Are advanced bookings going out of fashion?

[EscortJamahl]

Just a thought....

I've finally been having a good past week or so in Nashville after going thru a drought season of sorts, and not just weather wise. All the once a year/every few years hires are coming out the woodwork. Hopefully some regulars come from it because as of now I'm only working with a couple. 

However, every appointment I've had has been same day...oftentimes with an hour or 2 notice. I've realized I did need to convey a more I don't take any bullshit stance in my ads. Specifically, as it relates...I've made it clear in all my ads that I need atleast 1 or 2 hour's notice. I feel an Hour for incall, two hours for outcalls is necessary for me. Occasionally I could swing it faster if I'm at my place, but that gives me time if I'm out and about, to get home, secure the place, maybe even eat beforhand. If I don't spell it out, it goes unbeknownst.

Thats been handled, but the main thing that still exists...I don't have any pre scheduled appointments. I mean, on the one hand it's great I can make 1,000 Unexpectantly. But on the other hand I'm pacing because I can't foresee when my next appointment is or what day exactly I want to leave out of town. 

I still get some stuff for advanced, but usually bookmarky type things. I'm talking about like someone want to book me for 3-4 hours. I wonder if it's because (as was mentioned elsewhere) escorts have burnt clients out. One client was telling me how he'd set an advanced booking with an escort last week, confirmed that week, and then the guy still no showed on him. 

Seems the days of booking 2-3 days ahead, planning finances accordingly seem to have been replaced by this microwaveable Grindr culture. It's more like step by step, day by day, fresh start over, a different hand to play...

 

 

 

 

[AdamSmith]

What I see among younger (like under 40) friends just discovering the wonderful world of hiring is that their main source is backpage, where most all advertisers ask for same-day bookings only.

I must say once again that backpage's shady image is less and less deserved as time goes on. I've found more than half a dozen reliable, quality guys here in Raleigh who advertise exclusively there, every day. Excellent providers, and good and kind people.

[MsAnn]

I don't do advanced bookings ever. If an escort is not available when daddy(no not that Daddy) wants a little nooky, then I go elsewhere and find someone who is available. BP is a wonderful source for guys who are ready, willing and able to book at a moments notice, as are the little dancer boys...You can even buy them off for the night, and leave the club immediately.

[AdamSmith]

24 minutes ago, MsAnn said:

I don't do advanced bookings ever. If an escort is not available when daddy(no not that Daddy) wants a little nooky, then I go elsewhere and find someone who is available. BP is a wonderful source for guys who are ready, willing and able to book at a moments notice, as are the little dancer boys...You can even buy them off for the night, and leave the club immediately.

Ditto. The only time I schedule in advance is with longtime repeat hires where getting together requires one or both of us to book air travel.

[AdamSmith]

I can add that here in Raleigh, backpage is also the richest source for female and trans escorts. Far better selection than eros.com.

[AdamSmith]

Nor is it just a regional fluke here in the Southeast. A working guy I know in Boston, whom I first hired in 2009 off craigslist, switched to advertising on backpage when CL got rid of explicit escort ads.

Working in Boston and touring around New England, advertising solely on CL and then BP, by this past summer he had earned and saved enough money to make the down payment on a nice house in New Bedford.

Just from BP, he has built up quite the base of repeat clients, including numerous mature men of substantial means. (I know this not only from his reports, but by happening to know some of them socially myself. A nice small-town-like aspect of Boston -- everybody seems to know everybody.)

[AdamSmith]

[Edited out -- accidental duplicate post.]

[MsAnn]

1 hour ago, AdamSmith said:

Nor is it just a regional fluke here in the Southeast. A working guy I know in Boston, whom I first hired in 2009 off craigslist, switched to advertising on backpage when CL got rid of explicit escort ads.

Working in Boston and touring around New England, advertising solely on CL and then BP, by this past summer he had earned and saved enough money to make the down payment on a nice house in New Bedford.

Just from BP, he has built up quite the base of repeat clients, including numerous mature men of substantial means. (I know this not only from his reports, but by happening to know some of them socially myself. A nice small-town-like aspect of Boston -- everybody seems to know everybody.)

 

+1

[AdamSmith]

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[MsAnn]

2 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Specific recommendations.

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All incredibly present, honest, with you in the moment, and afterward. Real human people. More warmth of every kind than I've known in a long time.

 

[AdamSmith]

2 hours ago, MsAnn said:

You got to stop posting my personal pics here. 

[AdamSmith]

P.S. I've seen a couple of them in their apartments. Judging from their nice digs, looks like they make a pretty good living off BP.

[AdamSmith]

They also have great contempt and scorn for escorts who catfish in their BP ads, thus contributing to the shady side of the site's reputation.

[EscortJamahl]

Well that's certainly food for thought regarding backpage. 

However, though Adam's advice sounds solid and well-intentioned...many escorts/clients have differing or mixed opinions about it. Also, I don't believe everything I hear and neither should you. A have a nice place too. But nobody knows the full story. Nor am I compelled to tell. I can say, yup...all from backpage and someone will believe it. You don't know what they're doing behind the scenes. I highly doubt anyone is making a full living from backpage alone. It's just not that consistent of a site. I was dating a guy who used to advertise solely on Adam doing massages. Just massages. In Denver. He was definitely getting money from other sources to afford it because no way in hell can you live off Adam in Denver, and he didn't even travel. 

Though I've met more good clients than bad from backpage, the average call volume can vary from slightly annoying to downright disrespectful. Adam4Adam is about the same. Although I've found adam4adam to conjure up more dangerous and swindling types than backpage. Atleast backpage clients usually want to pay. But Adam is more consistent across the board. In some states, backpage doesn't have the traffic that Adam does. 

