RockHard from days gone by

[flguy]

I just noticed that RockhardNYC was online here at Boytoy in the last 24 hours.  Could this be the amusing poster that entertained us many years ago????  If so, please come back and let us know what kind of underwear you are buying these days.

[RockHardNYC]

I wrote a response to the thread entitled, "Got Scammed By A Fellow Escort - Need Advice!!!." When I went to post it, the thread got moved to The Sand Box. Apparently, Oz's brand of censorship is contingent on his mood or how many complaint emails he receives. Seems to me, his MO is not much different than the dreadful owner of the other site, whose name we dare not mention.

Since I don't know how this site works, or what the hell "Inclusion of threads is by invitation only" means, I may have wasted my time writing a response. I suppose I could respect the sticky and wait until 2017. But who knows what mood Oz will be in then?

I don't mean to disrespect the owner's lazy position on thwarting discussion of any kind, but like many escort-purchasing customers, I'm a stream-of-conscience thinker. If I have to edit my thoughts to NOT include words that are relevant to the other site, then why bother writing anything at all?

I realize this may push this thread to The Sand Box, or perhaps someone will delete my post entirely. I really don't care. I'm going to behave like a mature adult who questions the lunacy of certain authority figures. Here is my response to the above mentioned thread:

I don't have much to say about the battle of the queens, except for these disheartening words: As a result of the incessant regurgitation, I wouldn't throw a dollar bill at any of the escorts engaged in this ugly drama. Business 101: Ugly drama is a business KILLER! Stay as far away from it as you can.

From Steven Kesslar: "JD and I actually have a lot in common.  We bother suffer from verbal diarrhea."

And that really is too bad. The secret to controlling financial interests: self control.

From my perspective, the escort known as "JD" is damaged goods, seriously damaged, and he has his own mouth to blame. Perhaps he has loyal customers who can't live without his cock, but as far as growing his business, it's difficult to imagine any sane new customer, who Googles for research, wanting to hire him after reading one sentence of his poorly written, passive-aggressive gibberish. There are many fine, educated Black men out there, who know how to write, who know how to be sexy, and who want no part of DRAMA. The minute you show the public that you have no respect for the concept of DISCRETION, the gig is OVER.

Any escort who emulates "JD" with equal foaming at the mouth will only shoot himself in the foot by stooping to his level. I understand the desire, even the need, to set the record straight, but there's a smart way to do that without making yourself look as though you're as much "out of control" as JD is.

Here are some other random thoughts I have:

I have always believed that escorting should be made legal in the U.S. I support doing whatever is necessary to make that happen in our country, understanding the powerful obstacle that is religiosity.

I don't enjoy disappointing Steven Kesslar. I would never support the Rentboy Fund. On a personal note, I never liked the way that website treated its customers, especially the escorts. From an intellectual business perspective, I thought Jeffrey Hurant was a loser, and he deserved his fate. He flaunted his financial success in ways never seen before in this business. In doing so, he basically told the U.S. government to go fuck themselves, while his less-than-discreet behavior openly invited them to take a closer look at his business creation.

Jeffrey Hurant is solely responsible for the trouble he created. He did his employees and the escort community WRONG. He doesn't deserve our saving him. He's not the nice, thoughtful, innocent, or even generous guy that some people claim him to be. He's a selfish opportunist who failed, BIG TIME.

I have no kind words to say about deej. If Daddy dies and deej takes over, I can easily imagine a tidal wave of clicks coming Oz's way. However, on the subject of EOY, deej is right. He's on record for advising Daddy to end his silly ego-trip game, and Daddy ignored the smart advice. This is what you get when you play favorites. You find some escort to suck your cock and fuck you, while whispering sweet things in your ear, and then you use your sandbox power to give the desperate, unstable guy the attention he seeks.

In my opinion, the owner of the other site - whose name must never be mentioned - created this mess. He got what he asked for.

