Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 To OZ, and all fellow members of the Boytoy community: All the made up negative antics Steven is referring of me extorting money from my clients(total bullshit), manipulating others to get what I want out of others/clients(double bullshit), bullying are all false and so untrue of my character. He's only trying to convince the innocent members of this forum making the situation worse by scrambling facts of me being scammed by Dane selfishly advocating falsified claims on my part. He and his prized sidekick, Dane Scott, ( Yes, he's the one who scammed me out of $500.00 to donate towards Steven's page to gain my EOY title back) are experts convincing others they're perfect angels when they're not. In all reality(whether some of you want to admit it or not), Steven is a fucked up mess, a low down bully, a alcoholic, and pathological liar if I ever heard of one being the worse case of it, and he's definitely it. It's not about what I want or what's best for me in this case - it's about Steven and how making me look bad will make him look good. All the shit he said about me, he's only referring to himself as people don't know of me being none of the negative things he's demonstrated in this forum - including the part about me being an extortionist. Trust me, folks this sick demented man is not giving of the full precise story as to all the events the occurred in the past year of our association together. What's even more tragically ironic about the whole situation of our past is he himself needs professional help, and so does Dane being they too have a very unbalanced relationship at times by talking shit behind ones back to others out of frustration( I guess), but claim to love and care about each other. Both of these men have some severe emotion baggage that is so corrupt of they're past younger years it'll take a miracle psychologist in order to help heal they're emotional scars and wounds. Steven is trying his damnest to convince others on this forum and outside of the forums his friend is of a heart of gold(at least I thought the same of Dane as well being we were friends before I met Steven), but after he screwed me over like he did - he's a pile of horse shit in my eyes just as bad as Steven and Daddy are. You don't rip some off someone under false pretenses, and then praise them to the world in defense of them having the characteristics of one whos of a heart of gold. Bitch please! Out of anything, He's a con-artist, and a lying manipulating thief? By Steven upholding what his friend has done, and by making me out to be the enemy just shows how twisted and of a sick deranged, self-egotistical asshole he is. Steven's self-centering, dishonest, mind playing games of manipulation is total heading playing bullshit, and lies he's created in his own demented little head because he and his sidekick, Dane Scott, have been found guilty for extorting and scamming me out of $500.00. I'll be the first to say Dane succeeded quite well, and got me good, but not well enough due to the plan I got I have in store for they evil deed, and boy it's a good one. So, to soften the blow(not to mention embarrassment of they're hideous crime that backfired on them publically here on boytoy), poor Steven is calling himself doing what he imitates and does best as an ex-community organizer is: manipulate facts by covering up and defending what his someone has done and not taking responsibility for his disturbed friends crime of extortion by making me look out to be crazy, and trying to make all emails Dane has sent to me in relation to helping Steven in his financial incapability to pay his promised contributions out to be fabricated and a lie to seek and gain attention for himself at the sake to help regain my EOY title back as promised. You would think after what I've done for him regarding the rentboyfund.org fund I would have received a "Thank You, JD for your contributions", or "Sorry you were scammed" in order to help make peace for my misfortune, but no, Steven still wants to be a fucked up bitter prick who has nothing better to do but simmer in his own hate regarding the past. It's not my fault Dane is pissed at Steven voting for me as number one for EOY and not him. Yeah, Dane has admitted to me in a past phone conversation that was not elated or amused that Steven sided against him and voted for me as his choice as number one for EOY. He made Dane as his second choice placing him as number two. Steven deliberately sabotaged the situation in making his vote public on the forum on purpose to create friction between me and Dane as possible allies for whatever sinister reason as he was suppose to make his vote for both parties he wanted to see win public. Anyone who was involved in the election knows what I'm saying is the absolute truth. You don't believe me -go see for yourself. Another flaw Dane is pissed off about that is adding more serious fuel to the fire of Steven unethical practices of confidentiality towards his fellow peers by playing head games towards me and Dane(I know I'm gonna get docked for this but have no choice considering of the slander Steven said about me) stating that Dane at a younger age was raped. Dane was infuriated Steven would insinuate such a thing took place in his younger years, but managed to clear up Steven's lie stating he wasn't raped, molested, or violated. Steven claims in his past communications that he told me about Danes misfortune situation for us to grow closer together being of what Steven knew of me being "violated" during a "Demo" at the Forum Event in DC in January 2015. Steven is stating the alleged rape didn't take place and how I lied about it, but he can't convince 4 out of the 8 who attended that it isn't true because it is. Steven (and the individual who's in question of the alleged rape taking place) caused others a certain percentage of members to attend the PS event cause he told the individual in question on a private PM of what I confided in him of what actually happened being Steven was questioning why I had such resentment towards this person and was in tears. The escort decided to his own defense (after what Steven told him as a form to get back at me for multiple reasons, and me telling Dane information Steven told me being one of the reasons for his retaliation towards me) post a thread on the forum to inquire what people have heard about what happened in DC wasn't true and that I was making the whole thing up out to seek attention of some kind. TOTAL BULLSHIT. What made the person who's in question guilty was when one of his long-term clients(who knew of the rape being