is about and quit being bitchy and making assumptions as what your saying (I do hope you realize) doesn't make any sense, and is another form of attack, and totally missing the point to what the actual thread or concern was regarding.

Maybe if you read what the concerns were and stop the BS with trying to knock the thread down (or me for that matter) it'll make better sense. How about if you try that. Wink.

No one insulted you or attacked anyone on this forum by creating this thread, so stop making this thread look as an insult as no "insult" was intended here as some of you (who are ANTI-JD) are taking whatever I say personally which is only making you all look bad, and not me as I didn't insult anybody by voicing an opinion that was put in simple facts of what my concern was about.

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

3 hours ago, bobbalino said:

Sorry ... I think the last sentence is harsh. I don't want this thread to be binary with my contribution seen as aligned with this kind of opining. 

It wasn't only harsh, but going way over the line, and shows how narrow-minded this poster is that he only wants to bitch and moan on ANYTHING I post and make it look as it's a catastrophe of some kind.

It's quite sad (in my opinion) to tell you the truth how people just wanna knock you down whatever chance they get apparently.

 

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

5 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

Do you realize that the questions in that ad are required answers?  Each field must be filled out  Should have lied and said he was thin dick and 5 inches?  I much prefer people tell the truth if that is his size.  I don't see any issue with the ad. Can you explain to me?

My thoughts exactly, Oz. Just "mean-girls" going at it again as none of that whole ad post made sense as you nailed it right on the nose.

Just made the poster look ridiculously petty and just looking for something to nab at me for which didn't work in his favor apparently.

Thanks for such feedback, Oz. Truly was helpful.

JD

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

14 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Black working guys here (Raleigh NC) use that term 'BBC' liberally in their ads. We white -- and Latino, and Asian, and black--- clients like it, and go hire them.

Sex work, selling and buying both, is about what turns you on. We relate to each other, in the encounter, as precious individuals privileged to be together. In absolute spiritual and personal equality.

Hi Adam,

Thanks for your feedback, and totally agree 100% to what you stated. Even though Black men may use this "terminology" and be okay with using it - I guess I'm not ok with it being how this past year being rough as it was with the whole KJ mess of me being racially harassed by him publically that caused some serious consequences for both me and him in the end - just changed my views somewhat on how I don't care to have race as a factor when it comes to being hired.

When I did porn that had the whole White on Black Dick series, I was playing a role to what the director wanted, but never was comfortable with the whole concept or nature of the films so racially focused.

When I won Escort Of The Year in 2016, and a client took me out to dinner in my honor the very next day, I remember the client telling me how he wanted to use the "N" word in a future session as a fantasy. I was against it, and told him it's a degrading word that's used to degrade Black people, and don't care for it to be used in the session because it's uncomfortable. He said, "I thought as the first Black Escort Of The Year, JD, you'd be more open-minded to these sort of request, and not be sensetive about it as me degrading you". My response to him was, " Yes I'm open-minded of course, but not to a point of being disrespected or do things that are uncomfortable or harmful that maybe crossing the line for both parties to face or regret down the line."

His response later was " I find it odd, JD, being how Black men use it towards one another all the time". Like I told him, " I'm not those other Black men who are openly free with they're clients using this term as a fantasy, and quite frankly I don't like it when Black people use such a word towards each other or even towards me as I correct them each and every time". " Just cause Black people may use it towards one another doesn't mean every Black person is okay with it - and I'm one of them".

I think what I told the client was very sincere and honest to how using such a degrading word in a session makes me feel, and didn't do anything wrong or harm by telling him so.

Another example I shared with the client was how a close friend and mentor at the time (whom I'm longer close friends with anymore sometimes bully me with the "N" word) would use this word in a manipulative manner to easily prove a point, and didn't see himself as racist.

His excuse towards me at times was " Well Black people use it towards one another, and in music all the time". " Why is it so bad when White people use it to prove a point to something - got to stop being the "Angry Black Man" and just accept it as I mean no harm by it".

To me - it was a form of disrespect as I asked him not to use this word in my presence, and it was used anyway.

Now you tell me, Adam or anyone else on this forum -  if that was acceptable or not for this "supposed" friend of mine to use the "N" word towards me for his benefit, but state cause Black people use it gives him a right to use it towards me even though he knew I was against it being used by ANYBODY.

I would never disrespect anyone in calling them out of they're race, and have always been raised in an upbringing of "Do onto others as you would like to be treated with kindness and respect", and always followed that rule.

I find it sad there were a lot of people who didn't have the same respect for me at times, and took my kindness for weakness, but there are some people in this world I think that do respect others, and that's why I tend to follow making friends or have clients in my life who have the same morals which are simple common sense courtesy towards others.

Hell, the whole EOY downfall for me was partly due to racism and sexism on how open minded I was for a woman (who is a close friend to many escorts in the community) to come to a well known gathering, and unfortunately that exploded to a catastrophe that led ALOT of members hating me in the end due to this suggestion.

I wont go into what the specifics were all over again due to respect for Oz, and fellow forum members, but due to racism costed me a lot of grief I didn't ask for such as my career as an escort almost being destroyed, Escort Of The Year being tarnished due to personal vendettas outside of escorting, friends in the escorting community who bailed on me and turned against me on the count of they're racist and sexist clients hating me, and so they didn't lose they're clients by being friends with me these escorts turned they're backs on me. 

It hurts how my kindness in various factors towards others was used against me in a vicious and unkind manner in the end, but will admit has made me a stronger person to fight for what's right, and not let others rule you and disrespect you cause they feel they can.

I didn't ask for all that drama to happen like it did as I been nothing but kind to everybody who crossed my path, but was done wrong partly due to racism, and that's why I am very strict when it comes to any client wanting to use this word at they're own free will that may not set well with me due to the trauma I've experienced on the count of such a word being used against me or towards me in a negative way.

I love people of all races and genders, and do treat people with respect as an escort or non-escort situation whether it's social with a friend or in the bedroom with a client.

You have never seen me publically berate or degrade someone or there race EVER, and never will. Even if someone calls me out of my race - I would never do the same. Not in my nature. I may call them something else (hehe) that is in truth of there unacceptable behavior towards me, but never anything that will degrade them racially. That's just a path I don't care to cross, and I refuse to call someone socially the "N" word - even if it is in my own race.

It's just good (for me that is) to keep my head up, and try to remain positive in life. To keep being the best sex worker I can possibly be, and keep being a joy to my clients as they are to me. :).

 

[kjun12]

11 hours ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

Just so you know -  it wasn't me who came up with the title or the direction of those films. I personally hated it for so many years which is WHY I got fed up, and no longer work for those studios anymore.

One or two films being stereotyped was fine for me to get my foot in the world of porn at first, but when they start labeling you in almost every film that has to do with a racial theme of some sort in every film you do it becomes discouraging after awhile.

The studio would always place me in more stereotyped based porn that just didn't suit me based on the film strictly being about white on black dick.

The nature of the films at times was too racially intense, and just need to finally flee away from that after I saw I was only going to be labeled in porn I wasn't comfortable, but had to do here and there if I was going to get somewhere big in porn.

 

[kjun12]

I have felt since you began this topic that it was of questionable veracity but now I label it, at best,  as not well thought out.