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[Guest M2Sexy]

Back to Rio for a week. 

Dollar is $1: 3.3Reals.  Best exchange place is Universal Exchange near Ardeal Cordeval metro in Copa.  Yahoo quotes $1 to 3.35 Reals and they gave me the same rate. 
Was at Pointe 202 on Wednesday.  There was a good mixture of boys, both muscular and slim built.  Being a bottom, I was in paradise.  Most of them were happy to fuck and get paid Very happy and satisfied.  Going rate is 100Reals. I usually tip extra 20Reals, because they were nice.

Back to Club 117 on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.  So many hot guys! Beautiful boys.  I love pretty boys to muscular built guys so I was in paradise.  They all fucked so good; they love to fucked pussyboys LOL   And I was so happy to be one.  Yeah! So happy again. 

117 charges 57 Reals for entry and 40 Reals for 35mins of room.  Boys charge 100 reals and up.  I usually tip 20R extra for the nice ones.  Some hot hot guys who comes in once in awhile ask for $150.  I would try once just to get a taste, but usually won't repeat at that rate unless he is super hot and super good.

All in all, I love being in Rio and Sao Paolo.  Thanks to the boys willing to fuck as such good rates, we bottoms can be satisfied of our needs. 

[Guest bobbalino]

Nice summary.

I would be interested in knowing if anyone has comments/insights on the love/sex hotel at #112 across the street, with respect to taking for a few hours a sauna garoto one has vetted and trusts, though it may be more frequented by trans escorts and their admirers. It is called the Alameda, charging 150 reais for 4 hours.

 

[Tomcal]

It has been there for the 16 years that i have been going there!  I have never used it but am told by friends who can't take guys back to their hotel it is a good, close, convienent alternative!

[Guest KevinC]

On 9/19/2016 at 4:54 AM, bobbalino said:

Nice summary.

I would be interested in knowing if anyone has comments/insights on the love/sex hotel at #112 across the street, with respect to taking for a few hours a sauna garoto one has vetted and trusts, though it may be more frequented by trans escorts and their admirers. It is called the Alameda, charging 150 reais for 4 hours.

 

unless you want to fuck with one guy for 4 hours, I dont see the need to go to Alemeda.  The suite at 117 is only R40 per 35 minutes.  

[axiom2001]

1 hour ago, KevinC said:

unless you want to fuck with one guy for 4 hours, I dont see the need to go to Alemeda.  The suite at 117 is only R40 per 35 minutes.  

Although the fee for a cabine/suite at Club 117 is only R$40 for thirty minutes-- I would NOT want to spend a short time with a guy whom I found to be "over-the-top" hot!  Outside of the saunas, do you hire for such a short amount of time?  Guys, R$150 is cheap; it's NOT one hundred fifty dollars! 

 

Check out my thread of a few weeks back in which I cited the value of the real vs the dollar during that particular time!  I always flinch when I read a post about the money situation.  We "rich" Americans can afford most experiences in Rio de janeiro, my favorite city in this world of ours!

[Lucky]

Ah, but those suites leave a bit to be desired. A real bed, for one. A good shower, for another. A good toilet. More privacy too. Without your buddies all waiting because they want the room too!

And, if you have time left on your 4 hours, go get someone else! He's right next door! Who says you can only have one guest in 4 hours???

[Guest bobbalino]

I meant the question to address appropriateness for my needs, and entered the accommodation fee and duration reference only because I had hoped to ascertain unambiguously what tomcal eventually confirmed, it can serve as an alt or backup venue, before hours, after hours, Mondays, bargain-basement stampede Tuesdays, or whenever one's adult personally autonomous whims dictate. We all have the prerogative of self-determination in terms of how penny-wise versus spendthrift we need or choose to be.

I am a little reluctant to fuel the money conflict and currency discussion even more, and cash resources are not a major concern, but outside of what I pay the garoto and for refreshments during my sauna club visit, I typically pay the house $R57 entry, 80 cabin for my annoyingly latent 36-minute orgasm (to get there that is!), and 20 for towel guy and room cleaner tips. And I am delighted to part with it. 

