Disagreement/Argurment With Another Well-know Escort!!

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

Hey Guys,

I feel horrible about a disagreement I had with a fellow escort based out of NYC and don't know how to look at this disturbance as to maybe I over-acted or what I felt about the situation was justified as to why I called him to confront him about what he did was a slap in the face/insult to me personally.

To make a long story short, this is an escort I met back a few months ago in NYC for lunch that I've been wanting to meet for sometime. We finally met and had a wonderful time at lunch together, and would keep in touch from time to time whenever I come back to NYC.

Meanwhile, just recently on the "other site" I saw that this person under the "Annoying" thread (that Mocha created) liked a negative comment that was said about me by an ex-client knowing that this escort has met with me, and thought I was a great guy, but liked a post that this client spoke of me negatively.

It was a major insult/slap in the face because me and this escort haven't had a falling out or argument of any kind until last night when I confronted him about it.

When I confronted the escort about it last night (in a gentle and sincere manner) he had the nerve to be rude and arrogant about the situation and I was being gentle. Due to him insulting me and being arrogant as he was during the phone call,  I lost my temper in the process, and he abruptly hung up the phone in my face. I responded by sending him text messages letting him have it in a abrupt, but arrogant manner in return.

He felt I had no right to question on what he says or does on the forum (which is true I guess), but I do have a right to question of why he would underhandedly attack me being concerned of him agreeing on a negative comment as if he can relate to what this person was hinting to on that thread.

Again, I approached the situation calm, and in a delicate manner. Didn't yell or was upset, and approached the situation with a kind and gentle nature in order to get of some positive results as to why he would agree to such BS.

I just think it was very shitty of why this escort would do such a thing. It's obvious this person thinks of me in a bad light in order to agree to someone's negative comment as I've been nothing but a nice guy to this escort. 

I think the person went off on me in an arrogant tone out of guilt cause I called them out on what they did as he was awfully quick to jump the gun without listening further on what I had to say further. In most cases when someone goes off and flies off the handle like that is usually based on them feeling guilty, and not happy with themselves that they were caught or put on the spot on something they know they did wasn't nice or kind to you.

How would you guys handled this or would have addressed the issue? Was I wrong to express my concern to a point of him attacking me - going off on me in a corrupt manner?

Your thoughts.

JD

[Ojibear]

Losing your temper is never a good thing.  I understand you feel like he is your friend, but money gets in the way of that.  I think he revealed his true thoughts about you. You don't need someone like that in your life. You shouldn't feel guilty.  I recommend that you move on.

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

12 hours ago, Ojibear said:

Losing your temper is never a good thing.  I understand you feel like he is your friend, but money gets in the way of that.  I think he revealed his true thoughts about you. You don't need someone like that in your life. You shouldn't feel guilty.  I recommend that you move on.

I agree. I believe too what happened showed his true colors and him being shitty to me like he was questioning him on it showed of his guilt more. 

JD

[AdamSmith]

When you discover that somebody is a douche, walk away from them and don't look back.

One of the biggest mistakes you can make in life is to think that you can change who somebody else is. It never works.

[Suckrates]

2 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

When you discover that somebody is a douche, walk away from them and don't look back.

One of the biggest mistakes you can make in life is to think that you can change who somebody else is. It never works.

 

So much more Profound in light of whom you are addressing......

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

6 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

When you discover that somebody is a douche, walk away from them and don't look back.

One of the biggest mistakes you can make in life is to think that you can change who somebody else is. It never works.

Hey Adam,

I agree, and maybe that's what I was trying to do was to turn the situation from a negative to a positive even though it wasn't my fault of him being a douchebag to me in the end,  I felt I did the right thing to confront him to see why he felt the way he did.

Like you said, you can't change someone who's a jerk probably to begin with as it never works. That person needs to be on the same level and wanna make peace if they realize they may have offended you - not attack and be arrogant by stating "you have no right questioning me or what I say on the forum". For someone to say such a deranged and unkind statement obviously shows what little respect or kindness they have towards you being you've done NOTHING but be kind to them.

I even took this person out to lunch when I met them in NYC, and thought we had a wonderful time. Still it amazes me as I don't get it, but some matters are not meant to be figured out or even worth worrying about.