true, and who was at the Demo event) confronted him, and reminded him I wasn't exaggerating as to what happened as she knows I told this person I didn't want to be penetrated as the individual in question guaranteed along with his assistant wasn't going to happen, and he did anyway. She confronted him a week before the PS 2016 event that she thinks he did rape me, and wasn't going to sweep it under the rug. He threatened her and warned her if she attended the PS event he would make her life there a living hell without question. She decided not to attend as the escort disbanded his relationship with her as a client of many years, and threatened her enjoyment there at the PS event being ruined and turned upside down. Seems to a lot of members for someone to make such a threat is guilty as sin if they have to threaten someone to not attend what's suppose to be an all welcoming event. Steven is truly without a shadow of a doubt to thank for the drama he caused entirely being that his plan to retaliate by using what this escort did so call incriminate me with backfire and caused the escort in question at the same time lose a long-term client due to his manipulative schemed based plan that eventually failed. However, he still is calling this escort in question a "friend". Yeah, a friend that threatened someone to not attend an event or make they're life there a living hell at a forum event - give me a fucking break, Kesslar. Here is an email that'll summarize very clearly what I'm stating is the truth being of the lying manipulative prick Steven is by twisting facts that later was revealed by Dane by on our phone conversation he wasn't raped or molested in the past......... This was an email dated back March 4, 2016.... STEVEN'S TEXT: "I am going to defend myself, which includes making very sure Dane understands why I did what I did when you attempt to"get even.". I will tell him that I mistakenly thought that you both have a degree of compassion and maturity that would allow you to share with each other a common and painful experience. It was a huge mistake on my part to assume that, and try to promote a friendship that does not and can not exist. The apology owed for that is to him. I will apologize to him, again. You might consider doing the same. The further this goes and the more you reveal, I can assure you it will lead to things you really don't want to hear, and other people don't want to say, whether its about you, or me. It will diminish and discredit us both. Do me a favor please, Steven: don't brag to others or to me how close you are to Dane stating of this information you revealed in your text. I found that out you guys have more of a casual here and there type of friendship as you guys have never been intimate, or in a relationship, and has even admitted he won't and never do jobs together with you in my recent conversation with him as this proves you two don't get along as the closest of friends you present onto others on the forum how close you are to him. This is what Steven says creating a Birthday thread for him not long after Dane didn't win EOY(What I see is someone trying to suck up after Dane literally said Steven fucked up by not voting for him at number 1.) STEVEN'S BIRTHDAY POST FOR DANE: Well, what can I say? There are worse things on your birthday than ending up with cream on your face. Whatever you end up doing today, my friend, have a blessed and Happy Birthday. And at the risk of saying too much, and too much personal, thank you for being who you are. It was a pleasure to celebrate 3 things with 4 margaritas with you: a New Year, your birthday, and your continued acclaim as an Escort of the Year finalist. You define what a mature Gay escort should be. And you do it in a quiet, humble, and above all heartfelt way. My life is richer because you are part of it. Many people on this site feel that way about you. It doesn't even need to be said. It just is. You are not only what a Gay escort should be. You are a wonderful Gay son, Gay brother, Gay uncle, Gay friend, Gay buddy, and Gay confidante. And of course there are your fabulous Gay cookies. Who knows, maybe you could even be Gay President, but then we'd have to share you with the world. I'm glad we get your special kindnesses and courtesies all to ourselves. You are a wonderful man, and you make maturity and compassion look sexy. Happy Birthday. You are our gift, and we love you. Here is what Steven's vote for Dane for EOY which Dane that seems false according to what Dane has openly admit that never was of they're off and on friendship. Even Steven himself has admitted they've been at odds before off and on, so to me what he says about Dane doesn't make sense if he feels so odd towards him at times: STEVENS VOTE FOR DANE: 2. Dane Scott. Actually, I love this man, and it is painful to say Dane is #2 in anything. I respect him and value his friendship more than any other escort I know. It's actually hard to compare Dane and JD, because they are almost opposites. Dane is gentle (mostly ) and soft-spoken and leads with his heart, and his strength is the kind that comes from enduring warmth and deep caring. I adore him, and it is clear to me that his clients do, too. It of course helps that he is handsome and ripped and sexy and a tiger in bed. But who cares about that stuff, anyway? He is what all escorts should be; a sexy man with a lovely body and a loving heart. This is what Steven has indicated what his friendship(now) with Dane is after I have confided on having a serious talk with Dane about his many infidelities: STEVEN'S TEXT: You definitely can't threaten my friendship with Dane. You've actually brought us closer together. I've already apologized to him and told him I was wrong and he was right. I should never have trusted you. The only thing you can tell him is that I made a mistake in character judgment by trusting and confiding in somebody abusive like you. He knows that already. We've already had long conversations about your abusive behavior. You really want to confirm to him what a jerk you can be? He's one of the most compassionate men I know, but i don't think that includes tolerance for your manipulation and abuse. MY RESPONSE: Dane has openly admitted to me in an interesting phone conversation, he has not had any communication with you whatsoever regarding such topics of my so-called "abusive" behavior or an apology in person or by phone with you. He regrettably denied and apologized you told me such false information, so I guess really that makes YOU out to be a liar. He's even shared with me he's confronted you personally about you telling something I wasn't suppose to