Setting The Record Straight.....

[stevenkesslar]

7 hours ago, Scorpio said:

Steven, while I agree with what you have written, you're very unlikely to get what you desire in this instance.  If it was up to me, everything that JD has written would have been deleted the moment that he wrote it and his posting privileges would be revoked. It  is readily apparent what he is trying to do. But then again if it was up to me, he would have been gone from the other site almost immediately as well. Call it intuition if you want but I saw through the act from day one, even when you were championing him.  However, none of the members here have that power, because no one was willing to accept it:

And OZ simply does not ban or delete threads, as he has stated in other threads.

 

Thanks for the heads up, Scorpio.  I think I am getting the message.  More precisely, I think the silence is deafening. In my 15 years  as an escort there have been only a few times that individuals tried to extort or blackmail me.  Neither Hooboy nor Daddy stood for it, and once I made an appeal with logic and proof, in private, they stood by me, and it all happened in a matter of hours - privately.  This has gone on for days, and for whatever reason it has been allowed to escalate, and the one person who can stop the extortion and blackmail simply hasn't.  In lieu of that, there are ridiculous assertions that the victims of harassment and abuse are somehow supposed to "fix" the situation or "heal" the psychopath extorting them.  I appreciate these suggestions.  They are good comic relief.  I don't need a lawyer.  I need a margarita, and my friends and clients and I will be laughing about this one for years to come.  Meanwhile, you can keep your psychopath and his rages.  Please enjoy.

Speaking of getting the message, I've now been advised by several people I trust that I am feeding the trolls.  I know the way this works.  If you defend yourself, which is fair, you are feeding the trolls.  If you are silent, which is fair, you feel abused, and people speculate that it must mean you are guilty.  Right now you are all witnesses to both.   It is a lose-lose, which is exactly why responsible adults, including responsible people who want successful websites, shouldn't tolerate it.  Apparently, you do.  

Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, except when it isn't.  As it happens, TIME ran a great cover story just this month on how the Internet is being taken over by hate and by trolls.  Who'd a thunk, reading a thread like this?  TIME compared Facebook, where people can't hide behind anonymity and there is an intentional focus on safety, to sites like 4chan, which are "so popular with trolls that few normal people are actually on it to be trolled."  As Rock Hard argued, you guys are smart, and can reach your own conclusions.  So  I'll leave you to decide for yourselves where you fit in the food chain.  Have fun, cheers, and bon appetit!

 

 

[Guest RfromKC]

Just a thought from the man Steven Kesslar and others have called JD's biggest enabler "over there:"

I am left to wonder, why is everyone who is so adamant about censoring Mr. Daniels and hell bent on having him banned from this site as he was from the other site so happy to keep this thread active by posting their complaints and recriminations. That holds especially true for JJ, Larstrup, Scorpio and Steven Kesslar.

JD has a major beef about wrongs that have been piled upon him, personally and professionally. While I, myself, personally know him as a person who has been hounded off the other site because of his reaction to these wrongs by both the owner of the other site AND by a certain well-reviewed escort who has taken it on himself to attempt to "gaslight" Mr. Daniels by hounding him, (by phone and threats day and night) logic would dictate that if Boytoy's members do not want JD's defensive posts here, they should simply ignore any posts about these topics, thus letting the threads die a natural death.

I am still proud to call JD Daniels my friend and happy to hire him whenever he visits my area. Oh, and in regard to JJ's accusation that I am getting sessions, etc. free from JD for continuing my support, that is simply not true in any way. If you anti-JD posters insist on reporting his posts and trying to get his opinions banned, you will simply keep these threads going and, in the words of one of our Presidential candidates, "Make Boytoy Great Again!"

TruHart 1
(Rfrom KC)

 

[Suckrates]

2 hours ago, RfromKC said:

Just a thought from the man Steven Kesslar and others have called JD's biggest enabler "over there:"

I am left to wonder, why is everyone who is so adamant about censoring Mr. Daniels and hell bent on having him banned from this site as he was from the other site so happy to keep this thread active by posting their complaints and recriminations. That holds especially true for JJ, Larstrup, Scorpio and Steven Kesslar.

JD has a major beef about wrongs that have been piled upon him, personally and professionally. While I, myself, personally know him as a person who has been hounded off the other site because of his reaction to these wrongs by both the owner of the other site AND by a certain well-reviewed escort who has taken it on himself to attempt to "gaslight" Mr. Daniels by hounding him, (by phone and threats day and night) logic would dictate that if Boytoy's members do not want JD's defensive posts here, they should simply ignore any posts about these topics, thus letting the threads die a natural death.