Like you said - it's best to take the "high road" and walk away. Had enough with paying back those who've wronged me already this past year, and just time for me to just realize as I'm getting older is that people are jerks sometimes no matter how nice and loyal you are. Those who wrong others get what comes to them in the end. KARMA BABY!!

Just best to take the "high road".

Thanks Adam.

 

[AdamSmith]

27 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

Like you said - it's best to take the "high road" and walk away.

Happy to share hard-earned wisdom.

I learned it by staying with my bf/husband for seven years too long.

[Suckrates]

23 minutes ago, AdamSmith said:

Happy to share hard-earned wisdom.

I learned it by staying with my bf/husband for seven years too long.

 

Seven years ?   Is that when you got the "itch" ???

[AdamSmith]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Seven years ?   Is that when you got the "itch" ???

Just about. Actually together 8 years when I started hiring behind his back.

Then together another 7 years that ought not to have been.

[EscortJamahl]

On October 21, 2016 at 8:46 AM, AdamSmith said:

When you discover that somebody is a douche, walk away from them and don't look back.

One of the biggest mistakes you can make in life is to think that you can change who somebody else is. It never works.

That's really sweet of you to advise.

However, I feel that contradicts a statement you made earlier in the week. You mentioned that if someone isn't a good enough entrepreneur in escorting, that they should "get a job" and have a boss tell them what to do. Is that not trying to change someone? 

There just isn't a job out there that wholly prepares someone to do the type of thing we do and the type of clients we come across. In addition, transitioning from a business like we do to the corporate world is not as easy a proposition as implied. Especially if one has been doing it for awhile. 

I also know more than enough friends who are struggling and doing awful even working normal jobs. They aren't getting enough hours, or they're underpaid, or going thru tumultuous relationships with their bosses and co-workers. I've met medication addicts or alcoholics because their jobs take so much out of them. Working Normal JOBS. So that piece of advise wasn't a grass is greener picture. It was more of you stepping out of your bounds to give unwarranted advise that was misguided and wasn't called for. Don't worry about that person. They were fine with or without your intervention. Maybe they are doing better off than they allude to, and take it more seriously than the the ones who contact do.

Somewhere along the lines though, you allowed the putties from (the site that rhymes with putties) to warp your impression of someone who you know is a great guy with a solid work ethic and cares about only giving their best to their clients. 

 

 

[EscortJamahl]

On October 21, 2016 at 8:41 AM, JDDanielsxxx said:

I agree. I believe too what happened showed his true colors and him being shitty to me like he was questioning him on it showed of his guilt more. 

JD

I agree. And it was unfortunate that such a thread seemed to have caused such a disagreement to transpire. I'm sure that was not the intention. I realize some people think they're reaping benefits off cutting someone down on the Internet. If it didn't cost so much, I'd have to break the screen of my 12.9 inch iPad Air pro with Retina display and 256 GB of data, and my foot would be across somebodies face sooner than later, and they'd be paying for me a new iPad. 

However, it seemed as though you were more invested than he was. We can't make people respect or feel the same about us by purchasing lunches and being their friend. 

My lessons from attending escort events in the past, and just in general in life...is people can put on a smile in your face, and curse you the very next day. Sometimes right in front of other people (won't name any names, but it's happened by you know who) I've learned that too many times, from enough escorts. That's why I have lost interest in attending any more luncheons or Palm Springs get togethers. If I do, it would be very reserved with no deep conversations or asking for advice or answering advice. Especially with other escorts...the bottom line is we are all competitors. It's that way by default. Ruth Chris and J Alexander can sit down and have dinner together, but they are still competitors. They may exchange information just to get ideas and clues from each other, but it's not likely they'll operate out of the same building. 

[AdamSmith]

7 hours ago, EscortJamahl said:

That's really sweet of you to advise.

However, I feel that contradicts a statement you made earlier in the week. You mentioned that if someone isn't a good enough entrepreneur in escorting, that they should "get a job" and have a boss tell them what to do. Is that not trying to change someone? 

There just isn't a job out there that wholly prepares someone to do the type of thing we do and the type of clients we come across. In addition, transitioning from a business like we do to the corporate world is not as easy a proposition as implied. Especially if one has been doing it for awhile. 