know, and has forewarned you he wants no part of this drama that's going on between ME AND YOU. Like he said himself, all this is ridiculous, but none of this would have happened if you for one, Steven didn't slander me on the forum, and number two didn't get others involved in our drama privately and publically on the forum. As a matter of fact - he feels the same way I do to why your being viciously mean as he told me he confided in you how disappointed he was you didn't put him at number 1 instead of me for EOY. You see this what makes you now look ridiculously stupid by being vicious as you have been to me I know why you became nasty to me more and more being after Dane told you information - this is when you became more and more resistant towards me based out of guilt without knowing (til now) Dane has admitted this to me he opened up to you of his disappointment in you voting against him. You see you guys, Steven was suppose to do his vote for me and Dane by via email to Daddy, and at the last minute decided to vote on the forum which wasn't in his agenda to do being how he wanted to prevent this sort of outcome from happening, but thanks to him not doing what he said he was going to do to prevent that drama from happening between me and Dane. What does Steven do - he does his vote on the forum anyway which caused Dane to question Steven's loyalty in the end I guess. :(. What a shocker huh? You see Steven didn't tell anybody about that missing piece of the puzzle here. Yeah!!! I wanna see him explain his reasoning out of this. If you make threats and cause drama with Dane and Daddy and me you have to know it will simply discredit you even more than you just did with your ridiculous post and defensiveness. Did you not read what Daddy said to you? Do you not get that he is losing patience with your bullshit, as is everybody else? MY RESPONSE: I think you already took it there by discrediting both of our credibility when you pulled that horrific stunt in slandering me that got us both timed-out. You have yourself to thank for that as your a grown man who is responsible for his own actions. The same goes for me by responding like I did as I have to take responsibility for that along with my actions as well. If your so close to him - why trash and doubt him so much? You're only doing this to rub it in my face, and prove something that's worthless in being proved upon knowing of what I know as Dane told me the full history, and trust me, it's NOTHING to what you said on the forum AT ALL. And don't call yourself trying to use Daddy against me either as if he didn't know a lot of this information - well guess what - he does now being he knows it's true as how else could I have known a lot to why it was you guys didn't speak or was on the forum for 3 years. Even though you, Don, and Oliver all spoke negatively of him at the Pool Party, I still was speaking highly of him, and even encouraged you to give him another chance is what brought you two together eventually for his birthday in the end. So, if I'm so "self-absorbed" and "selfish" as you proclaim me to be, why in the hell would I bring you two together for his birthday so you can spend time with him, and get to know him? Just so I can suck up to him and be made EOY. Oh please. Give me a fucking break as none of bringing you guys together or his birthday had NOTHING to do with me as I only wanted you guys to enjoy each other again, and have a good-time. Your really full of crap if you believe that I was being "selfish and self-absorbed" as you were the one trashing him along with your other two buddies, and it was ME who made the situation positive in the end by bringing you guys together again, so just admit it that I did a great thing by doing so, shut the fuck up, and let's move on. From this point on I'm gonna leave you alone being how ALL of you have done me wrong at this point in one way form or another, and quite sick of it. I feel even Dane in some ways have done me wrong as well by telling you to not trust me, but then again - he found out YOU can't be trusted at all either considering what he informed me as he apologized stating he couldn't trust you either now at this point as you trashed and slandered him as you have now done unto me. He cant talk either I guess being he trashed me telling you to not trust me, so it seems to me everyone seems to be trashing each other, and can't be trusted when you come to think of it. Seems everyone has "trashed" everyone in some of form or another. Steven, I don't know what your problem is as why you being so viciously manipulative and abusive, but your only creating more problems for yourself by being on the attack as you are. You should see by now I'm not the "push-over/kiss-ass" type of guy you want me to be, and will NOT tolerate people trying to belittle, deframe or controlling me. I find it sad how others wanna bash and wrong me when they can't treat me however way they want". Anyone who is of trying to preserve they're used to wanna be, back in they're hay day lifestyle (of what's now after all this drama) damaged good is these two fucked up old timers - Yes, I'm referring to Steven, and his extortionist friend, Dane Scott. Not only is Steven deranged and disturbed, but he's one who's incredibly insane at the sometime to think he can convince people(and especially someone he voted as EOY) on any forum that I'm a mind playing, manipulative, and nassaristic extortionist who's only out for nobody for himself which are total bullshit lies he's dragged out of the coffin of his grave to conceive which NOT going to work. If I'm this egotistical, self-centered, manipulative, bullying, extortionist who's mentally unstable then why would he have rooted for me as number one for EOY and not his prized possessive friend, Dane Scott? Why would he have made public on a forum of his vote instead of submitting his vote privately like he said he was going to do to avoid any friction it would have brought between me, him, and Dane? He knew his vote publicly for me as number one would upset Dane, and challenge/question they're relationship as friends. So, why did he do it unless it was for a sinister reason for attention or something as I can't figure out why he would back out on his promise like that. Maybe you guys can make sense of this betrayal they have against each other at times because I sure can't understand it to save my life. Oh boys, boys, lemme clarify and straighten out something else that's beyond imagination that Steven has distorted very well about my so-called "extortionist" behavior as I NEVER came to him for advice about how to extort money from the wife of my