However, I've cut down on the gross negligence of my time by maintaining specific verbatim to deter would be nerve graters. And surprisingly, the more cutthroat I am in my ad, the more the guys respect and wait. One guy waited for an hour because he called at the last minute and arrived before I got to my house. But he acknowledged he called last minute and I needed time to finish my shopping (had he called just 30 minutes earlier I'd of been closer to my house) so there was no confusion or upset. Such a sweet guy he was. 

This is going off topic, but for the rest of the year and into 2017, I'm cutting out a lot of the nonsense going into 30. I've allowed too much. And I'm not going to be bashful about making it clear in my ads. In this Grindr culture, if you don't command respect for your time, you won't get it.  

[boiworship]

On December 16, 2016 at 7:05 PM, AdamSmith said:

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Kudos to you, Adam, for taking the BP plunge! In the two cities where I live, the one in the NW has offered up mixed results for BP hires, although I have one in mind for next month. The SE city presents a host of flakes and much hyperbole, and I doubt that I'd hire there. Rentmen has tended to yield superior results, esp. lately. Oh, how I miss the old LA/OC CL Offerings!

[AdamSmith]

1 hour ago, EscortJamahl said:

I can say, yup...all from backpage and someone will believe it. You don't know what they're doing behind the scenes. I highly doubt anyone is making a full living from backpage alone. It's just not that consistent of a site.

Well, above I mentioned my friend in MA who bought a house with his earnings from CL and then BP, no other sources.

I know his life wall to wall, inside out. We would live together in his then apartment in South Boston for days and days on end. I know his family, and his best friends. He didn't hide anything from me; that was just not in his nature as a person. We both went way beyond the usual barriers -- and with entirely positive outcomes for both of us. We each gave the other some precious and needed human things that others in our lives weren't offering us at the time.

(If you just can't believe a professional relationship can healthily exist in parallel with a genuine human one, you have my sorrow.)

He would even show me, with deserved pride, his bank accounts and how his escort earnings were growing and accelerating, as he practiced, and refined with experience, his travel routes and schedules.

So I know beyond any doubt that his sex work through CL and then BP ads was his sole source of income.

[MsAnn]

I will just add that BP in FTL has proven for some prolific posters on the other site to be a most reliable and enjoyable source for young men. I don't entertain at the "Castle" so I  always go to the providers place of residence. The most recent hires lived in some pretty nice digs, had a nicer car than I did, and had better shoes. BP might have been a supplement to their income, I don't know, but does it really matter? I'm not looking for a permanent hire on a monthly basis, or a BF, I don't want to be someones sugar daddy. All I want is a little nooky in the afternoon that is DRAMA free, or the occasional dinner/afternoon out with a young man that appreciates a good time, good wine, and some laughter.

 

[boiworship]

One could be tempted by this lovely

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[boiworship]

10 hours ago, MsAnn said:

I will just add that BP in FTL has proven for some prolific posters on the other site to be a most reliable and enjoyable source for young men. I don't entertain at the "Castle" so I  always go to the providers place of residence. The most recent hires lived in some pretty nice digs, had a nicer car than I did, and had better shoes. BP might have been a supplement to their income, I don't know, but does it really matter? I'm not looking for a permanent hire on a monthly basis, or a BF, I don't want to be someones sugar daddy. All I want is a little nooky in the afternoon that is DRAMA free, or the occasional dinner/afternoon out with a young man that appreciates a good time, good wine, and some laughter.

 

I've never met one that had better shoes than moi, but several have been given shoes of equal value lol!

[EscortJamahl]

20 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Well, above I mentioned my friend in MA who bought a house with his earnings from CL and then BP, no other sources.

I know his life wall to wall, inside out. We would live together in his then apartment in South Boston for days and days on end. I know his family, and his best friends. He didn't hide anything from me; that was just not in his nature as a person. We both went way beyond the usual barriers -- and with entirely positive outcomes for both of us. We each gave the other some precious and needed human things that others in our lives weren't offering us at the time.

(If you just can't believe a professional relationship can healthily exist in parallel with a genuine human one, you have my sorrow.)

He would even show me, with deserved pride, his bank accounts and how his escort earnings were growing and accelerating, as he practiced, and refined with experience, his travel routes and schedules.

So I know beyond any doubt that his sex work through CL and then BP ads was his sole source of income.

 

Ok well regarding the professional relationship with genuine, ummmm, condescending much? I don't want your sorrow, that's what Jameson and Belvedere is for. I have had genuine and professional relationships more than I would bargain for. I spent an extra hour chatting with a client today about such matters. He was quite surprised that I actually do enjoy sex with clients, versus someone he described as "punching in a clock". sometimes to where I almost have to pretend I don't like it "too much" because then it'd be like might as well do it for free. 

As far the specific person you are referring to, I wasn't so much as to referring to him but rather some of the other guys you mentioned. Different person in a different market so I can't really say one way or another. But you made it seem like all those guys are getting by soley on backpage. 

If the escort you mentioned is solely using craigslist, I'm very curious to know how because although I use it from time to time in different cities and locally, I tend to get burnt out on it after a few days because of whether being flagged, or having to answer so many emails from people you have to carry on back and forth before,  or people who just don't call or either can't afford the rate or don't pay pay at all. I mean, if I forwarded to you the majority type of email responses from CL, you'd want to cry for me. Also, it's next to never that a CL client books a long session or becomes a long term regular, based on the numerous cities I've used it. I've met lots of clients from it, don't get me wrong...but it's more supplemental than staple. Now, if I'm wrong...then maybe if I charged $50 for my services, I'd get more from it. But I'm not convinced that would make a difference.

The only place I know of to advertise on CL is the casual encounters/m4m, because erotic has been removed.