Reporting on Rio saunas - January 2017

[12is12]

Hi Guys,

This was my second visit in Rio.

Fortunately, an English-speaking not-4-pay guy had responded to my profile on one of the websites weeks before I arrived, so I ended up with a nice, intillegent and sexy law student who was friend, guide and sex partner. We're still in touch, and hope to meet again ("don't know where, don't know when"). However, on days he wasn't available I visited the  3 saunas, all during evenings when garotos abound. In all cases I paid R100; when some offered a higher quote, I said 100 and they accepted without further arguement. I didn't try to bid lower.

202 surprised me with its pleasant ambiance; for some reason I remembered reading it was run down. It isn't; actually, the lounge/public space was the best of the three for me, because of ventilation, comfortable seatings and not-loud music. However, I ended up with a guy who promised everything I was looking for but didn't deliver.

Less than 5 minutes into the session it turned out that he doesn't deep-kiss and that he wants condoms for oral, both contrary to promises. I ended the programa immediately, went to the front desk and told them I won't pay. The very nice receptionist translated everything for a huge man standing there (who turned out to be either owner or manager or both). He demanded I pay everything; I agreed to pay for the cabin but not the garoto; he insisted; I stood my ground for circa 7 minutes; he threatened to call the police; I didn't budge ("bring them on"); and he relented.

I won't return there again. 

 

117: I had very VERY fond memories of the place, but I guess second time is never like the first.....

I enjoyed the erections, especially in the wanking room, and accepted plenty of invitations to try them out. However, the well-endowed (which is topmost for me) were also tall hugely muscled (which is a trunoff also because I'm a short guy). I chose an OK garoto, but the programa was less than ok.

 

NMM compensated for the others. The place is of course known for being the least nice of the 3 in terms of infrustructure, but cabins are free and for R20 you can add a fan (which I did). I chose Junior, and he was great - both in bed and in social attitude. In fact, I returned the next day just because he said he'd be there, but apparently I came too early and I couldn't wait.

 

Hope to post in a week or two about sightseeing.

Have fun; be safe.

(-:

[TotallyOz]

Damn, I miss Brazil. Thanks for posting!

[axiom2001]

On 3/2/2017 at 4:32 AM, 12is12 said:

Hi Guys,

This was my second visit in Rio.

Fortunately, an English-speaking not-4-pay guy had responded to my profile on one of the websites weeks before I arrived, so I ended up with a nice, intillegent and sexy law student who was friend, guide and sex partner. We're still in touch, and hope to meet again ("don't know where, don't know when"). However, on days he wasn't available I visited the  3 saunas, all during evenings when garotos abound. In all cases I paid R100; when some offered a higher quote, I said 100 and they accepted without further arguement. I didn't try to bid lower.

202 surprised me with its pleasant ambiance; for some reason I remembered reading it was run down. It isn't; actually, the lounge/public space was the best of the three for me, because of ventilation, comfortable seatings and not-loud music. However, I ended up with a guy who promised everything I was looking for but didn't deliver.

Less than 5 minutes into the session it turned out that he doesn't deep-kiss and that he wants condoms for oral, both contrary to promises. I ended the programa immediately, went to the front desk and told them I won't pay. The very nice receptionist translated everything for a huge man standing there (who turned out to be either owner or manager or both). He demanded I pay everything; I agreed to pay for the cabin but not the garoto; he insisted; I stood my ground for circa 7 minutes; he threatened to call the police; I didn't budge ("bring them on"); and he relented.

I won't return there again. 

 

117: I had very VERY fond memories of the place, but I guess second time is never like the first.....

I enjoyed the erections, especially in the wanking room, and accepted plenty of invitations to try them out. However, the well-endowed (which is topmost for me) were also tall hugely muscled (which is a trunoff also because I'm a short guy). I chose an OK garoto, but the programa was less than ok.

 

NMM compensated for the others. The place is of course known for being the least nice of the 3 in terms of infrustructure, but cabins are free and for R20 you can add a fan (which I did). I chose Junior, and he was great - both in bed and in social attitude. In fact, I returned the next day just because he said he'd be there, but apparently I came too early and I couldn't wait.

 

Hope to post in a week or two about sightseeing.

Have fun; be safe.

(-:

Damn, he looks mighty delicious and supremely succulent all over!   I'm ready to indulge as well as oblige!  