dead celebrity client in a sinister way as he made it out to be in his last post. He's such a fucking liar if I ever heard of such a thing as this man will say ANYTHING to prove a point(even if it means twisting the truth for his own gain and reputation to remain clever). Here's what really happened regarding that issue as I'm not an extortionist of any kind or know how to be one. He and Dane might be as they successfully did to me, but I'm not one or want to become one....... During one of my monthly weekend visits with Steven at his home in Palm Springs, I confided in Steven of my concern of a fellow escort friend of mine in West Hollywood (we're no longer friends anymore BTW) who wanted me to go in with him in extorting money from the dead wife of a celebrity we worked with together in the past years. I confided in Steven(worse mistake ever as this loser can't keep his mouth shut or anything confidential to save a whales life with) of the escort potentially blackmailing me and my good name publically to get what he wanted out of the widow of the dead celebrity we tag teamed for. I asked Steven what I should do about the matter as it wouldn't be right to do such a thing, but this escort is looking to expose my name in this which could cause potential harm to me and my good name in the community. Steven gave some excellent advice on what to do and how to go about turning the situation I was faced with around for the better. Once I returned to LA I had a long, but serious talk with this escort buddy of mine, and told him I will not side with him in this dishonest act of exposing our clients infidelities or participation of what we did with him of any kind that is outrageous and unethical to conduct as escorts. The escort went ballistic, and kicked me out of his apartment without any form of closure or goodbye. Steven exaggerated another lie stating I lied about honestly receiving a large generous "tip" from a wealthy long-term client out of extortion. Complete false as the client gave me out of the kindness of his heart a big sum of money for which Steven claimed during a conversation we had about he was happy of how I landed such fortune and was somewhat a little jealous or green with envy one must say). Steven mentioned at times he does have a jealous streak, and I believe that is what part of his anger toward me now is an aggressive force of his disturbing hatred towards me is all about. He stated to me during breakfast at his house at one time when we were discussing why he called off our dating/sexual relationship to just a friendship on how he would be very disappointed in himself and highly upset if he gave up a good guy like me who eventually became EOY. He said, he realizes it's his loss, and would deal with it. What he was basically coming up with was the "it's not you, it's me " speech. Eyes roll. Let's face it, Steven and Danes actions practically is acting out of anger and jealousy. Especially Dane who is upset at me for Steven over the whole EOY business. Died laughing when he said I was in trouble with not paying my rent and how I had to beg another friend for money cause he couldn't give it to me. Lol. Yeah right, Steven - you wish that was the cause maybe of me having unfortunate complications with my rent, but it wasn't as once again you fabricated another twisted tale to your lies. I wasn't in trouble with not having the funds paying my rent - I had an issue as we were on our way from Vegas that was upsetting that I was possibly being evicted not because I couldn't afford to pay my rent, but because I was accused it wasn't received as I paid my mortgage by via mail 4 days before I went to stay the night at Steven's - before we set sail to Vegas to visit Daddy for his birthday back in November 2015. Save the bullshit, Steven for you and Dane maliciously scam your next victim cause trust me I have so much dirt on you that I'm going to dish out it'll make your head spin, and here it goes as Steven brought it on himself slandering me to the gills of false accusations and twisted facts, and now it's my turn, but only my version is the truth unlike yours which were deliberately all lies from the grave you crawled out of: You see folks me and Steven back last year use to date(or you can say "talking") not long after we met for the first time at the 2015 PS Event. You can kind of say we were inseparable on the right path of a possible dating relationship as we called each other everyday, would see each other for a weekend once a month, and enjoy spending time together as much as we could as often as we could. Somehow down the line that all changed as down the line(after one of Steven's clients who's obsessed with him poisoned his head full of lies of of comments I didn't say) he changed, and bought into the bullshit his jealous friends and clients were saying about me. Steven one day disappeared without calling me for an entire week after I've tried calling him numerous of times trying to reach him and see what was wrong as to why he vanished without reason. He called a week later to inform me he thinks it'll be best to remain as friends as he can't deal with being in a relationship as we were courting too soon at a pace that was unsettling for him at the time being he's of someone who enjoys being on his own without being in a possible relationship. The pace of him handling such a fast growing relationship was too much for him to handle. I was devastated and heartbroken because I really liked him and wanted to grow further more in getting to know him. As time went on, I learned to let go, and remain as friends as he wished and felt was best for both of us in getting to know each other more on a level that's comfortable for him. Our relationship as friends went good for awhile, but we started to grow further apart alot more once he started conducting such off-the-wall behavior such as telling other people we knew in our circle confidential information I asked for him not to reveal to others, twist facts about his past relationship with Dane and him being involved in a relationship, talking shit about other escort behind they're backs, and seeing he is one who is emotionally/mentally unstable and abusive was why a possible relationship(romantically) didn't last. One of the many flaws of Steven's personality that was a major shocker to me was when he trashed a fellow escort revealing information about they're past with a client. The escort was: Alec Andrews(who use to go back the name of "Overnight John"). Steven went on and on how this escort as unreliable with clients and couldn't understand what clients see in him being he is not as sincere and trustworthy