But as what is 2001axiomatic rings true, the exchange and prosperity differences do give us home advantage, and at this point my curiosity about Alameda's ambience, fridge bar, personalized sauna, quality of erotic channel, and "erotic armchair", etc etc, supercecedes price-shopping considerations.

 

 

[likeohmygod]

Are there some huge cocks in Club 117? Is it easy to find hung fit guys in there?

[Lucky]

3 hours ago, likeohmygod said:

Are there some huge cocks in Club 117? Is it easy to find hung fit guys in there?

Like, oh my god! Hung in Brazil? I think so! I am reminded of my very first visit to a sauna in Rio, Roger's. I stuck with this guy who spoke English because I don't speak Portuguese. I learned quickly that I didn't need to, because a guy came out of the shower, just my type, with a huge smile at me and an even huger dick. But my manners got the best of me and I stuck with the guy I was talking with. Nowadays I would have bolted so quickly that my "thanks for the chat" might not have been heard!

[likeohmygod]

Well "language barrier" was one of my major concerns.

Looks like i need to book a ticket to Rio

[Tomcal]

If you have a iphone get the app ISpeak Portuguese easy to use and you can have a conversation with the guy you want in a noisy sauna!  Top or Bttm? Do you kiss Do you suck?How much to have you go to a room?

TIP #1 - never accept the first offer they throw at you! They can pick out the newbies and the price will go up to double or triple what they normally charge!  

As far as finding big dicks... this is Brazil!! 

[Tomcal]

One person's huge is another person's average!  But if you are talking 8" to 9" I am sure you will find it at the saunas!  This is no way a scientific study but it seems that the "leaner" or twinks will often have the bigger dicks!  here are 2 from Meo Mundo

[likeohmygod]

Thank you for the advice :). I will probably go there for my 29th birthday :D...hahaha

And...HOLY MOTHER OF GOD....that's huge. Is that horse still in Meo Mundo? I can't believe the going rate is like...40 USD...heaven looks like garbage in comparison.

I love twinks with a defined body and a huge cock.

Yeah 9" is the size i'd like to find

[Lucky]

Not sure why you would want a discount. These guys are working. They need the money as Brazil is a poor country. Why not have the guy be satisfied that you paid his rate. If you shortchange him, he will likely shortchange the sex.

Sex in Brazil is no expensive. You don' go to the saunas to save money!

 

Finally, most of these guys are straight Your good looks will be lost on them.

[likeohmygod]

Hold on hold on...that's a joke based on a saying we have in the place where i live regarding birthdays. It's probably a bad translation.

I'm gonna delete that since i wanna avoid misunderstandings.

By the way...i strongly believe that pronstitution is a service sold on a legal market, and therefore susceptible to market laws and negotiation. I won't be looking for discounts, but surely as i've been suggested, i won't accept any first offer if i know that for the same expense i can get the same level of satisfaction.

[Tomcal]

I will talk about paying the guys one last time! It seems this topic comes up every year.  I do not pay rates higher then the norm!  Anymore then i would pay L.A. Housing rates in say... Des Moines Iowa  because i feel guilty that housing is so much cheaper there!  One of the reasons i pay the going rate and not the "i feel guilty rate is 1) i had been told this in every sauna i have been in, in Brazil by the locals "Do Not overpay! It will wreck it for us!" Remember the locals are the majority of the business! If they stop going there,  there will not be any saunas left for us to visit!  

I pay $100.R a session in a sauna. i know a couple guys very well who i have been seeing down there for a number of years who are true professionals! They work 5 sometimes 6 days a week at the saunas usually for more then the mandatory 3 hours!(all the saunas have work rules that if the guy wants to work there he has to stay a minimum of 3 hours from the time he arrives!) both these guys drive newer cars and live in nice condos, and make  a better living then their peers! And they unlike their non sauna friends,  are not working 8 hours a day but working in a air conditioned place in a towel for Two to  3 Hours at a time!

The majority of the guys do it for a short period of time before the move on to "regular" employment!  There are at least 10 of those guys i have known, who i see there on a social basis, and go to dinner with their wives who are now over 30!  Having worked in the sauna is no big secret they are not embarassed or ashamed and usually their GFs or wives know about their employment there!  Sex and sex workers do not have the social stigma in Brazil that it does in Western Civilization!