[Strafe13]

On 3/2/2017 at 7:32 AM, 12is12 said:

Hi Guys,

This was my second visit in Rio.

Fortunately, an English-speaking not-4-pay guy had responded to my profile on one of the websites weeks before I arrived, so I ended up with a nice, intillegent and sexy law student who was friend, guide and sex partner. We're still in touch, and hope to meet again ("don't know where, don't know when"). However, on days he wasn't available I visited the  3 saunas, all during evenings when garotos abound. In all cases I paid R100; when some offered a higher quote, I said 100 and they accepted without further arguement. I didn't try to bid lower.

202 surprised me with its pleasant ambiance; for some reason I remembered reading it was run down. It isn't; actually, the lounge/public space was the best of the three for me, because of ventilation, comfortable seatings and not-loud music. However, I ended up with a guy who promised everything I was looking for but didn't deliver.

Less than 5 minutes into the session it turned out that he doesn't deep-kiss and that he wants condoms for oral, both contrary to promises. I ended the programa immediately, went to the front desk and told them I won't pay. The very nice receptionist translated everything for a huge man standing there (who turned out to be either owner or manager or both). He demanded I pay everything; I agreed to pay for the cabin but not the garoto; he insisted; I stood my ground for circa 7 minutes; he threatened to call the police; I didn't budge ("bring them on"); and he relented.

I won't return there again. 

 

117: I had very VERY fond memories of the place, but I guess second time is never like the first.....

I enjoyed the erections, especially in the wanking room, and accepted plenty of invitations to try them out. However, the well-endowed (which is topmost for me) were also tall hugely muscled (which is a trunoff also because I'm a short guy). I chose an OK garoto, but the programa was less than ok.

 

NMM compensated for the others. The place is of course known for being the least nice of the 3 in terms of infrustructure, but cabins are free and for R20 you can add a fan (which I did). I chose Junior, and he was great - both in bed and in social attitude. In fact, I returned the next day just because he said he'd be there, but apparently I came too early and I couldn't wait.

 

Hope to post in a week or two about sightseeing.

Have fun; be safe.

(-:

Which websites are you talking about, where you met your guide?  Inquiring minds want to know!

[Guest KevinC]

Indeed,  I too would like to know which website to find a young, sexy, intelligent, English-speaking, not-4-pay, law student who is interested in older , out-of-shape tourists.

[12is12]

I think it was either Planet Romeo or Man Hunt.

Others: Gaydar, Manjam, Daddy Hunt, Silver Daddies.

[Badboy81]

On Wed Mar 15 2017 at 2:51 AM, KevinC said:

Indeed,  I too would like to know which website to find a young, sexy, intelligent, English-speaking, not-4-pay, law student who is interested in older , out-of-shape tourists.

Not happening...good luck though 

[Guest KevinC]

3 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

Not happening...good luck though 

Indeed, my post was meant to be sarcastic.

[12is12]

l really see no reason for sarcasm.

I found young not-for-pay looking for white mature tourists not only in Brazil but also in: Panama, Guatemala, Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, South Africa, Vietnam, Myanmar and China. 

[Suckrates]

22 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

l really see no reason for sarcasm.

I found young not-for-pay looking for white mature tourists not only in Brazil but also in: Panama, Guatemala, Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, South Africa, Vietnam, Myanmar and China. 

Maybe I'm really dumb, but what is not-4-pay ?   They act as your guide for FREE ?  What do they get out of it ?  Do they live in that country or in the USA and you take them with you on your travels?   Having recently retired, I might be in the market for some travel if I could find a nice accommodating companion. 

[Badboy81]

8 hours ago, 12is12 said:

l really see no reason for sarcasm.

I found young not-for-pay looking for white mature tourists not only in Brazil but also in: Panama, Guatemala, Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, South Africa, Vietnam, Myanmar and China. 

What do these guys get out of the deal? 

[Adamadam]

Have you guys never seen grindr profiles with young guys that are only interested in (quite a lot) older guys? 

I've seen plenty, some have been very cute and been rebuffed by some for not being old enough! Whether they were particularly intelligent I don't know. 

I go for younger guys myself but there are definitely guys with the opposite taste. Dismissing it as impossible is more of a reflection on you than the person saying they've had success 

[TotallyOz]

7 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

What do these guys get out of the deal? 

I have had well over 10 guys from 18-30 in the last 4 months.  None for pay.

