Members endlessdream Posted April 21, 2017 Members Posted April 21, 2017 Sorry for being so judgmental in the topic, but it is how I feel about the escort situation here in Morocco. Escorts are everywhere and I have nothing against them. In fact, I love them, as long as they are honest about what they do, have a sense of service and be more or less fair. They are not here! The economy in Moroco is bad, so bad that few young guys have a real job and those who do make barely their rent. With the typical Arab horniness and their welcoming nature on one side, and the affluent tourists from Europe and Middle east, it could have developed a healthy and booming escort market. But unfortunately, it hasn't the been the case. The main problem is the lacking of work ethic in the whole region. I can't help comparing the situation to Cuba. Moroccans are as hot as Cubans, equally open to homosexual sex, but far less educated and ethical. Something good which came out of the communist years of Cuba is people understand in order to get something, they need to deliver something in return. Here in Morocco, they just grab and run. Which made things worse is the illegal immigration from the neighboring black African countries. Desperate situations made lots of them rotten. Several points can illustrate the issue here: First, Morocco is a muslim country. The escorts here somehow made this their avantage. Most of them are miserable and have nothing to loose, so they are not afraid of making a scene, especially the foreign black guys from Mali, Niger, etc. I met a young Moroccan cardiological doctor in Marrakech, who told me that two weeks earlier, he was obliged to pay 2000 dh (200 euros) to a disguised black escort when he refused to leave. Second, they never say they are escorts. Actually most of them deny that when you ask. You really need to be vigilant and dig really hard to get the truth. They have ambiguous way of answering your questions, such as: - I'm not escort. (But I still want some money for cab, and I paid 100 times more than normal because I was in such a hurry to get to you) - I just want to have fun. (But you have to pay) - Dont be silly, not everyone's escort. (But I am) ... When you try to let them answer just 'yes' or 'no' to a very specific question such as 'Are you going to ask me for money?', they would become silent, maybe for a day. Then they will come back talking to you as nothing had happened, until you ask them specifically again. Third, they lie about everything, they send fake photos, and they don't perform sexually. Again, if I take some examples of how they answer your questions: - They are my photos. (But they are not of me, but of a 'friend') - I'm always hard. (As hard as I can get, while you keep on sucking me) - My cock measures 25 cm. (Seriously you believe that? How fool) Just to resume, the escort market here is sick and disgusting. And it spoils the normal fun market, too. When people don't have any ethical bottom line, anything can happen. I personally would not recommend Morocco to those who want to meet local boys for fun. AsianExplorer, TeddyXG, Marc in Calif and 3 others 3 2 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted April 22, 2017 Posted April 22, 2017 Sorry it was so bad. I move Morocco and I find Moroccan men hot. But, I have not hired lots of guys there before. You report tells me not to. Thanks. Quote
Members boiworship Posted April 22, 2017 Members Posted April 22, 2017 For foreign adventures, it's probably best to visit Latin America and SE Asia. Lonely_John, paborn and Badboy81 2 1 Quote
Members Darkseraphim Posted April 23, 2017 Members Posted April 23, 2017 Morocco has fallen a long way from when William Burroughs, Tennessee Williams & Gore Vidal use to play there. It's a real pity that things got so bad so fast. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29566539 Quote
Members ronjames Posted December 21, 2018 Members Posted December 21, 2018 again one of my dream destinations knocked off its perch paborn 1 Quote
Members Studulike Posted January 27, 2019 Members Posted January 27, 2019 Such a shame to read this ! I worked in Tangier’s many years ago and had a regular boy who did anything butch as but was very accommodating and would bring his friends around for 3 somes and parties where we all got naked and I was desert ! Had many other other encounters Delma gorgeous guy who carries your bags home from the market for pennies that turned into more to knee tremblers on the beach but I shall just hold then as fond memories ! Alaskabear and flipao 2 Quote
Members Praguedude Posted July 12, 2019 Members Posted July 12, 2019 All my friends who have visited say the same.. Actually one of my friends was disgusted by Marrakech. How people are annoying and not polite.. That it seemed to me he was exxagerating... But heard it and read already from many_(. Quote
Members Casteran Posted July 13, 2019 Members Posted July 13, 2019 Marrakech is a tourist hot spot. The central market has many boys, girls, ladies, men trying to rip tourists off. While this turns many people off just ignore it. The history sites are most interesting. Four Seasons hotel very excellent. Escorts are out for money aggressively. Did I see any during my trip, no....too many warning signs of a con. Would I go back, no. Casablanca can be done in one day. Agadir was ok. AsianExplorer 1 Quote
floridarob Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 It's been many years since I was in Marrakech , but the area outside the old market was one of the cruisiest places I've ever been...also, whatever shop or store I went into...if the guy was cute and you locked eyes for a minute, they knew what's up. I've never been to Tunisia, but some guys I've met both in Brasil and BKK said that is so crazy good there, that they have bought a condo there.....is on my radar to go. AsianExplorer 1 Quote
paborn Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 5:40 PM, floridarob said: It's been many years since I was in Marrakech , but the area outside the old market was one of the cruisiest places I've ever been...also, whatever shop or store I went into...if the guy was cute and you locked eyes for a minute, they knew what's up. I've never been to Tunisia, but some guys I've met both in Brasil and BKK said that is so crazy good there, that they have bought a condo there.....is on my radar to go. I can't find any sources online about Tunisia at all. I would expect a current "hotspot" to generate some heat. Have you done any research? Quote
floridarob Posted July 19, 2019 Posted July 19, 2019 No research other than these guys telling me to go, that I'd love it. Quote