I also know more than enough friends who are struggling and doing awful even working normal jobs. They aren't getting enough hours, or they're underpaid, or going thru tumultuous relationships with their bosses and co-workers. I've met medication addicts or alcoholics because their jobs take so much out of them. Working Normal JOBS. So that piece of advise wasn't a grass is greener picture. It was more of you stepping out of your bounds to give unwarranted advise that was misguided and wasn't called for. Don't worry about that person. They were fine with or without your intervention. Maybe they are doing better off than they allude to, and take it more seriously than the the ones who contact do.

Somewhere along the lines though, you allowed the putties from (the site that rhymes with putties) to warp your impression of someone who you know is a great guy with a solid work ethic and cares about only giving their best to their clients.

Everything you said here is well considered and well thought out, and true, and I do genuinely agree with you here.

And I apologize that the tone I used in responding to you Over There was condescending, antagonistic, and not helpful.

The reason I responded at all was I thought that, by posting, you really meant to ask for advice. I accept and understand very well what you said here just above about the daily challenges of trying to survive and remain human, while doing the work that you do now.

The one thing I might be able to constructively offer is that you go back to my last post to you Over There, and look at it to see if it has any ideas you can use. I mean the idea that it really is possible to change how you manage and run your business, so as to minimize and even eliminate these sources of friction and irritation that come with really any job. I've done it, and I've seen escort friends do it, as they figured out ways to eliminate those client/prospect-caused sources of irritation from their lives.

[EscortJamahl]

21 hours ago, AdamSmith said:

Everything you said here is well considered and well thought out, and true, and I do genuinely agree with you here.

And I apologize that the tone I used in responding to you Over There was condescending, antagonistic, and not helpful.

The reason I responded at all was I thought that, by posting, you really meant to ask for advice. I accept and understand very well what you said here just above about the daily challenges of trying to survive and remain human, while doing the work that you do now.

The one thing I might be able to constructively offer is that you go back to my last post to you Over There, and look at it to see if it has any ideas you can use. I mean the idea that it really is possible to change how you manage and run your business, so as to minimize and even eliminate these sources of friction and irritation that come with really any job. I've done it, and I've seen escort friends do it, as they figured out ways to eliminate those client/prospect-caused sources of irritation from their lives.

Fair enough.

Unfortunently I didn't read your last post on puddies reviews as I wasn't able to give a final word. At this point, I'm just over it. But trust me, I've considered that. I've been doing that. However, I'll take your consideration of it and do it more on top of what I'm already doing. 

One of the things I'm realizing now, everyone in a service based business right now seems to be getting backlash for dealing directly with customers. People; mainly men, in America are just mad and overly entitled. Election Day/year should be banned because it's probably cost businesses billions in losses/productivity. I have witnessed too many times myself in resturaunts and stores, how men will use employees time to vent about politics, donald trump, or how and why it's bad customer service to run out of crispy chicken. I think about those same people going home and doing the same to us. 

Amd because of that, I realized I have to urgently make changes. They been made. For the first time ever, I'm enforcing and making it clear I'm charging hourly for texts, cancelling the same day or day of, and reviewing/blacklisting intentional flakes. No more free texts after 30 minutes. And people who bullshit will get fried like bacon, sliced like ham, and eviscerated like chitterlings for Christmas dinner (hyperbole). 0 tolerance for the crap from now on and going into 2017. 

Since then, even the most nervous client made himself show up this week. And all was good, saith the dude...

[AdamSmith]

3 hours ago, EscortJamahl said:

Amd because of that, I realized I have to urgently make changes. They been made. For the first time ever, I'm enforcing and making it clear I'm charging hourly for texts, cancelling the same day or day of, and reviewing/blacklisting intentional flakes. No more free texts after 30 minutes. And people who bullshit will get fried like bacon, sliced like ham, and eviscerated like chitterlings for Christmas dinner (hyperbole). 0 tolerance for the crap from now on and going into 2017. 

Since then, even the most nervous client made himself show up this week. And all was good, saith the dude...

Those sound like very positive and constructive actions.

If each of us doesn't protect ourself and stand up for our own interests, the world is certainly full of enough pointlessly destructive people who want to take down everybody they come in contact with (you and me) while they take themselves down in flames.

Those are the people we have to detect at the earliest possible instant, then cut off contact with. Exactly as you describe here.

None of us has enough time or energy or saintliness to deal with those people, much less try to fix them.