[RockHardNYC]

And here's just one more slight irritant for Oz:

Isn't it a tad ironic, not to mention utterly silly and obviously controlling, that there's a sticky "warning" entitled, "Discussions regarding the 'other site,'" on a Forum with the title, "The Hooboy General Pub?"

I vote the sticky be removed and free-thinking promoted. You can't learn how to grow by stifling conversation.

[TotallyOz]

flguy, I was going to say bite your tongue.

But, too late.

Rockhard, welcome and kiss my ass.

"Inclusion of threads is by invitation only" means simply that. That the threads in that forum are moved there by mods. Discussions can't be started there but are moved to that area when a mod feels they have gotten out of control. IMHO, not deleting them and allowing them to continue is pretty fucking good. But, I'm sure you will find a way to disagree with that as well.

Not sure what censorship you are referring to other than the Daddy shit.  After 10 hours of dealing with that shit in a few days, I took a break from it.  Fuck it.  I don't need to listen to drama at that site.  I never have and it does not interest me. I don't go there for that reason. But, I'll not spend hours a day dealing with emails and complaints all about Daddy or his site. Sorry, I have better things to do.

"I don't mean to disrespect the owner's lazy position on thwarting discussion of any kind"  LOL of course you do. That is what you do best and always have and always will.  My laziness and you dickness.  We will both never change I guess.

"Apparently, Oz's brand of censorship is contingent on his mood or how many complaint emails he receives. Seems to me, his MO is not much different than the dreadful owner of the other site, whose name we dare not mention." Really?  You don't see a difference?  If you don't, you are not the mature adult you claimed a few paragraphs later.

All that said, and your post still stands.  Pretty fucking uncensorlike if you ask me. How is that for not moving this thread?

And, even though we disagree on many things, unlike other sites, you are still welcome to post on this one as long as the rules are followed and we have very few of them. But, every place needs some in order to survive.

So, welcome! Post as much as you wish. Or, don't. But, don't blame me for censoring anything you said!

[RockHardNYC]

My sincere apologies to the readers. I don't yet know the software here. I may never learn it. In the meantime, if words appear gray, italicized, and in quotes, it means someone wrote them in previous posts.

"welcome and kiss my ass"

Thank you, Oz. I've seen you behave like an ass, but I've never actually seen your ass. If it looks kissable, I might consider the invite. I've always loved admiring men's asses.

"'Inclusion of threads is by invitation only' means simply that. That the threads in that forum are moved there by mods. Discussions can't be started there but are moved to that area when a mod feels they have gotten out of control."

It's poorly written. The writing is pretentious. Simply stating that "Discussions can't be started there" or that "members can no longer reply to threads in this forum" would get to the point faster and be a lot easier to understand.

"IMHO, not deleting them and allowing them to continue is pretty fucking good. But, I'm sure you will find a way to disagree with that as well."

Ha, ha. I don't disagree. You may think you know me, but you don't.

"Not sure what censorship you are referring to other than the Daddy shit.  After 10 hours of dealing with that shit in a few days, I took a break from it.  Fuck it.  I don't need to listen to drama at that site.  I never have and it does not interest me. I don't go there for that reason. But, I'll not spend hours a day dealing with emails and complaints all about Daddy or his site. Sorry, I have better things to do."

I would hope you have better things to do, for sure. No need to apologize about that. Taking a break is not the same thing as a formal "sticky," banning certain words, terms, or subject matter.

I remind you, you have history with the other site, and it's all well documented in many written words offered by you. You're entitled to change and alter your tolerance, but to say "I never have" is dishonest.

"I don't mean to disrespect the owner's lazy position on thwarting discussion of any kind"  LOL of course you do.

No I don't. Respect is earned. It isn't achieved by simply signing up to the site. I'm just not that foolhardy.

"That is what you do best and always have and always will."

What I do best is challenge ignorance, arrogance, stupid business decisions, and hypocritical thinking.

"Really?  You don't see a difference?"

Time will tell. I am an intelligent optimist with an open mind.

"All that said, and your post still stands.  Pretty fucking uncensorlike if you ask me. How is that for not moving this thread?"