I am still proud to call JD Daniels my friend and happy to hire him whenever he visits my area. Oh, and in regard to JJ's accusation that I am getting sessions, etc. free from JD for continuing my support, that is simply not true in any way. If you anti-JD posters insist on reporting his posts and trying to get his opinions banned, you will simply keep these threads going and, in the words of one of our Presidential candidates, "Make Boytoy Great Again!"

TruHart 1
(Rfrom KC)

 

 

Truhart, Shame on YOU.   Stop supporting that loser.  Surely you cant be that desperate for a free meal at Red Lobster ?   And if you arent getting anything for FREE, then, you are just STUPID !  

Your unwavering ongoing support of JD is only making you look The FOOL !   After reading only 5 words of ANY post he writes, its clear the guy is disturbed and pathological.  Talking to him is like talking to the wall, and HE sure likes talking.  In fact, that's all he ever does, and we have all heard ENOUGH.    Truhart, step away from the black cock and smell the coffee.  Even Huma Abedin finally realized the truth and decided " NOT to stand by her man  "....  I am not attacking you sir, just trying to wake you up because in the end, you will end up that piece of toilet paper , stuck to the turd thats sucked down into the cesspool....

[Suckrates]

 

And, BTW, JD also contacted me privately and asked for my personal email, so that he can send me some proof and evidence that whats he saying about Kessie and KJ is true.  Now, I may be loud, and abrasive, but I sho aint STUPID and I would NEVER give this guy any way to contact me off the site that would enable him to  start harrassing me too...   Old habits die hard. 

[Suckrates]

8 hours ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

Oh is that right? Ok - why don't you convey your thoughts on this to Daddy and Steven as well or just don't have the balls to do so? Oh, I'm sorry you can't do that because your banned on tne other site - that's right.

Too bad it would have been nice for you to say Daddy is full of shit also for not taking the proper action, and see what happens.

After all, he came out with a thread stating he needed a referral which caused me to take action in making the situation public as well. He only made that post of needing a refferal because of the rage I had towards everyone involved with Dane's scam when he e-mailed the "Cease and Disist" notice to me shortly after I got Steven good and caught up in his contributions. Now who looks guilty as how are you gonna a send such a notice after someone's been generous helping someone financially? Remember it was Dane who reached out to me about Steven being in trouble - I didn't reach out to him.

This BS will make them ALL look bad in court because the judge will see its odd that a Cease and Disist letter was issued out a few days after I made of Steven's July's promise which was the last payment in getting him caught up. 

Dane openly suggested this idea to help get my EOY and reviews reinstated along with turning all this negetive energy between all parties involved into a positive outcome again. 

Doesnt make any sense as Daddy too is guilty as sin in regards to being shitty as well. You would think Daddy would be positive(like Dane said he was in this so called Cabana section of the forum) about my generous donations, but instead sends a Cease and Disist notice.

I wouldn't have been in contact or made an attempt to be in contact with Daddy only if Dane didn't say both men were speaking so highly of me because of me helping Steven like I was.  

 

 

More TALK,,,,,,, blah, blah, blah.   JD, you are trying wayyyyy too hard,  the sign of a guilty man.  From where I sit, you are nothing more  "than a Talking head".....

 

 

 

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

1 minute ago, Suckrates said:

the sign of a guilty man

Oh sure - Yeah, you're absolutely right, baby, I am guilty - Guilty of telling the truth and not lying through my teeth of my misfortunes like some people on the forum I know.

 

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

47 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

 I am not attacking you sir, just trying to wake you up because in the end, you will end up that piece of toilet paper , stuck to the turd thats sucked down into the cesspool....

Yeah, and unfortunately you and Kesslar are those turds from the hole that seems to never flush into the cesspool.... the shit that comes out of your mouth down into the toilet just keeps turning and turning and turning without end.

Maybe you can use some gentle relief of being a turd, and finally be of some sunshine for once....

[Suckrates]

12 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

Oh sure - Yeah, you're absolutely right, baby, I am guilty - Guilty of telling the truth and not lying through my teeth of my misfortunes like some people on the forum I know.

 

 

Lies are a funny thing.  If you commit to them and keep telling them consistently, you start to Believe they are TRUE...  Just because the stuff you keep spitting at us is true to YOU, doesnt mean that  "It's the Truth"..  There's a BIG difference.

BTW, I am up early because I am on my way to WORK.  WHY the fuck are you up so early. Let me guess, More talking to do ?

[Suckrates]

4 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

Yeah, and unfortunately you and Kesslar are those turds from the hole that seems to never flush into the cesspool.... the shit that comes out of your mouth down into the toilet just keeps turning and turning and turning without end.

Maybe you can use some gentle relief of being a turd, and finally be of some sunshine for once....

 

Being the big Queeny bottom that you are,  I am SURE you know everything about Douche ?   Setting the record straight ? 