[Suckrates]

 

 

Oh NO, now there's TWO here ?    Well, at least it is the 2 that always give the best "lip service"....   but I'm too OLD to have patience to read and listen to pages of bullshit.....  Less TALK, more ACTION fellas.....

[Guest Larstrup]

8 hours ago, EscortJamahl said:

 

And people who bullshit will get fried like bacon, sliced like ham, and eviscerated like chitterlings for Christmas dinner (hyperbole). 0 tolerance for the crap from now on and going into 2017. 

Since then, even the most nervous client made himself show up this week. And all was good, saith the dude...

This sounds more like a mandatory probation or parolee check-in experience, rather than a pleasurable evening with an escort.

hyperbole rarely camouflages true state of mind.

[Lucky]

Oh please.

[Suckrates]

12 hours ago, EscortJamahl said:

 

Amd because of that, I realized I have to urgently make changes. They been made. For the first time ever, I'm enforcing and making it clear I'm charging hourly for texts, cancelling the same day or day of, and reviewing/blacklisting intentional flakes. No more free texts after 30 minutes. And people who bullshit will get fried like bacon, sliced like ham, and eviscerated like chitterlings for Christmas dinner (hyperbole). 0 tolerance for the crap from now on and going into 2017. 

Since then, even the most nervous client made himself show up this week. And all was good, saith the dude...

 

Sorry mocha, you arent Hot enuf to make those demands or threaten your potential clients.  If it were me, I'd tell you to GO FUCK YOURSELF.    While you may have some Valid points, your execution is childish and unprofessional.

[EscortJamahl]

Instead of roundhouse kicking someone in the face, I'm going to smile and shake it off like Hillary Clinton, and just say: metaphoric hyperbole. 

Those who know and met me, know I have no ill will and look forward to meeting my men, both seen and unforeseen. I'll just go ahead and admit, I can say some off the charts nonsense, but its no different than sideline banter on a Sunday afternoon NFL game. 

I've allowed people to get the best of me on the other site, I'm just looking to share (uplifting) ideas and discuss the drawbacks of the business in a safe and non judgemental environment. 

 

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

On ‎12‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 9:17 PM, EscortJamahl said:

I agree. And it was unfortunate that such a thread seemed to have caused such a disagreement to transpire. I'm sure that was not the intention. I realize some people think they're reaping benefits off cutting someone down on the Internet. If it didn't cost so much, I'd have to break the screen of my 12.9 inch iPad Air pro with Retina display and 256 GB of data, and my foot would be across somebodies face sooner than later, and they'd be paying for me a new iPad. 

However, it seemed as though you were more invested than he was. We can't make people respect or feel the same about us by purchasing lunches and being their friend. 

My lessons from attending escort events in the past, and just in general in life...is people can put on a smile in your face, and curse you the very next day. Sometimes right in front of other people (won't name any names, but it's happened by you know who) I've learned that too many times, from enough escorts. That's why I have lost interest in attending any more luncheons or Palm Springs get togethers. If I do, it would be very reserved with no deep conversations or asking for advice or answering advice. Especially with other escorts...the bottom line is we are all competitors. It's that way by default. Ruth Chris and J Alexander can sit down and have dinner together, but they are still competitors. They may exchange information just to get ideas and clues from each other, but it's not likely they'll operate out of the same building. 

Hey Baby,

Welcome!!

So glad you decided to join BT finally. What took you soooooo long? LOL. .

Darlin - don't let the "meangirls" on either site get you down or discourage you from moving forward in life. Sometimes (in this business with clients or escorts who are negative) you have to put up with(unfortunately) the good and the bad when it comes to handling and dealing with people with difficult personalities. Even when it comes to the owner on the "other" site who Is a douchebag in person along with his other alias, but like others (including you) have told me many times before - be the bigger person, and that's what I'm going to advice you to follow as well.

When the meangirls wanna start pouncing on you just laugh it off, and look the other way. I know that analogy doesn't work all the time, but can some of the time.