So far so good. I'm paying attention and may continue contributing.

"And, even though we disagree on many things"

Then you must be a gifted Svengali. Or simply presumptuous. I don't know you at all. And I'm sure you don't know me. I have no idea what subjects or opinions we agree or disagree on.

"unlike other sites, you are still welcome to post on this one as long as the rules are followed"

I just broke a "rule," so I suppose there's wiggle room. In other words, the owners of these sites maintain the power to enforce their rules with personal discretion. I've been saying this for many years, but few owners wish to admit the truth. They seem to hate the word "arbitrary."

As far as I know, my IP address is not banned at the other site. I'm free to join there under a new name. Lord knows, many have gone through the same process, but I like my username. I could write the owner and ask that my username account be reinstated, but I doubt he would agree to that. I've written him privately on occasion, and it seems he doesn't appreciate my honest opinions, no matter how sincere the thought or effort.

"every place needs some (rules) in order to survive"

I agree with this. It's the execution of rules and order that tend to cause the most disruption. This is clearly evident in all aspects of society.

"So, welcome! Post as much as you wish. Or, don't. But, don't blame me for censoring anything you said!"

Thank you. I won't apply blame as long as none is deserved.

[Guest Larstrup]

1 hour ago, RockHardNYC said:

I don't yet know the software here. I may never learn it.

 

[RockHardNYC]

I firmly believe in great customer service, even when the service is so-called free. Ever since joining, I sure get enough spam asking me to elevate my membership to a paid level. Has anyone actually done that?

Given that most men interested in escorts are of a certain age, and may not be computer/software savvy or have the patience to learn one more user interface, otherwise known as UI, wouldn't it be great if websites like this offered a video to teach new members how to use and navigate the site?

There are thousands of how-to videos on YouTube teaching far less important minutia. You don't need a costly, high-end production to offer this simple service to users. Again, Oz missed a good opportunity here to illustrate he's a cut above the competition. It's so easy to claim you're different. The proof is always in the pudding or the devil is in the details. Pick your idiom.

[TotallyOz]

3 hours ago, RockHardNYC said:

wouldn't it be great if websites like this offered a video to teach new members how to use and navigate the site?
 

Great idea.  Thank you for offering!

[Suckrates]

 

 

[Suckrates]

 

I have NEVER been a Rockhard fan, and in fact butted heads with him more times than I can count.. He's a person that loves to grandstand and hear himself talk.    BUT, I must admit that I DO agree with much of what he says in his Kanye West-esque rant

here, especially with his point about site rules being bent by moderators to suit their whims, moods or favorites, and his point about putting equal blame on ALL the escorts involved in the EOY circus drama.  . 

 

[TotallyOz]

13 hours ago, Suckrates said:

here, especially with his point about site rules being bent by moderators to suit their whims, moods or favorites, and his point about putting equal blame on ALL the escorts involved in the EOY circus drama.  . 

 

IMHO, the mods on this site are pretty fucking fair. I can't tell you how many times I have been asked to ban you over the years.  I don't mean once or twice but at least 50 or more.  Yet, it did not happen because you did not break the rules. The same is true for many posters including RockHardNYC.  We won't just do things based on our mood for the day.  We try to carefully think things through and be fair. I know of at least 4 long term posts that left here because you post photo threads. When given a choice by them, I told them best of luck out there as we will not ban one poster just because another poster doesn't like their posts or their tone.  Not once have I ever regretted loosing them as I know the right decision was made.

The same with the poster you are now having issues with.  I don't take his side against yours at all.  I try not to take sides. But, as long as everyone plays by the very few rules we have, I try to stay out of it.  But, I did get so tired of dealing with shit about Daddy's site that I can't enjoy life so I decided to move all those threads to the Sandbox. Big fucking deal!  People can bitch and moan but the decision was made and I'll keep moving them until things quieten down. OK.  To be honest, I have always hated people getting pissed off with Daddy and coming on here to bitch about it.  I have never liked it but I usually do a good job of taking that deep down my throat and swallowing it.    I just had enough of the BS this week about Daddy.  I don't care about him. I don't care about his site. I don't care about the drams over there.  I don't care about any of it.  Not only do I not care, I don't want to waste my time with hearing about all of it. So, if I do have quirks, that is one of them.  I hope you can forgive me as I don't think I'll ever get over that quirk.