as people make him out to be. Trashing him going back some years ago when Alec(back then as "Overnight John") stood up a client at a Broadway show in NYC at the last minute due to him falling in love with someone, and couldn't make the engagement - left the client high and dry. Then client however developed a relationship with Steven, and dismissed any business relation he had or was going to eventually pursue with Alec(Overnight John). Steven is NOT in any shape or form as perfect and innocent as he make himself out to be as this man has some serious faults he needs help for. He's so busy pointing fingers at everyone else's wrong doings or mistakes he tends to forget his own fuck ups he needs to work on, and revealing other peoples secrets is not wise way to build a relationship that involves trust in you. He's violated that trust in our previous friendship with me several times in the past is which finally caused me to lose all faith in his ability to be of a true friend seeing he doesn't mind either kicking you to curb or leaving you out to dry in a minute. I have advised him to seek help numerous of times when we were on good terms, but he refused to seek some help being he felt ashamed in doing so, and thinking he is mentally stable enough to not have to see head doctor. I know he went for therapy when he was married, but quit going to continued therapy session not long after his divorce. Oz, I'm not to allow for one minute and be a witness to this trash playing piece of shit thugs tarnish me in any way just cause Steven cant deal with the reality of being called out on his best friends bullshit and infidelities by extorting me. It's ironic how your going to extort someone out of $500.00, but want to turn around and lie stating they made all of it up. All I have to do to prove both of these losers are factitious liars is show anyone who questions me on this matter regarding Dane's scam is show on my labtop the emails Dane sent which isn't fabricated as it'll have his email address on it. Trust me - people know Dane is the culprit, and Steven is out for blood trying to slander and tarnish my name in however way he can possible. Steven lying stating I switched the emails and used false documentation through the rentmen email system are all a bunch of cockamamie LIES as Steven is only trying to cover him and Dane's asses. Steven lied to the administrators stating I manipulated the system creating false emails. Rentmen notified to make me aware they know I was scammed, and have seen the emails that were sent from Dane's account being they took whatever warning flag they have on me off as I provided documented proof, so the joke is on Steven trying to lie and deceive his way in getting me in trouble by having me banned as conniving little scheme didn't work as they know(once again) who's the villain and who's the angel in this matter. They're lying and deceiving others is gonna catch up to them one of these days. I may have been born at night, but not last night as I know how to play the game when it comes to covering my ass, and know how to back someone in a corner when someone tries to pull the wool over my eyes thinking cause I'm a nice guy I'm a some sort of pushover. It's a shame Steven is making me out to be like Candice from the TV drama "The Have And Have Nots" as Candice is EVERYTHING he is making me out to be like her on the show. Something tells me he's been getting some "tips and pointers" from this show possibly on how blackmailers who are extortionist work being that is one of her character prism strengths on the show. Then has the audacity on this forum to associate me of the characteristics of a "Thug". LOL. At least I'm not like his crooked trifling friend who conned me out of $500.00. No one has ever known me to scam them out of any kind of money. If out of anything I've always been very giving towards others. Extremely giving. Steven know how giving I've been to others. People who are extortionist are not very giving or compassionate people. Oz, all I want for Steven is to get the professional help I pleaded for him to get back 8 months ago, and he refused saying he didn't need to seek any professional help as he's been there and done it in the past. Seeing how he'll hang innocent people who's done NOTHING but good for him - I think it'll be in his best interest at heart is to seek help to heal whatever emotional wounds he's bitterly trying to heal on his own, but can't. I know he's one who does have a bit of the bottle now and then which is a contributing factor to his many insane issues, but his constant belittling abusive behavior is getting old as every time he has a bone to pick with me - I got a bitch slap bone to hit him back with everytime he comes growling and foaming at the mouth towards me. I would prefer to be at peace with this eventually, but seeing he wants to be at war - I'll give it to him so he'll know he's met his match. I'm no pushover as I know how to fight back and fight back hard and dirty just like him. Sometimes you just gotta show people as stubborn as Kesslar is that it just don't pay to be a evil and cruel to others. Hopefully one day soon Steven will learn how karma works. Once again - I'm not evil person, extortionist, bully, manipulator, liar of any kind. I just want revenge of some sort for someone thinking they can take advantage of me and my kindness. I was kind to the very person Dane wanted me to help, and got burned and treated like scum. I'm sure if it was you guys you'd be as angry as I would. I'm a nice guy with a good heart, and believe in being loving/helping others, and intend to remain that way and not be burned like this again by nobody. What I did was out of good intentions in helping Steven financially not knowing the person possibly needed help financially. What's upsetting is Steven being shitty to me still after all this time seeing his friend intentionally lied to me, but making me out to be crazy as if I'm fabricating the whole thing as he good and well knows what Dane did. It's okay though - karma will get him. I'm not no longer going to convince anyone how innocent I am in this as I know what proof I have to verify what I'm stating is the truth, and if anyone wants to see this evidence for themselves - they're more welcome to ask me to see as I got nothing to hide. Steven I'm sure does being he knows he's lying, but I'm not. My reasons for not helping towards the Rentboy cause in the past was due to the fact both Steven and I were losing clients on the count of being involved with the whole Rentboy fiasco. He himself was having clients threaten to dismiss him if he didn't straighten up his