Adam gave you some good advice, and advice I'm gonna adhere to as well being I had a very horrible experience as you know of recently regarding the owner on the "other" site. The bad experience I've encountered 2 weeks ago involved me making a special appearance to his residence in Las Vegas to try and reason with him on some serious matters that may involve taking a fellow escort to court for rape being my attorney has been trying to reach him. I would prefer for that not to happen and be at peace with all the horrific negativity and he just treated me like I was garbage and even called the police on me. I flew 2,000 miles to try and make amends and come to some sort of reason of what happened to me in DC, but what does he do - create more drama and negativity by being evil, and that's only gonna come back to haunt him - not me.

I've been encouraged to press charges by the DA, and am considering in doing so, but asked for the attorney who's looking into it to hold off being I wanted to talk to the owner in person to see come to some sort of resolution to sort things out first before going that route, but he got ugly and slammed the door in my face.

"He" (as you are aware of based on past experience) is a bully, and his actions just continues to prove to others he's not a "father figure" AT ALL. I can't NEVER respect someone who is very nasty and vicious like he is. I went to his place(with the guidance and advice from escorts, clients, and the friend of mine who's a DA) to make peace and from further complications happening based on the tragic events as you know of that transpired this past year and the prior year before that.

And no, I didn't go there to hurt him. LOL. I don't advocate towards violence of any kind. I went there very calm, and a man of class. "He" was the one who flew off the handle, and acted uncivilized. It's like the DA told me, he's only acting "ghetto" towards you because for one you got him good for all the horrible things he's done to you in a lot of ways that is affecting his ego, and number 2 he's reacting out of shame and guilt as he knows what he did to you was wrong and unimaginable as you didn't wrong him - he wronged you more ways than one for which you have every right to be upset about.

I see this man doesn't want to make peace, but continue to be at war for which may happen, but not from me as you, clients, and other escorts don't like at all what horrific things this person did to me in the past, and it's no wonder why other escorts do not attend functions he throws, and being his birthday bash last year was one of them.

So many escorts have informed me they love him, but can't stand to be around him and I saw that as living proof when I was there to support him on his 60th Birthday bash weekend. Only 3 escorts(including myself) were at his birthday function last year, and I was the one who went out of my way to make it special for him when no one else gave a flying fuck.

It's sad that people like the "owner" of the other site don't appreciate kind people like me who come along who want to be positive, and cheerful, but not him as he wanna toss and bully good people who comes along away.

You know of the horrible things that happened to me regarding this man, and that's why at this point I'm not going to allow people to pounce on you as ALOT of what you say makes ALOT of sense, and it always have.

Baby you have my support, and always will when it comes to standing up for what's right. I kinda think you may not care for escorting or can get into situations that are a little questionable, but some of what you say about client interactions at times does make sense - especially when it comes to how men of color(like us) are treated terribly at times in the escorting community. Those individuals who are NOT men of color will never understand of the sacrifices we go through to get ahead in this world, and you can tell it shows just how "certain" individuals on this forum and the "other" site behave and say horrible towards us at times.

Don't let these negative "meangirls" get in the way of you speaking your mind. When it comes to them trying to "bully" you - do what I do - tell them to "GET LOST". Sometimes you gotta just as a bulldog as they are in order to get the message across to say " I'm not the one - find somebody else". They'll get the hint eventually as you can't let people push you around, and proud at times when you do stand up for yourself towards people who think they have you by the balls.

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

14 hours ago, Suckrates said:

 

Sorry mocha, you arent Hot enuf to make those demands or threaten your potential clients.  If it were me, I'd tell you to GO FUCK YOURSELF.    While you may have some Valid points, your execution is childish and unprofessional.

You really need to stop bullshitting yourself as your no angel when it comes to bashing others - especially black men.

Yes, you've made some nasty remarks that just make one wanna ----(censored).  

I think you get the idea.

You can't go around making lewd commits towards men of color and not expect a negative outcome in the end. I don't know what planet you're from, but I refuse to allow you to keep bashing black men like you do, and come off as some sort of saint as if you don't offend others which is total bullshit.

Quite frankly I'm sick of these vindictive/arrogant commits, and tolerated it too long as you've done it to me making such awful references of me wearing a "Jeri curl" and some other obscene/off the wall commits that's is geared negetively towards black people and have been for years.

You may say your for men of color, but your offensive/off the wall commits shows different in my opinion as your always negative towards men of color on forums. If you were of such support of men of color, you would be more supportive(positive), and not always on attack as I see you do this more to men of color and nobody else. And don't say it's because of what we've said on the forum as you my dear have NOOOOO room to talk.