I say all this only to say that I don't play favorites.  I like everyone equally.  And, I value everyone who participates.  That includes you and Rockhard.  You have created some pretty fucking awesome threads.  I love the photo displays.  I really do. And, I know it is time consuming.  And, I do appreciate it! But, I wont delete threads or posters based on anyone asking me to do so.  If I feel they violate a rule, that is when I act.  But, if I banned everyone that pissed someone off, the only person left on this site would be Tomcal and Adam.  The rest of us bastards would be long gone!

[lookin]

1 hour ago, TotallyOz said:

. . . if I banned everyone that pissed someone off, the only person left on this site would be Tomcal and Adam.  The rest of us bastards would be long gone!

What did he say? . .        .   He won’t ban us though.

He says we piss people off.         That pisses me off.

[Lucky]

No, lookin has a lifetime membership here! He's one of the stalwarts of the site.

( I hope that he didn't read this!)

[Lucky]

Rock Hard has to be in the message board Hall of Fame. I often disagreed with him, and that ego can drive you away, but, at heart, I believe he sincerely wanted the messages boards to improve and be more fun.

[Suckrates]

11 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

IMHO, the mods on this site are pretty fucking fair. I can't tell you how many times I have been asked to ban you over the years.  I don't mean once or twice but at least 50 or more.  Yet, it did not happen because you did not break the rules. The same is true for many posters including RockHardNYC.  We won't just do things based on our mood for the day.  We try to carefully think things through and be fair. I know of at least 4 long term posts that left here because you post photo threads. When given a choice by them, I told them best of luck out there as we will not ban one poster just because another poster doesn't like their posts or their tone.  Not once have I ever regretted loosing them as I know the right decision was made.

The same with the poster you are now having issues with.  I don't take his side against yours at all.  I try not to take sides. But, as long as everyone plays by the very few rules we have, I try to stay out of it.  But, I did get so tired of dealing with shit about Daddy's site that I can't enjoy life so I decided to move all those threads to the Sandbox. Big fucking deal!  People can bitch and moan but the decision was made and I'll keep moving them until things quieten down. OK.  To be honest, I have always hated people getting pissed off with Daddy and coming on here to bitch about it.  I have never liked it but I usually do a good job of taking that deep down my throat and swallowing it.    I just had enough of the BS this week about Daddy.  I don't care about him. I don't care about his site. I don't care about the drams over there.  I don't care about any of it.  Not only do I not care, I don't want to waste my time with hearing about all of it. So, if I do have quirks, that is one of them.  I hope you can forgive me as I don't think I'll ever get over that quirk.

I say all this only to say that I don't play favorites.  I like everyone equally.  And, I value everyone who participates.  That includes you and Rockhard.  You have created some pretty fucking awesome threads.  I love the photo displays.  I really do. And, I know it is time consuming.  And, I do appreciate it! But, I wont delete threads or posters based on anyone asking me to do so.  If I feel they violate a rule, that is when I act.  But, if I banned everyone that pissed someone off, the only person left on this site would be Tomcal and Adam.  The rest of us bastards would be long gone!

 

First of all Mr OZ, dont get your panties in a twist.   If you read my original post, you will see that the sentence broke in the wrong spot , and then you quickly jumped on it and interpreted it as I was speaking about mod unfairness "here"  when the "here" actually belonged to the  Rockhard's rant part of the paragraph.  Go re-read the post, and THEN you can apologize to me.

In all honesty, I dont believe you or ANYONE can like everyone equally.  It sounds good to say, but its never a truthful statement.  We all have favorites, and thats OK, except when you are running a public site. Then it gets sticky if your favoritism becomes obvious.   

