TotallyOz Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I spent a few days in Singapore and homosexuality there is illegal. I did meet many gays but I find it horrible they can be classified as at risk for being arrested just for having sex with another man. It does remind me of the deep south many years ago. I grew up and didn't "come out" until I was 27. I didn't share my "secret" with anyone. Perhaps if I had visited Thailand and the acceptance it has with gays and ladyboys I would have came out much earlier. I still have some friends in the states that are not out to family and friends. Are you? Are you out only in LOS? Or, everywhere? As some say I am slightly flamboyant and not sure how anyone cannot tell I am gay so I have not choice but to be out to all. Even if I did, I lied for 27 years and that was enough for me. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 . Are you? Are you out only in LOS? Or, everywhere? Yes, I am out and have been for many years, although I am not considered to be flamboyant. I was fortunate enough to be stationed in England while I was in the USAF. That is where I came out. I met some wonderful, well adjusted guys who helped me through the process of accepting me as I am. Two of them are still good friends to this day some 45 years later. The two others, unfortunately, have died. Quote
Gaybutton Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I still have some friends in the states that are not out to family and friends. Are you? Are you out only in LOS? Or, everywhere? I'm out to my family. To me, the word 'out' in this sense means you have told people, personally, you are gay. Other than my family, I have never told my friends, but I'm sure they figured it out. Either way, I couldn't care less whether they know or not. If any of my friends back in the USA don't like it, too bad. I've reached a point in my life at which I'm not going to hide the fact that I'm gay to anyone, with the possible exception of a dream (well maybe 'nightmare' is the better word) holiday in Tehran or Taliban Acres. Quote
Bob Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Nope, not out (other than outside the states - besides a couple of US friends that I know from my travels to Thailand). Just a personal choice in my view and largely contingent on one's personal circumstances. Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I am not the flamboyant type. I am sure some people back home have figured it out. Being an old man and never been married, many people can put 2 and 2 together. To tell you the truth, it is none of anyones business who I sleep with. I like Clinton's policy of don't ask, and don't tell. Quote
Guest ReneThai Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I am "out" for many years , since I was 20 years old . I told my mother ,after she asked. Never had any problems , not in my work , not in my neighbourhood, nowhere in the world. I behave normally and my looks are normal too. I have many straight friends who accept me . Hiding yourself gives more problems I think........... In Pattaya I have many friends , expats , who are married , no problem . I also go to lady gogo bars with them but reject the ladies who like me (or my money ) Good luck to those who have problems in coming out !! Rene http://net.clubs.nl/gayholidayinthailand Quote
Guest laurence Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I spent a few days in Singapore and homosexuality there is illegal.. Do they screen incoming men for homosexuality? In that case, how did you get in? 555 You really don't think I would reveal my sexual orientation on a gay forum like this one? Quote
Guest Steve1903 Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Through personal choice and general lack of interest in explaining to people, I am not out. I am sure that some family members suspect and one or two are probably fairly certain but have never broached the subject. Quote
Guest luvthai Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Well its don't ask don't tell. I am a quiet reserved type and am not out to friends etc. I am sure my family has their ideas but its nice to keep them guessing. I guess that is why I love LOS so much it is the only place I let my guard down and while still reserved I feel free to be myself. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Do they screen incoming men for homosexuality? In that case, how did you get in? 555 You really don't think I would reveal my sexual orientation on a gay forum like this one? Just the fact that you read and post here tells it all. Quote
Guest topjohn5 Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Sure, I am out with friends, family, work. I'm not queeny so you wouldn't know it at all casually though. When, or if, it comes up in conversation I do say I am gay. If it doesn't come up I don't bring it up usually.....it's not an issue either way for me. I had to bring it up a couple times in my past when being hit on by women clients, hahahaha. My parents are of the age that anything sexual is not discussed and so it never is discussed around them. They have however shown that they accept it when in the past they invite my "friend" (lol, of 8 years and lived with me!) to holiday dinners, etc. They always gave gifts to them at Christmas even though there relationship with me was never discussed.... I also had one friend who told me once, when he thought I was about to tell him I was gay; "I don't want you to tell me".....that was very odd...... We were super close and it kind of hurt......we never were that close after that happened however. Quote