act and give up the whole Rentboy drama of is fighting for the cause. You noticed how Steven made no mention about how shitty he thought it was that Dane wasn't involved, but wants to drag my name in the dirt for not donating at the time. At least I showed my support in various other ways as Dane wasn't participating at all being he was scared shitless of losing business and possibly going to jail on the count of Rentboy being busted. Hey - I just wanna clear up this mess of Steven stating I'm making these emails up, So, I'll even make a deal with some of you - if any of you clients hire me, and would like to see this evidence to state I'm telling you the truth - to show what a liars these two men are - i'll provide a free session. That's how confident I am in proving how sincere and honest I am about this of how I was scammed. I can promise you if I can't provide the proof then the clients will get money, and a free session. Can't get no better than that right. Anyway Oz, I just needed to get this off my chest by setting the record straight that I'm not a criminal or a thief as Steven made me out to be to cover his lying friend's ass of me being scammed by trying to turn the tables on me, but it isn't going to work being I'm willing to show potential clients who may not believe me who's honest and who isn't. I think that's fair in this game of Steven and Dane's. Hell - I'll even do the same for those of you who don't believe about this email business with Killian's harassing emails as he's so held bent in saying I fabricated the email I posted here on boytoy, and then later had deleted. I'll provide proof on that too. That way people will see with they're own eyes that BOTH Steven and Killian are liars when it comes to this email business, and trying to make me out to be this sinister monster making me look bad. I'll show them how it isn't smart to play a well educated escort as I have my ways of proving my shit to the fullest and without any problems. They'll see how it doesn't pay to play a sharp cookie like me seeing how Steven said I'm stupid and sloppy. Well my dear, you'll see stupid and sloppy when clients tell you what a rotten lying bastard you are for dragging my name in the mud telling false tales you know were true from the start. We'll see how you weasel your way out of this one if found guilty. Wink!! Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 When is this boy ever going to learn? What a menace as he must not have a life or busy working as he claims he is..... Killian James <killianjamesnyc@gmail.com> To Pornstar4utonite Today at 12:37 AM Yo...you made up 8 emails from dane scott and made them look like they were sent from within rentmen.com? Holy shit thats ultimate career suicide. I just got off the phone with him and let him know how bad i was making life for you. Now he knows its okay to do the same. Yo nugg, this gonna be real fun cause the more the merrier. -- This email is being sent from my mobile. Please excuse any typos. Reply, Reply All or Forward | More Quote
Members Suckrates Posted August 31, 2016 Members Posted August 31, 2016 JD, just so it's CLEAR to you...... THIS is what we come here for..... NOT to listen to you whine about your ongoing Queen feud.. You are ruining the site experience for EVERYONE... Handle your shit PRIVATELY ! PLEASE !!!!!!! MsAnn and paulsf 2 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted August 31, 2016 Members Posted August 31, 2016 READ our Faces...... "WE DON'T CARE JD"...... ALL this Bullshit is a "Dick Deflator"..... (even with Viagra) MsAnn, AdamSmith and paulsf 3 Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 8 hours ago, JDDanielsxxx said: When is this boy ever going to learn? What a menace as he must not have a life or busy working as he claims he is..... Killian James <killianjamesnyc@gmail.com> To Pornstar4utonite Today at 12:37 AM Yo...you made up 8 emails from dane scott and made them look like they were sent from within rentmen.com? Holy shit thats ultimate career suicide. I just got off the phone with him and let him know how bad i was making life for you. Now he knows its okay to do the same. Yo nugg, this gonna be real fun cause the more the merrier. -- This email is being sent from my mobile. Please excuse any typos. Reply, Reply All or Forward | More I hope you solve this problem. But I can't solve it for you. None of us can. Therefore, I don't want to hear about it or know about it. It's none of my business. Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Sure you guys dont. At least your aware of what's going on, and that's all that matters at this point. So make jokes about my misfortune, but the facts are the facts no matter if certain people on here make light of it or not. Thanks, JD Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said: Sure you guys dont. At least your aware of what's going on, and that's all that matters at this point. So make jokes about my misfortune, but the facts are the fact no matter how you all certain people on here make light of it. Thanks, JD That was not a joke. It was a sincere statement that you are doing yourself and your reputation more harm than good by hashing all this out in public, instead of in private and in court if necessary. Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Well, you guys didn't seem to mind it when Steven dished out the drama he dished out, so why should I be any different in this case? Some of you are saying you don't care cause I'm defending myself and allowing someone lying on me which makes perfect sense. I'm sure if it was someone else who(like Kesslar who's on the defense) it'll be different. Maybe not with all members, but for some. I'll leave it alone, but was not going to allow someone to lie stating I'm a blackmailer and extortionist being I don't rip off people or scam other escorts. I don't wrong people as I've done alot of good for people (as most of you have seen). Only reason these people are being vicious and vendictive l like they are cause we're no longer friends and they've been called out on they're bluff in doing wrong to me or others. So, if speaking my mind like Steven has is ruining me - ok. I'm sure if your saying this to me about the feud - the same rule or theory should apply to Steven, Dane, and Killian as well I hope. Makes sense to me. :). Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said: Well, you guys didn't seem to mind it when Steven dished out the drama he dished out, so why should I be any different in this case? You are out of your mind. We flamed back at Draker as hard as we could without getting banned ourselves. After Draker hurled one too many turds at me, Oz even made a public post offering me the privilege to tell him to ban Draker if I wanted too. (I didn't.) Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 No, I'm not out of my mind. Draker did this exact same shit by bullying others - Especially me. Always picking and nabbing at me whatever chance he got. I agree, there were times we got him good regarding the flame war he created, but there were times he succeeded too. You saw me defend myself whenever he was on his soapbox saying shitty things about me all the time. I'm sorry me defending myself against slander offends some of you. Innocently defending myself isn't a crime - scamming innocent people who don't deserve it is. I'm sure you can agree. Wink. Quote