All your posts are doing is cementing the fact that you are CRAZY , and distancing yourself from a public that could have proven to be your future income..  You should apply for welfare now.  You cant live on just the few pennies you make off Truhart.   

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

15 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

Being the big Queeny bottom that you are,  I am SURE you know everything about Douche ?   Setting the record straight ? 

All your posts are doing is cementing the fact that you are CRAZY , and distancing yourself from a public that could have proven to be your future income..  You should apply for welfare now.  You cant live on just the few pennies you make off Truhart.   

Actually believe it or not I have bottomed before a few times in my life before becoming a total top, but unlike you at least I know how to douche and douche well without leaving shit stains on my man's dick and on the sheets.

What more shit you got for me cause I'm on a roll today, baby and got more shit for ya and anybody that comes in my way.

Bring it!!!

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

7 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said:

All your posts are doing is cementing the fact that you are CRAZY , and distancing yourself from a public that could have proven to be your future income..  You should apply for welfare now.  

That means a lot coming from the QUEEN OF DRAMA who I'm sure sits luxuriously at her desk working at the welfare office. Now I see what you meant by "on your way to work".

Hey, who knows - maybe I'll run into you there. Will you be in your CRAZY ass drag today by any chance?

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

39 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

WHY the fuck are you up so early. Let me guess, More talking to do ?

Such a fucking smart ass - No, I'm up early because I'm hosting a client for an overnight, and had an early morning call from Rentmen.com in Europe to discuss some interesting possibilities that'll be coming up.

Oh, and just to "set the record straight "AGAIN" on something else that was of importance that Steven said in a previous thread about me so-called being in trouble with Rentmen.com for manipulating they're email system - not true.

I had a discussion over the phone with Robin of Rentmen.com this morning, and he has indicated whatever lie Steven told them was resolved as they found of me doing no such thing, and put Dane on notice/warning. They closed the case being what Steven has said to them was false and they realize he reported something out of malice as revenge to get back at me as they too are aware what's going on, and that I was scammed. They read Dane's emails that were sent to me on the phone just so you know, Steven. Wink.

Nice try in getting me in trouble with rentmen or attempted to as they however CLOSED the case you reported being of false inaccurate information. Whatever warning flag they had on me was removed seeing I was completely innocent in the matter after-all, and found no such thing being done on they're serves or from my IP address.

I sure hope one day, Steven you'll learn it doesn't pay to fuck with me as I'm just as sharp as you if not more. I guess like others who've crossed me in my life will find out the hard way.

If you don't believe what I'm telling you - ask Robin for yourself. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to inform you himself if need be.

[Guest JDDanielsxxx]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

And, BTW, JD also contacted me privately and asked for my personal email, so that he can send me some proof and evidence that whats he saying about Kessie and KJ is true.  Now, I may be loud, and abrasive, but I sho aint STUPID and I would NEVER give this guy any way to contact me off the site that would enable him to  start harrassing me too...   Old habits die hard. 

No need to - you demonstrate stupidity online as it is anyway being banned from more websites then Steven Draker ever was.  I don't need to prove to you ANYTHING at this point by emailing.

If members want to see proof I'm telling the truth - they can meet me in person which will be the best route so people who saying I'm lying can shut the fuck up for once.

Your loud mouth and abrasive behavior is what continuously get you banned on the other site in the first place. You're damn right being "old habits die hard" and your a perfect example of that being banned (like what) for the 18th time already.

When will you EVER learn?

[RockHardNYC]

Dinner is over and I've had a few drinks. A perfect mood to deal with Housewives of a Dead Rentboy Era. It isn't until you're slightly intoxicated that you realize how hard you have to scroll to get down to the Sandbox. I scrolled so hard, my scroll finger ended up in my ass.

Drama queens will be drama queens. There is a certain segment of the gay community that just loves an emotional train wreck. I suppose that's why Daddy and others like watching RuPaul's Drag Race.

It's funny to read all the folks calling for BANNING, DELETE, and SILENCE, yet they can't resist to read and comment. Since escorting is very competitive, one can only imagine how many escorts are following this incoherent mess.

From day 1, I can't figure out the pronouns. If an escort can't write, he should invest in a writing course at a local college. Don't waste your money on any Rentboy Fund. The moral of this story: If you ever find you need to defend yourself with words, you better know how to write.

The only thing I take away from this mess is that escorts are not perfect, and some of them make big mistakes. And we all know, much like an actor (hello Winona), a BIG mistake can affect an escort's career.

There is hope. People tend to enjoy forgiving, especially when remorse is evident. The more handsome and popular escorts will receive forgiveness sooner, unless your name in Benjamin Nicholas (I have forgiven him).