Members Riobard Posted July 19, 2019 Members Posted July 19, 2019 Marrakesh as a tourism enclave experiences same-sex activity tolerance relative to Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia more broadly. I believe Tunisia continues to filter online material, can legally detain prosecute imprison, etc, and its LGBTQ position and record on the world stage is lamentable. Wake up and smell the Shisha pipe. Quote
Members cactusjack75 Posted December 18, 2019 Members Posted December 18, 2019 As someone who has been to Morocco multiple times, I think the OP's observations are spot on. The fact that tourism has exploded in the last decade or so, especially in Marrakech makes the matter worse. You are viewed as simply a conduit for money. Not all Moroccans are like this, but unfortunately, so many are. I would say 80 percent of the guys I hooked up with in Morocco in one way or another engaged in some sort of deceit. As soon as the experience was finished, that is when the shoe drops and they come at you from left field either wanting money, even if no money exchange was discussed at all, or they are wanting more than agreed to. I had two experiences where the guy refused to leave the place until I gave him more than what was bargained for. It then became an almost endless haggle to agree upon an amount just to get them out of the place. Let alone pretty scary actually. You have someone in your apartment, that shouldn't even be there whom you don't know and who you can't report unless you are willing to be scrutinized yourself for doing someone in a country that Is strictly forbidden. This leads me to why Morocco is so tricky in these instances. Homosexuality is illegal. There are no rights and you can go to jail for practicing it. Hotels will not allow unregistered guests in. They are not legally allowed to do this. Any stories of a hotel 'allowing' or turning a blind eye to this I would look to with suspicion. There are a lot of legal risks for a hotel to allow a foreigner to host some hot Moroccan man. So that leads to really the only viable solution for a foreigner to host a Moroccan and that is in an apartment Most buildings have security/guardsman so depending on that person will mean the difference between being able to host in your apartment or not. Sure you could bribe security but its a risk. There are a few places you can get with no security or guardsman. This is the easiest way to ensure you'll have no problem even getting a guy into your place (hopefully no prying eyes are watching), but it is also the most risky because you are most vulnerable and the guy knows this. Some unfortunately will take advantage. If you don't give them what they want they will use this against you. They'll tell you homosexuality is illegal, they'll refuse to leave without an outrageous amount of money and yes, some are willing to be violent about it. So who has more to lose. Well the OP got into that well. You need to have a steely nerve to deal with some of them and they are used to a hard life and using hard tactics. I've been to a few dozen countries and have met men in pretty much all of them and nowhere else have I had as many negative experiences with local men, be it escorts or just men in general than in Morocco. For me, i'm done with it. Simply isn't worth all the effort and there is a real risk of having a really bad experience with a guy and you are completely vulnerable. So - it is too bad because Moroccan men are among the most beautiful in the world and they are usually very well equipped, but all the difficulties and anxiety associated with it for me is no longer worth it. kjun12, daddy4top, dscrtsldnbi and 1 other 2 2 Quote
pong Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 so do not believe all those cadinot movies are still the way it goes on there. For better behaved and a tad more honest (but not 100%) maghreb guys go to France. Quote
Members Europeanman Posted January 14, 2020 Members Posted January 14, 2020 I just don't get it. Why people take huge risks chasing dick in places like Egypt and Morocco. boiworship, Alex_Berl and kjun12 3 Quote
Members Lucky Posted January 18, 2020 Members Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 5:13 AM, Europeanman said: I just don't get it. Why people take huge risks chasing dick in places like Egypt and Morocco. Oh, I bet you do. Risk is an aphrodisiac for many men. Add the exotic looks of Middle Eastern men, and you have the chase! Marc in Calif and kjun12 2 Quote
Members Europeanman Posted January 18, 2020 Members Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Lucky said: Oh, I bet you do. Risk is an aphrodisiac for many men. Add the exotic looks of Middle Eastern men, and you have the chase! They can be found everywhere in Europe, no need to go to their countries. Quote
floridarob Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Europeanman said: They can be found everywhere in Europe, no need to go to their countries. why go anywhere then? I had amazing sex in Morocco AND Egypt, something about meeting them before they become westernized?? Met some guys in Brasil and Thailand that told me Tunis is great...... Lucky, Alaskabear and Europeanman 2 1 Quote
Members Europeanman Posted January 18, 2020 Members Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, floridarob said: why go anywhere then? I had amazing sex in Morocco AND Egypt, something about meeting them before they become westernized?? Met some guys in Brasil and Thailand that told me Tunis is great...... great until you get arrested. AsianExplorer 1 Quote
benoit535 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 Be carefull in Tunis....Tunisia is a Muslim country; Tunisians are nice but openness to homosexuality is far from being done. Europeanman 1 Quote
floridarob Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 21 hours ago, Europeanman said: great until you get arrested. Then why go anywhere if you live in this fear? Xclay 1 Quote
Members Europeanman Posted January 19, 2020 Members Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, floridarob said: Then why go anywhere if you live in this fear? You can't be that stupid. Edited January 19, 2020 by Europeanman kjun12, Marc in Calif and flipao 1 1 1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted January 19, 2020 Members Posted January 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Europeanman said: You can't be that stupid. Do you really have to be so rude? nycman, brockmiller, Marc in Calif and 1 other 3 1 Quote
floridarob Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, Lucky said: Do you really have to be so rude? No, he's just being stupid, lol How many years have I been traveling the having world having AMAZING times?? He can live in his world, I live in mine..... Alaskabear 1 Quote
Members Europeanman Posted January 20, 2020 Members Posted January 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Lucky said: Do you really have to be so rude? Sorry zero patience for imbecility. kjun12 1 Quote