Guest Scorpio Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 19 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said: No, I'm not out of my mind. Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted August 31, 2016 Members Posted August 31, 2016 This is extortion and blackmail. Period. I naively made the mistake of trying to become friends with this psychopath, to my regret. In that sense, I agree with Suckrates and others that have suggested I have some responsibility for this mess. Guilty as charged. The best solution is simple: Oz can simply flush the toilet and get rid of the shit. There will be no "fixing' or "healing" of relationships with an abusive psychopath. Moving the abuse to the Sandbox simply allows a psychopath to build a huge mountain of bullshit, and the continuation of this thread and other endless rants by the same psychopath proves it. The escort that JD has been emotionally abusing, harassing, and threatening with blackmail and extortion for over a month - really for over a year - has nothing to do with this, did nothing wrong, and simply has been tolerating boatloads of unwanted and unfair email abuse. This is a horrific, horrific, horrific precedent. It is cruel, and I can't believe a decent community would stand for it. I hope this is not that kind of community. Quote
Guest Larstrup Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 According to one of JD's past rants, the two of your were entangled in an emotional and sexual relationship for a period of time. Is it possible that the ending of that relationship is at the core of this heaping pile of bullshit? Because honestly, this is one of the nastiest soap operas I can ever recall happening anywhere. Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 25 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: It is cruel, and I can't believe a decent community would stand for it. I hope this is not that kind of community. If you have the impression that people here are "standing" for it, much less believing anything that the OP says these days, then I don't think you've been reading our replies to him, in this thread and in others. paulsf 1 Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 28 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: This is extortion and blackmail. Period. I naively made the mistake of trying to become friends with this psychopath, to my regret. In that sense, I agree with Suckrates and others that have suggested I have some responsibility for this mess. Guilty as charged. The best solution is simple: Oz can simply flush the toilet and get rid of the shit. There will be no "fixing' or "healing" of relationships with an abusive psychopath. Moving the abuse to the Sandbox simply allows a psychopath to build a huge mountain of bullshit, and the continuation of this thread and other endless rants by the same psychopath proves it. The escort that JD has been emotionally abusing, harassing, and threatening with blackmail and extortion for over a month - really for over a year - has nothing to do with this, did nothing wrong, and simply has been tolerating boatloads of unwanted and unfair email abuse. This is a horrific, horrific, horrific precedent. It is cruel, and I can't believe a decent community would stand for it. I hope this is not that kind of community. The only psychopath and loser here is....YOU, Steven!!! You're a lying manipulative, self-righteous SOB who has nothing better to do but lie and cheat your way to the top or to get in good with people for your own benefit. Like you did by blabbing to someone of my secret I asked you NOT to reveal, but you did it anyway despite you said you wouldn't break that confidence, and you did. I certainly made a BIG mistake in ever trusting you with anything as you cant seem to keep your big mouth shut and everyone(including the innocent woman who was suppose to come the PS event back in May) even knows you blabs too much that'll get others into trouble. Even she knows your fucked up ass is what help cost me my EOY. Oz knows who's lying and who's telling the truth in this case as you have no creditability trying to cover up lies, Steven. At least not with him. Let it go already for goodness sakes. Be a man and just tell the TRUTH and stop this bullshit on how I'm a so-called extortionist. Your only making that up cause your trying to make your friend out to be innocent and me look like the bad guy. For 2 years you've been abusive, manipulative, vindictive, conniving, trifling, self-centered, arrogant, worthless piece of shit who's been out to make my life miserable for two years over pettiness and finally sick of it as you've met your match when it comes to seeing you get yours. Your not convincing anyone with your BS plea in making me out to be look crazy regarding a scam your so-called "friend" committed against me. Your claiming to fellow members I'm abusing, harassing, and threatening Dane as certain members know your the one who's lying. All anyone has to do is go on Rentboyfund.org and see what's been happening. You're not fooling anyone with his false plea how Dane didn't do no wrong. BULLSHIT. You mark my words as one day, Steven this nasty of yours is all gonna come back to haunt you and haunt you good. Just remember, Steven - God doesn't like ugly, and I have seen some members from Daddy's site who've done me or others wrong and are now suffering in some form of way. One doesn't have to do anything - karma has a way of getting those who hurt others, and believe me - you're time will come. It already is seeing of the struggles your going through with your family as it is. Say all you want about me as the more wrong you do to me or and others - the worse it'll backfire on you. Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, Larstrup said: According to one of JD's past rants, the two of your were entangled in an emotional and sexual relationship for a period of time. Is it possible that the ending of that relationship is at the core of this heaping pile of bullshit? Because honestly, this is one of the nastiest soap operas I can ever recall happening anywhere. Yes, me and Steven (unfortunately and regretfully to say the least) were involved sexually as well as "talking/courting" romantically at one point and time for a little over a month or two not long after the 2015 Palm Springs Event back last year. Like I said, Steven isn't telling the full story about our past history and romantic involvement together, but I will since he doesn't mind dishing out dirt on me so much. It's time to dish out dirt on him(on us). I was said to see he even lied to Daddy about our courtship when Daddy as "were we" or "are we" an item, and Steven in front of me denied it like it never happened. It's okay as Daddy got proof of it later that Steven lied stating we "never" were involved in some way sexually in the past. From what I even understand both him and Dane were even involved together at one point. There is a lot of baggage behind that relationship too which is why Dane was pissed Steven placed me as his number one choice as EOY, and I'm sure Dane scamming me has a lot to do with getting even with me in some sinister way like he did. Anybody who knows us behind-the-scenes are aware of the history. Quote
Guest DirtyBird Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 18 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said: For 2 years you've been abusive, manipulative, vindictive, conniving, trifling, self-centered, arrogant, worthless piece of shit who's been out to make my life miserable for two years over pettiness and finally sick of it as you've met your match when it comes to seeing you get yours. And you put up with this behavior because you thought there was something in it for you, namely EOY. What’s that say about you? Why is it again that you contributed to the rentboy fund? In one post you say you did it because you were happy to because it was such a worthy cause. In another, you say you contributed because you were scheming behind Daddy’s back trying to get the EOY crown returned. So, which is it? Quote
paulsf Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Why do you need to drag this site into your personal issues. Nobody here supports either of you. Go get your lawyers and judges and settle your problems . For a year you have been acting like 12 year olds, it's about time you start acting like adults. Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 52 minutes ago, DirtyBird said: And you put up with this behavior because you thought there was something in it for you, namely EOY. What’s that say about you? Why is it again that you contributed to the rentboy fund? In one post you say you did it because you were happy to because it was such a worthy cause. In another, you say you contributed because you were scheming behind Daddy’s back trying to get the EOY crown returned. So, which is it? To make one thing clear - I never "schemed" behind Daddy's back for anything - including for the EOY title as I was approached by Steven's friend to do this not only to win back my title and reviews, but to help make amends with BOTH men, and to help towards the cause - Understand. If you go on www.rentboyfund.org you'll see I made donations on others pages besides Steven's which will prove I wanted to help in more ways then one. It was ALL out of good intentions as I was also under the impression according to Dane's email, Steven was losing his home, and by him not making his promised contributions was making him look bad to other members which is why I told Dane I would do all I can to help with his past contributions. Steven and I might be at each others throats, but I'm not one to wanna see him lose his beautiful home. I do have a heart, and not one who'll wish something such as that on nobody. Dane felt by me contributing to help Steven would help clear up any misunderstandings, and show me as the bigger person in being open-minded to make amends - "let sleeping dogs lie" as they say. Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said: It was ALL out of good intentions as I was also under the impression according to Dane's email, Steven was losing his home, and by him not making his promised contributions was making him look bad to other members which is why I told Dane I would do all I can to help with his past contributions. Little bit of institutional memory... JD, unfortunately you threw away the last of your credibility when you created the screen name John Lucas on Daddy's forum: http://message-forum.net/threads/new-to-the-forum.113354/page-2#post-1082311 The trouble was, John Lucas wrote exactly the way that you do, and that no one else on the forums does. Then a new member "Clouseau" appeared on this forum posting that "Rockhard returns as John Lucas!!" But after a few posts saying that, Clouseau finally posted: Ok so a confession of sorts. I was offered a free massage by JD to create a thread to create a smoke screen to support a new user personality he created over at daddy's forums. I was supposed to do it over there but when the registration process turned out to be days he told me to do it over here. Since then, I've actually read all the other crazy threads over there which I was unaware of and honestly feel nauseous and used by him over this. I'm sorry for the charade. I have just now blocked all phone and email communications with him as I truly believe he has a severe mental illness. Sorry. Quote
Guest JDDanielsxxx Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 I'm sorry you feel that way, Adam, but I can rest assure you I wasn't John Lucas. John is a client of mine, yes, but I wasn't posting on the forum as him as your sadly mistaken on that. He opened an account on the forum to help be a positive force of support after witnessing members were giving somewhat of a hard time like they were on there at the time. He meant well you can say, but just wasn't a wise idea on his part. If you seem to remember Suckrates made the same mistake accusing me on here (boytoy) of posting as someone else. He saw it was a fellow member on Daddy's who also had an account on here as well. I guess you can accuse him of having the same simular writing style too as to why Suckrates would make such a mistake on the forum like he did, right? Quote
Guest Scorpio Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 35 minutes ago, JDDanielsxxx said: To make one thing clear - I never "schemed" behind Daddy's back for anything - including for the EOY title...... It was ALL out of good intentions..... Quote