But, a few 18 and 19 year olds I like are moneyboys.  Variety is the spice of life!

 

[Guest KevinC]

5 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

I have had well over 10 guys from 18-30 in the last 4 months.  None for pay.

 

Can you give more details? Are these young guys black or brown or white or yellow?  Are these "fuck and go" arrangements? Do you pay for their drinks/food/travel?  Do you teach them English language? 

[TotallyOz]

4 minutes ago, KevinC said:

Can you give more details? Are these young guys black or brown or white or yellow?  Are these "fuck and go" arrangements? Do you pay for their drinks/food/travel?  Do you teach them English language? 

I am not sure what part of the scenario you don't get.  I am not sure why you don't get that some guys like older men.

Let me try to clarify for you a little bit and I hope this helps.

Before I ran an agency in NYC, I loved twinks.  I met many at bars, clubs and sex parties. I had sex with many of them for free with no requested payment, etc.  They were white, brown, yellow, black. They were all young.  Three of these guys were so amazing they ended up working for me when I ran the agency.  They all made shit loads of money.  Some would call me up and say they were horny and ask for a client.  I once asked why and was told the clients were the types they picked up in bars anyway and they preferred to get paid when they could.

I am sorry, but if you can't understand why some guys like different types I can't help you.  I have a type myself.  And, old and fat men are not in that type. But, many don't like my type.  That is why Heinz makes 57 varieties.

[Suckrates]

I think the label "not-4-pay" is conjuring up some sort of business arrangement or exchange of SOMETHING.   What people are describing here are merely Free sex pickups if I understand it correctly, where perhaps a younger guy is smitten or attracted to an older gent.  Personally, i am guilty of calling those types of guys Sugar Daddy seekers, whereby they might not be bona fide escorts, BUT they are certainly looking for some kind on tangible benefit in terms of financial assistance or "gifts"....

I'm sorry but I am not at the stage in my life where I am about to support another individual when sex is really easily to find,  even for us guys who may not be "pretty" anymore.    

[TotallyOz]

54 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

BUT they are certainly looking for some kind on tangible benefit in terms of financial assistance or "gifts"....

Again, wrong.

But, I can't seem to convince anyone so I'll just let everything think what they want.  I have stated I hook up without any arrangement on many occasions now.  I have stated when I ran an agency, some of my guys hooked up for free with guys who looked like typical clients. Draw from this whatever you desire.

[Suckrates]

3 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

Again, wrong.

But, I can't seem to convince anyone so I'll just let everything think what they want.  I have stated I hook up without any arrangement on many occasions now.  I have stated when I ran an agency, some of my guys hooked up for free with guys who looked like typical clients. Draw from this whatever you desire.

Mr Oz, you need to start reading better and not be so defensive about this.  I didnt say arrangement. what I said was assistance or gifting from men that are generous and fluid with their money.  Boys pick up on this sort of behavior, and while there may not be a formal "spoken" arrangement, they KNOW they will get something out of the connection.  Now I also didnt say there werent occasional boys out there that had fetishes for, or psychological attachments to OLDER men, and just want to feel protected, safe (in their minds) and dominated, but that's a whole diff kettle of fish.  I have always been suspicious of hot young boys whose targets were not so attractive old men, but yes that is MY achilles heel.  (BTW I feel the same way about pretty young girls with OLD guys).  Mind you i have had sex with hot younger guys at bathouses and sex clubs, but that is one-shot shit, usually in darkened areas and a highly sexual enviornment. Its not a repeated, continuous encounter with the same guy, which implies some sort of "relationship".  That's when the lines blur and expectations come into play.  There are also guys that are always horny and in essence will have sex with ANYONE, regardless of age or physical appearance.  Its a coping mechanism for "Blue Balls", and I give these guys major props for their versatility.    And BTW OZ, there is no reason to "Convince" anyone of anything. We all have our opinions based on our own encounters and experiences, so PEACE it is.... 