What I'm telling you here on the forum is the truth coming from a black man's point of view on these types of conflicts as how you come across is at times one who takes pleasure in attacking men of color, and I think it's about time one indicates this being of what I have observed out of you for over the past year now on how you've attacked me, and now Mocha. Enough is enough, and I think it's about time someone calls you out on your racist behavior at times based on the comments you say.

Maybe Mocha and others won't call you out on it so much, but I will. I called out others(as you've seen) who wronged black men before, and will do it to you too if need be. Anytime you call me or any other black man a "Jeri curl" wearing something (whatever it was you said on a post on the other site) - that's going way too far as that's you being a racist at this point by making such a cruel and insensitive racial reference.

You said such a commit in a past post on the other site to be nasty using something offensive racially to get back at me and get your point across. That to me and others is RACIST and coming off as a coward on your part that you have nothing better else to say to get point across other then offend someone racially.

I find that quite sad how white men tend to have use such racial references to offend a black person. Seen this sort of ignorance happen ALOT happen to me or others within this past year. Seems racism is getting out of control and I think what happened to me from a "certain" porn star/escort, and from the owner from the "other" site proves how men of color are mistreated.

KNOCK OFF THE NEGETIVITY, SUCKRATES(JJ).

Be positive and stop being always so negative towards black men on this site and the "other" site. Seems your always the one to be the first in line in wanting to knock someone(especially a man of color) down.

RELAX dude, and just back off in being nasty all the time. If you can't say anything nice - just don't say anything at all, man, and that's the truth.

JD

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 4:39 AM, AdamSmith said:

Everything you said here is well considered and well thought out, and true, and I do genuinely agree with you here.

And I apologize that the tone I used in responding to you Over There was condescending, antagonistic, and not helpful.

The reason I responded at all was I thought that, by posting, you really meant to ask for advice. I accept and understand very well what you said here just above about the daily challenges of trying to survive and remain human, while doing the work that you do now.

The one thing I might be able to constructively offer is that you go back to my last post to you Over There, and look at it to see if it has any ideas you can use. I mean the idea that it really is possible to change how you manage and run your business, so as to minimize and even eliminate these sources of friction and irritation that come with really any job. I've done it, and I've seen escort friends do it, as they figured out ways to eliminate those client/prospect-caused sources of irritation from their lives.

Thank you, Adam for being one of a few guiding forces who seem to be of positivity when it comes to such an issue for Black men in the escorting community as we do go through ALOT of pain and struggles.

What Jamal is stating is raw, but informative information maybe outsiders are not aware of as I'm glad Jamal at times do get across in a direct, but intelligent manner at times.

[AdamSmith]

1 hour ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

Thank you, Adam for being one of a few guiding forces who seem to be of positivity when it comes to such an issue for Black men in the escorting community as we do go through ALOT of pain and struggles.

What Jamal is stating is raw, but informative information maybe outsiders are not aware of as I'm glad Jamal at times do get across in a direct, but intelligent manner at times.

Every escort of every race I've ever known has had to find some way to deal with those troubles.

Asian guys face their own subtle, unique versions of racism when escorting in America.

What you and Jamahl, as black men in America, have to deal with is just unimaginable to me.

Actually, not entirely unimaginable. More than once, when I was with black and brown friends in Harlem or Inwood or Washington Heights, and we were out on the street making noise late at night, a cop came up to us and told us to take our party inside the house. It was obvious that the presence of my little white ass as participant -- and credible witness in court -- was the thing that stopped the cop and his partner from doing a stop-and-frisk, or more.

[Suckrates]

2 hours ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

You really need to stop bullshitting yourself as your no angel when it comes to bashing others - especially black men.

Yes, you've made some nasty remarks that just make one wanna ----(censored).  

I think you get the idea.

You can't go around making lewd commits towards men of color and not expect a negative outcome in the end. I don't know what planet you're from, but I refuse to allow you to keep bashing black men like you do, and come off as some sort of saint as if you don't offend others which is total bullshit.

Quite frankly I'm sick of these vindictive/arrogant commits, and tolerated it too long as you've done it to me making such awful references of me wearing a "Jeri curl" and some other obscene/off the wall commits that's is geared negetively towards black people and have been for years.