People have agendas, as we have clearly seen with all the ranting posts from a slew of escorts.  Agendas for the good of the masses I would encourage.  However recent agendas are only self-serving and should not be allowed in any way, shape or form.   MY own personal agenda here has always been ONLY to increase participation.  I always hope something I post, whether hot and sexy or controversial will promote Discussion.  It's very lonely posting to yourself... And I love feedback.  but I would never expect or want you to compromise yourself or the site to keep me here if you were pressured to Ban me, whetehr I broke a rule or not.   

I dont know Tomcal, but I do know Adam.  He's an attention seeking whore, a douche, He always pisses me off !  BUT he also always inspires ME.  You just gotta love a guy that loves a hot chick with a dick !    My LOVE to Adam always... 

[Guest Larstrup]

5 hours ago, Lucky said:

Rock Hard has to be in the message board Hall of Fame. I often disagreed with him, and that ego can drive you away, but, at heart, I believe he sincerely wanted the messages boards to improve and be more fun.

"Since our favorite important New Yorker had chosen the uppity restaurant Daniel on the snooty East Side, I was worried that he wouldn't pick up the bill, but he did, and I was glad that I met the famous Hooville blow hard. In person, he is nothing like his Hooville character. I found him to be charming, witty, and a gracious host. He did indeed know several people at the restaurant, especially a busboy who he kept smiling at. Chef Daniel came to our table, and I was at first impressed that Rock Hard knew him, but it turned out that the chef was going around to all of the tables.

I would like to have tried one of the famous deserts, but I didn't want to run the bill up since Rock Hard admitted that he was "in between jobs." But, I was surprised that he had the balls to show up, and I indeed had a good laugh over a lot of the humorous subjects that arose. He doesn't really hate deej, admitting that it was just part of the persona. And I was flattered that he chose to meet with me as his first Hooville invite. Next time lunch will be on me.

P.S.- In case you are wondering, Rock Hard once mentioned that he wore a size 38, but I got a quick look at his Levi 501's and the size was a little higher, but nothing in the Richard Griffiths category. But, jeans at Daniel???"

 

Lunch With Rockhard

[TotallyOz]

11 hours ago, Suckrates said:

First of all Mr OZ, dont get your panties in a twist.  

My panties in a twist?  Are you fucking kidding me?  My panties never get twisted or in a wad. Jeeze. I am so tired of all this shit, I am now closing this thread, closing the site for 2 weeks and starting a Give to Oz's Panties Party Fund!  If I raise 5000 USD before they are untwisted, I'll reopen the thread, the site and my panties.

Until then.....

[TotallyOz]

On 8/31/2016 at 1:10 AM, RockHardNYC said:

I firmly believe in great customer service,

Me too!  You are from NYC.  I though I said Welcome Asshole! Isn't that what they say in NYC? I was only trying to make you feel welcome.  I hope that really came across in my first response.

[citylaw1]

I always liked RockHard's posts.  I just realized how much I've missed him. 

[citylaw1]

I can't believe that 50 or more people took their time to request that Suckrates be banned.  It makes me feel like a loser participating here, where there are 50 (which means 10 times that really, at least) posters that advocate for this.   We openly discuss licking assholes, but a poorly written argument between anonymous posters becomes a source of discontent, and drives men to author emails for banishment -  from men that hire strangers, welcome them to their home or hotel, fuck them, and then recite their experiences here?   How can these same men be so bothered or put off by "drama?"  SMH, as the kids say. 

[RockHardNYC]

I appreciate the well wishers and the private messages. It's interesting how most of us are strangers, yet for some of us, there's a kinship.

"Rock Hard has to be in the message board Hall of Fame."

No special accolades necessary, thank you. It's good to see you, Lucky! I firmly believe in the business of escorting for gay men, and I truly wish the business and its more professional members could get the respect they deserve.

"I often disagreed with him"

Good. Past tense. That means you agree with me on everything now.

"that ego can drive you away"

Perhaps you mean alter-ego. No one in my non-forum life would ever accuse me of having a "drive you away" ego.