[TotallyOz]

1 minute ago, Suckrates said:

Mr Oz, you need to start reading better and not be so defensive about this.  I didnt say arrangement. what I said was assistance or gifting from men that are generous and fluid with their money.  Boys pick up on this sort of behavior, and while there may not be a formal "spoken" arrangement, they KNOW they will get something out of the connection.  Now I also didnt say there werent occasional boys out there that had fetishes for, or psychological attachments to OLDER men, and just want to feel protected, safe (in their minds) and dominated, but that's a whole diff kettle of fish.  I have always been suspicious of hot young boys whose targets were not so attractive old men, but yes that is MY achilles heel.  (BTW I feel the same way about pretty young girls with OLD guys).  Mind you i have had sex with hot younger guys at bathouses and sex clubs, but that is one-shot shit, usually in darkened areas and a highly sexual enviornment. Its not a repeated, continuous encounter with the same guy, which implies some sort of "relationship".  That's when the lines blur and expectations come into play.  There are also guys that are always horny and in essence will have sex with ANYONE, regardless of age or physical appearance.  Its a coping mechanism for "Blue Balls", and I give these guys major props for their versatility.    And BTW OZ, there is no reason to "Convince" anyone of anything. We all have our opinions based on our own encounters and experiences, so PEACE it is.... 

We will have to agree to disagree as there was no assistance or gifting.  I guess I am just more handsome and sexy that your typical overweight grey bearded older guy.  I think it is my eyes. Or, they may have a Santa Claus complex. 

I agree we all have opinions. I just think mine are always right.

 

[Suckrates]

6 minutes ago, TotallyOz said:

We will have to agree to disagree as there was no assistance or gifting.  I guess I am just more handsome and sexy that your typical overweight grey bearded older guy.  I think it is my eyes. Or, they may have a Santa Claus complex. 

I agree we all have opinions. I just think mine are always right.

 

Excuse me Mr Trump,  I didnt know you frequented Boytoy ?   What would Malaria say ?   

[TotallyOz]

1 minute ago, Suckrates said:

Excuse me Mr Trump,  I didnt know you frequented Boytoy ?   What would Malaria say ?   

I said I think.  If I had said I know. Well, then I would be Mr. Trump.

And, you know she is with him for his charm and sweetness.  Right?

[Suckrates]

1 hour ago, TotallyOz said:

I said I think.  If I had said I know. Well, then I would be Mr. Trump.

And, you know she is with him for his charm and sweetness.  Right?

 

ALL that glitters......

[Badboy81]

20 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

I have had well over 10 guys from 18-30 in the last 4 months.  None for pay.

But, a few 18 and 19 year olds I like are moneyboys.  Variety is the spice of life!

 

Again...what are they getting out of it?

If they aren't getting money...surely they are getting something...

Even in typical May/December relationships there is a reciprocation...

College tuition...a father figure...some type of security...maybe a fetish...hell it could just be the idea of being in the company of an older gentleman...I myself liked "older" men in my youth for various reasons but I have a motive...

Everybody has a motive...just as you have your reasons for liking young guys

I asked the question to be funny but of course there is some truth in the question and all responses....

[Badboy81]

14 hours ago, KevinC said:

Can you give more details? Are these young guys black or brown or white or yellow?  Are these "fuck and go" arrangements? Do you pay for their drinks/food/travel?  Do you teach them English language? 

Yes...details please...Sounds too good to be true...

[Tomcal]

When I was down in Mexico a month ago I had a party at the house for 5 gay friends ages 53, 53, 45,40 and 34.  two were real estate agents I used, 2 were restaurant owners and one was the stockbroker friend of the real estate agent.  All are gay and 4 of them brought their BF's all of whom were between 21 and 25, plus two other guys we had met on the previous trip showed up. after sitting by the pool and having a couple rounds of drinks I went in to make more and the cute 21 yr old BF of the stock broker came in with some empty glasses, as I was making drinks he walks into the bathroom across from the kitchen and leaves the door open and takes down his pants and shows me his ass! I laughed but finished making the drinks and we went back out to the pool.  the next night which was my last night there, the 34 yr old realtor and I were again sitting by the pool having drinks when he says "i think someone knocking on your door!'  we are in the back yard so it was very faint.  I walk to the door and there is the 21 yr old twink!!  He came over to fuck!  the three of us had drinks and then he and I went into the bedroom. I found out that next night he came over and had sex with the realtor!   Now is this a case of your average horny 21 yr old bttm looking for fun or is it the case of him looking to upgrade maybe to a new BF?(he was very good)  I don't know and frankly don't care! I had fun and when I am back down there in 2 weeks I will probably run into him again at some parties but doubt that I would do it again for several reasons, but for this one time it was fun and free!