Guest GaySacGuy Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 I'm out to my family. To me, the word 'out' in this sense means you have told people, personally, you are gay. Other than my family, I have never told my friends, but I'm sure they figured it out. Either way, I . GB...I can't believe my eyes...you gay??? Tell me it aint so!! Quote
Guest GaySacGuy Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 I am out to my family and most of my friends. When recently visiting Las Vegas, I was asked many times by people who were told I lived in Thailand "Do you have a wife of girlfriend there?" My answer was "No, a boyfriend!" That opened some eyes, but no one said anything negative. I am not flamboyant and fairly "straight" acting, so people don't usuaylly key on it till told. Quote
Gaybutton Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 GB...I can't believe my eyes...you gay??? Tell me it aint so!! Ok . . . it ain't so. Quote
Guest xiandarkthorne Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Totally out since I was 21...in Singapore (never suffered any arrests or other consequences except for the loss of a few so-called friends)...and I've run the gamut from flamboyant to queeny to reserved to grouchy old fart. I'm now in the horny old slut phase in case anyone wants to know. Quote
Guest Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Totally out since I was 21...in Singapore (never suffered any arrests or other consequences except for the loss of a few so-called friends)...and I've run the gamut from flamboyant to queeny to reserved to grouchy old fart. I'm now in the horny old slut phase in case anyone wants to know. May I ask how the gay life in Singapore is? I met many gay guys on my visit and they seem open about their sexuality but it is still against the law there. Am I wrong? Quote
Guest xiandarkthorne Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 You are completely correct. It is still against the law and I do not foresee that being changed because the question of a person's sexual orientation can never be divorced from religious considerations anywhere on the Asias continent. But like many other parts of Asia (Malaysia included), it is a question of 'no see no wrong, no hear no know' so that those to whom such things matter can talk about 'becoming more liberal' to show the rich Americans and Europeans how democratic and and liberal "we" really are or are becoming and encourage them to invest more of their money here...and as long as those dirty gays don't make their presence too obvious, don't crawl out too frequently from under their rocks or talk too much or too loudly, "we" won't bother them until or unless "we" need something to distract the attention of the ordinary, decent, moral, clean-living citizen from more pressing issues. Need I say more? Quote
Guest ObamaBoy Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 I am not out. I am not flamboyant and actually quite conservative. However, I think my family knows about my sexuality although they have never asked. Some friends know, others may know but most do not suspect. I feel that whom I sleep with is my personal business and if you are not in my close circle of "friends who know" then there is no reason for you to know. I am in a senior-management level position in corporate America, not revealing my sexuality has benefited me and become the norm. In the LOS I guess I am out although most people do not suspect. My demeanor is the same in every social situation. Quote
PattayaMale Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Even though I never dated in high school or college, even though I played football and bowled, I lived with a guy or brought a couple guys to my house and we played strip poker (that was so long ago, when jocks just "couldn't" be gay). I was accepted into the Army Security Agency after a background check and later worked as a translator for the National Security Agency with a Top Secret crpyto clearance. It wasn't until I was 30 that I finally put 2+2 together..........denial was easy. I remember the first gay disco I went into which was 600 miles away from where I lived. I remember entering by a back door and pulling my jacket over my head so no one would know that it was me going into the disco. A year later I moved into another state to work for a computer company and lived with my boyfriend---we stayed together for 15 years. When my mom was aging she moved in to our house to live. We never talked about "gay" until one day when she was 78, I said to her, "Mom why did you never ask if I was gay." She sat there reading her book and looked up puzzled and said "I knew you would tell me when you wanted". I guess that is how I lived. Everyone knew (knows) but there was no need to ever proclaim it. Looking back now, maybe that is why when out with my female colleagues, they always said, "Look over there, isn't that guy gorgeous?" and never questioned when I replied "sure is!!!!" Quote
Guest Oogleman Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Im out when im out and im out when im in. So yes. Quote