You may say your for men of color, but your offensive/off the wall commits shows different in my opinion as your always negative towards men of color on forums. If you were of such support of men of color, you would be more supportive(positive), and not always on attack as I see you do this more to men of color and nobody else. And don't say it's because of what we've said on the forum as you my dear have NOOOOO room to talk.

What I'm telling you here on the forum is the truth coming from a black man's point of view on these types of conflicts as how you come across is at times one who takes pleasure in attacking men of color, and I think it's about time one indicates this being of what I have observed out of you for over the past year now on how you've attacked me, and now Mocha. Enough is enough, and I think it's about time someone calls you out on your racist behavior at times based on the comments you say.

Maybe Mocha and others won't call you out on it so much, but I will. I called out others(as you've seen) who wronged black men before, and will do it to you too if need be. Anytime you call me or any other black man a "Jeri curl" wearing something (whatever it was you said on a post on the other site) - that's going way too far as that's you being a racist at this point by making such a cruel and insensitive racial reference.

You said such a commit in a past post on the other site to be nasty using something offensive racially to get back at me and get your point across. That to me and others is RACIST and coming off as a coward on your part that you have nothing better else to say to get point across other then offend someone racially.

I find that quite sad how white men tend to have use such racial references to offend a black person. Seen this sort of ignorance happen ALOT happen to me or others within this past year. Seems racism is getting out of control and I think what happened to me from a "certain" porn star/escort, and from the owner from the "other" site proves how men of color are mistreated.

KNOCK OFF THE NEGETIVITY, SUCKRATES(JJ).

Be positive and stop being always so negative towards black men on this site and the "other" site. Seems your always the one to be the first in line in wanting to knock someone(especially a man of color) down.

RELAX dude, and just back off in being nasty all the time. If you can't say anything nice - just don't say anything at all, man, and that's the truth.

JD

JD, lets get one thing PERFECTLY clear here,  I am the furthest thing from a racist you will find, and the ONLY black men I have commented on were You and Mocha, and simply because of your negative attitudes and crazy behavior.  In both cases, any comments I made were Warranted, JUSTIFED and substantiated by your posts.  So stop pulling out your fucking race card to validate your points, which are usually "pointless" BTW.   You and your colleague are the ones always taking attack on and disparaging "the white man",  even in your post here, yet you suck their cocks and take their money, so not only are YOU the racist but also the hypocrite.  Writing your hateful posts 2 pages long with bad grammar and misused words doesnt prove you to be a scholar or a humanitarian.  And making statements that you are "making changes and getting help", when you clearly havent, only makes you a liar.   As for the jerri curl comment,  yes I did say that, and if you look in the mirror dear, YES you wear a jerri curl, so it was simply an identifying observation, not a racist slur as you commonly like to label things.   Ditch the jerri,  its 2017.... 

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4 hours ago, Suckrates said:

JD, lets get one thing PERFECTLY clear here,  I am the furthest thing from a racist you will find, and the ONLY black men I have commented on were You and Mocha, and simply because of your negative attitudes and crazy behavior.  In both cases, any comments I made were Warranted, JUSTIFED and substantiated by your posts.  So stop pulling out your fucking race card to validate your points, which are usually "pointless" BTW.   You and your colleague are the ones always taking attack on and disparaging "the white man",  even in your post here, yet you suck their cocks and take their money, so not only are YOU the racist but also the hypocrite.  Writing your hateful posts 2 pages long with bad grammar and misused words doesnt prove you to be a scholar or a humanitarian.  And making statements that you are "making changes and getting help", when you clearly havent, only makes you a liar.   As for the jerri curl comment,  yes I did say that, and if you look in the mirror dear, YES you wear a jerri curl, so it was simply an identifying observation, not a racist slur as you commonly like to label things.   Ditch the jerri,  its 2017.... 

Whatever!!!

Once again and I'm sure Mocha will agree - all mouth, but no action with you. 

Definitely one who's a bonafide racist who make off the wall fucked up commits that offends men of color.

You're stating and trying to convince me your not racist based on the commits you've made towards me and Mocha is total bullshit. 

Sorry, but don't buy your defense being you have no room to talk about someone who conducts "crazy behavior" being this is coming from a member of the "other site who's been banned multiple times cause he can't keep his big trap shut causing trouble offending others.