There is a percentage of cock-loving customers who love to take sides, and they'll remain loyal fucks no matter who fucks with them or how the dice fall.

It's evident to me that something happened to cause this to escalate. My gut is telling me that everyone, meaning Daddy, JD, Steven Kesslar, Dane Scott, and Killian James are all involved and responsible in some way. There isn't only one guilty party here.

Truth? Who knows what the truth is. At this point it doesn't really matter. The damage is done. And all of the people I named are responsible. A pox on all your houses.

I'm quite confident that Daddy and Oz enjoy their fair share of gay drama. They're no different from you or me on this. Based on observance, when push comes to shove, Daddy tries to protect the escorts from doing too much damage to themselves. Hence, his name: Daddy. He'll let the noose come down and form a loop, watching and laughing all the way, while stuffing massive amounts of buttered popcorn down his fat gut. But the moment the escort puts the noose around his neck, Daddy will pull the plug. Escorts tend to respect this treatment, which is why more post there than over here.

Oz's approach seems more democratic. If an escort (or any member) wants to flame and die by his own sword, or stupid words, or troll-behavior bullshit, have at it. He doesn't want to play "Daddy," and he wants adults to behave like the adults they're supposed to be.

Degrading OZ for keeping the site "real" isn't going to work. Many of us are smarter than that. And, in my opinion, members and escorts should feel lucky there is someplace for a grieving escort to go to air his grievances. Escorts sometimes have legitimate grievances, keeping in mind that airing them in public can have consequences.

This mayhem reminds me of some old personal wisdom. I got into a serious kerfuffle once with a lesbian movie executive who blatantly betrayed me shortly after I did her a major mitvah (and mind you, I'm not Jewish). Another executive on the team, who witnessed the bloody 9-inch Wüsthof twisting into my back, whispered in my ear, "Beware of the scorned lesbian!" I turned to the humorous misogynist gay man and replied, "No, no. Beware of the scorned QUEEN!"

[flguy]

I believe it is September 1 today.  All traffic will be coming to this site because today is when JD shuts the other site down.  He's been telling us that for a couple months now.  Better take a look while you can, before its gone forever.

[AdamSmith]

1 hour ago, flguy said:

I believe it is September 1 today.  All traffic will be coming to this site because today is when JD shuts the other site down.  He's been telling us that for a couple months now.  Better take a look while you can, before its gone forever.

[AdamSmith]

18 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

Adam:

Let me be clear.  You said that JD was out of his mind.  You are correct.  And I appreciate your saying it.  I haven't missed what you said.  JD is going to spew endless loads of bile every day as long as he is allowed to.  He did it before I said a word.  He did it after I said a word.  He will do it as long as it is allowed.

It's one thing to say the psychopath is out of his mind, it's another thing to say that the psychopath who is out of his mind is freely allowed to abuse and rape, as long as he does it in the alleyway, not in plain view, although - hell, we might as well take a peak.

Right now - on this website, on this thread -  JD is following through on abusive threats to blackmail and extort that he has been making for over a month to another escort who is completely innocent.  This is not the first time he has done this, and it won't be the last.  Moving the abuse from the main stage to the alley doesn't stop it from being abuse.  Anybody with a heart and decency ought to be screaming "Stop this psychopath from abusing any further!"  He should not be granted a forum to abuse.  Not a theater.  Not an alley.  Not even his own little dark corner of hell.

The only thing to be "fixed" right now is to remove this thread so it can't be seen or commented on.  There are a lot of decent and reputable and compassionate people - escorts and clients - watching this to see what it says about the nature of this particular community.  If you want people to participate in a decent, caring community, you actually have to act like a decent, caring community.

This is a little like saying that Donald Trump being the Republican nominee says nothing, really, about the Republican Party.  He's just there, and it just somehow happened.  If JD is allowed to use the Soapbox, the Sandbox, or any part of this website to extort and blackmail, and everybody tolerates it, it says something not only about JD, but about this community.

Sorry.  This is abuse.  This is extortion.  This is blackmail.  Either you are for it, or you against it.

Steven

I think one of the greatest protections that any victim of JD can have is JD's regrettable, obvious, and ongoing self-destruction through his own posts here.

[Suckrates]

 

 

JD is just a fuckin, Total irreversible MESS, with nuthin but his big mouth !  If he actually HAD something on someone, he would have used it by now, since he has been foaming at the mouth for a year to get back his crown and sash.  His trash talk and finger pointing is reminiscent of Donald Trump, and while Donald MAY end up President,  JD will never again be EOY, or even an escort in good standing within the community.  He will realize he needs to trade the dream of a crown for the reality of a paper Burger King hat,  which may work out for him since a Crown never is a good look on a gherrie curl !  

[AdamSmith]