"I believe he sincerely wanted the messages boards to improve and be more fun."

I did. But I pushed Daddy too far in that quest. I had my reasons, and I'm without regret or contempt. I've never been, nor will I ever be, addicted to technology.

"You are from NYC."

You see, I am correct. You don't know me. I moved to NYC after college. I was not born here. 30+ years of residency makes me a tax-paying New Yorker, but it does not make me a native. I've also owned homes in West Hollywood, Chicago, and East Hampton. I'm currently looking at a property in Italy.

 "I though(t) I said Welcome Asshole! Isn't that what they say in NYC?"

Only ignorant assholes talk like that. I enjoy licking a clean asshole, but I am not one.

[AdamSmith]

11 minutes ago, RockHardNYC said:

I'm currently looking at a property in Italy.

Very glad to see you back here.

[Suckrates]

13 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

My panties in a twist?  Are you fucking kidding me?  My panties never get twisted or in a wad. Jeeze. I am so tired of all this shit, I am now closing this thread, closing the site for 2 weeks and starting a Give to Oz's Panties Party Fund!  If I raise 5000 USD before they are untwisted, I'll reopen the thread, the site and my panties.

Until then.....

Hmmmm, a vacation from this site sounds like a great idea.  It sure would give me alot of Free time to focus on other things besides cock pics...   And listen up OZ,  dont step on my turf.  I've already requested that Ms Ann start a GoFundMe page to help me replace all my "fuck me heels" a thief recently got when he broke in,  (well actually he was a hustler I let in), and the insurance company refuses to pay for....  But since alot of the members are busy contributing to the medical hardship pleas of OTHER members, my heels are unimportant to those guys.  

How gullible can people be to support a GoFundMe page for a person who bragged about constant hires and spending anywhere from $300 and up per session, and dropping big bucks on rentboys at certain Palm Springs soiree's, yet cries they have no money to pay their rent and need financial help since they cant work presently.    NOW, I am alot of things, but I aint stupid and would NEVER give a single penny to these people.  I would say "FUCK YOU",   maybe you should stop spending your money on cock and consider saving it for medical emergencies and RENT , and stop depending on Big hearted, naive people to bail your selfish asses out ?     Now, let me go log into Shoe Dazzle.com and find me some new size 14 heels.    

[Suckrates]

13 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

My panties in a twist?  Are you fucking kidding me?  My panties never get twisted or in a wad. Jeeze. I am so tired of all this shit, I am now closing this thread, closing the site for 2 weeks and starting a Give to Oz's Panties Party Fund!  If I raise 5000 USD before they are untwisted, I'll reopen the thread, the site and my panties.

Until then.....

 

And as a way of offering you up an Olive branch, may I give you THIS  (although I know he's not Asian, perhaps you can still make use of him)  ?

 

 

[Guest Larstrup]

On 9/1/2016 at 7:06 PM, Suckrates said:

How gullible can people be to support a GoFundMe page for a person who bragged about constant hires and spending anywhere from $300 and up per session, and dropping big bucks on rentboys at certain Palm Springs soiree's, yet cries they have no money to pay their rent and need financial help since they cant work presently.

 I would say "FUCK YOU",     

I don't think Gullibility has anything to do with the kind and decent outreach which people are demonstrating by contributing to this fund. These are obviously kind and compassionate people who many, have spent personal time with these men, know these men and choose to support them in this difficult time because they care about them. Judging a person by their occasional hiring habits, which may or may not be completely known to you, when they are involved in a serious medical crisis is like judging a person for buying too many shoes and then experiencing the same unexpected medical crisis. 

Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands and likely much more than that, are just an unexpected ICU hospitalization away from serious financial hardship if not ruin. Even with basic insurance.

The best of our humanity seems to step to the front of the line when people are in serious medical need or have been victims of unexpected heinous crimes. Many, simply by anonymous donations because they care.

Judging people, and those who care about those people when their sick is just simply unkind.