 I really don't care if foreigners want to pay more to make themselves feel better,. If they are happy giving away their money great! Just dont tell me what i should be paying and i won't tell you!  :-)

[Lucky]

Did someone infer from my post that I recommend overpaying? I certainly did not. But if the going rate is 100, then give him 100. Don't try to get him down to 90 or even 80. The quality of your session may suffer, and it is unfair to ask the guy to work for less than the going rate for whatever reason.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

At todays exchange, that 100 Reias is only $31USD

[likeohmygod]

56 minutes ago, Lucky said:

-CUT- it is unfair to ask the guy to work for less than the going rate for whatever reason.

This is just my opinion:

I don't think it's unfair. I believe It's perfectly legit as long as there's a deal. You're kindly asking to pay less for the same performance. If the guy accepts he will have to offer you the same service, otherwise he just has to reject the offer and bring you back to the going rate.

The quality of a session may suffer with 80 dollars, as much with 140 dollars if you pick the bad guy, or you pick or the one with the wrong mood. You're buying sex, not a car, there's no warranty. The only thing you can do is write reviews and tell people to avoid guy "x" because it wasted 120 of your dollars. It really depends on the guy and on his mood and how professional he is. If i can get a 20% price cut from guys in Berlin, i can try to get the same cut from guys in Rio. The reference cost of their services is more than adequate and proportional to the cost of life in Brazil, since these places exist thanks to local customers and their incomes.

The fact that i'm coming from a richer country doesn't imply that i must abstain from negotiating going rates in a country where this market is legal and competitive and where there are no official fixed prices. I earn my money with hard work...i expect every escort or guy to do the same.

[axiom2001]

On 9/21/2016 at 11:58 AM, likeohmygod said:

Are there some huge cocks in Club 117? Is it easy to find hung fit guys in there?

...very definitely so!  A few "of these" even roam around completely nude to show off their "blessings" to all!        

[Tomcal]

Just to be clear i wasn't referring to anyone's particular post when i wrote the above! I was replying to MY thoughts on the subject! I have come to realize that what if someone else ovetpays it doesnt effect me.  For a number of years a older friend used to always pay 50%+ more then me and bring Nike shoes back for the guys. One night several of them were sitting at my table and were laughing about him and they said to me me "why is he so crazy that he overpays and brings presents back?" I was surprised by their reaction but they thought he was being crazy for doing it! They sure were not going to say no to him but they had a lower opinion of him as opposed to a higher opinion since he paid them more!  And paying more does Not get you better sex with them!  That is much more contingent on how you talk/treat them and being respectful! Just my 2 cents!

[Guest bobbalino]

One $R100 session per day 5 days per week earns ave Brazilian income equivalency. Two per day puts a guy into the top 5-10 percent, eg airline pilot, so climbing into the nose-bleed level at three or more per day. 

Approximately three-fifths of a $300 session at same frequency (5 per week) earns a North American garoto ave income, appearing at first glance a little comparatively advantageous, but without the legality, easy-peasy infrastructure, and negligible ad and overhead costs conferred by BRZ saunas.

Locals grasp that a Brazilian patron @ $R100 is paying 5 times more proportionally compared to a North American (above Rio Grande). I agree it is benificent and non-maleficent to support a lower rate for locals and to be the big spenders, but small not capital B.

Paying $450 or $600 to a N.Am on request would likely draw similar levels of the awe/gratitude/derision mix. And we do not feel that $300 is shortchanging at all in our home territory.

It seems prudent to get our magnaminity out of our systems by treating the Carioca guy to a beverage or more of choice ... and a fistful of large-size magnum condoms, flattering (hopefully also to local customs officials) and hard to come by and afford there.

Mea maxima culpa if I am duplicating previous thematic threads.

 

[Guest bobbalino]

Spelling correction: magnanimity

[likeohmygod]

You've brought a question to my mind.

What about condoms? I've read everywhere that a sauna ticket usually include one condom. Is that true? I mean, only 1 condom? What do you suggest to do? Should i bring XXL sized condoms on my bag?

[Tomcal]

You can get as many condoms as you need at the desk or send the guy you are with down for more durng your session!