Recent Trip Brazil - First Timer Perspective

[Peter803]

Have gained so much knowledge from members of this forum, so I'd like to share my experience in Brazil from a first timer's perspective, hoping my experience will provide a bit insight for other novice travelers. (Disclaimer: my experience is limited and i don't speak Portuguese, so take it with a grain of salt - )

Currency exchange - ATM fees are high and withdraw limit is low. At some places I felt comfortable using credit cards, and carried cash, both methods got me the best exchange rate, at least 8% more than any ATMs.

Power outlet - US plug won't work 99% of the places and I had to buy a power outlet converter.

Language barrier - for sure having knowledge of Portuguese is a major advantage. However without did not impede major activities for me. I bought a couple of offline translator apps but never got a chance to use them. Google Translate app did the job even with 3G connection. Only drawback is Google sometimes get the voice wrong or mess up a complicated sentence. But for most communication, it worked.

Transportation - Used radio taxi, regular taxi, uber and metro. Uber is by far the safest, especial for foreigner without Portuguese skills, fast, friendly and affordable. I had such a good conversation with a cute friendly 26 years old driver, I even got his number and email with the intention to hire him as my driver/guide.

Safety - all advices given by those experienced travelers on safety are good and should be followed. I personally felt it's safer than I expected at where I stayed. I saw a lot of restaurants open and people walking around in groups or family with kids after 11pm at Jardim area at São Paulo. Even at downtown Rio, after 8pm, there's still a lot of people waiting buses, including single female. As foreigner with limited Portuguese, sure need to be much more cautious than locals.

Therma Lagoa - São Paulo, Saturday night packed, probably 100 guys. I would consider half of them attractive with nice body, 10% my type. 70% muscular or athletic build, rest skinny twinks. Maybe 30% Spaniard looking, 50% mixed to a degree and rest African looking. Among the 5 people I talked to, 2 self identified as gay, 2 top only, 1 is pretty effeminate. All started with R$150, 3 would take 100 when I countered. One of the top guys agreed to bottom, however he was way too tight and made the I'm hurt faces and noises, so ended up doing nothing. The guy kept asking whether I'd pay him in US dollars as he liked it better and kept asking for tips. He ended up with no tips and only Brazilian Real. Other encounters were smooth. I was expecting to be approached from the guys, to my surprise, I had to take the initiatives half of the time even after eye contacts. The place is clean, and there's a sauna employee outside helping customers getting taxi and feel very safe at night.

It was much slower Sunday with maybe 20/30 guys, all from Saturday. Talked to a couple of guys and they all started with R$100 (supply and demand rules) and one even offered to do everything.

Thermas Fragata- the facility is older and probably needs updates. Guys are more twinks and African looking Brazilians. It was busier than Logoa on Sunday.

Monday - Meio Mundos - Rio, pretty busy with 40 or so guys when I got there around 630, and quite a few more checking in when I left around 7. Most guys there were African looking Brazilians with nice body and big dicks. Could be a heaven for size queens. I didn't like the locker I was assigned to as it felt like it could be easily broken in or manipulated, and they wouldn't give me a new one, so I walked for 20 minutes fully clothed and decided to leave. The entrance area is brightly lit, Maybe added by the owner as most street lights around are much dimmer, feels safer.

Tuesday-Club 117. Pretty busy with 80 or so guys, similar to Logoa in terms of looks and body types, maybe slightly older garotos. Guys here are more aggressive than Logoa, but will walk away after a nao. 2 guys who claimed to be versatile couldn't perform as bottoms. I kind of think they say that to get customers and know customers will give up/in eventually. 3rd guy I talked to is my type and active only, I really like him, so we agreed on a price for a little bit foreplay. After we did it for 2 minutes, he said time's up for a little bit foreplay. He pointed to the word a little bit that we agreed on when I questioned. So I ended up paying 100 for 2 minutes. Thought it'd last 15 min at least from experience with other guys, guess I set myself up to be ripped off by using ambiguous words. After that, there are 3 things I always want to be clear: how long, how much and what. 4th guy was really sweet and had a wonderful time.

Friday - club 117. Slightly busier than Tuesday, some new faces.

Saturday - club 117. Less busy than Tuesday. Pretty much the same crowd.

100 is generally the asking price in Rio. I do tip for people who try to provide good service to show my appreciation. But I stopped buying them drinks as I noticed the moment I offered the first guy, all guys asked me for drinks.

I'd say, for a first timer foreigner speaking no Portugese, 50% try to impress and are sweet, 25% do not try or do not deliver what they said, 25% will rip you off whenever they can. I bet things are better for regulars and Brazilians. Using a translator app might hurt, but I tried to keep it simple and short to avoid miscommunication or to offend them.

In general, it feels like a buffet, you have a lot of options, can dab into different types for a quick 15 to 20 minutes encounter, and share the same dish with other customers. It won't feel like a exquisite dinner at a nice restaurant for a full hour. Maybe next time will try online ones and see how that goes. For the huge population of Rio and São Paulo area, seems like the garotos population is not that much higher than comparable cities in population like NYC or LA metro area.

[PopeFrancis]

Porto Alegre 2015

I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.

It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.

At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.

Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...

All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.

One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.

All the guys sucked without condoms.

All the guys fucked with condoms.

The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.

I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.

Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.

With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.

I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!

I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.

We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!

I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.

I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel

Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.

And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.

Everyone asked for 100 RS

I probably would have asked for more!

Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.

[Peter803]

Porto Alegre seems to have better chance of fun from your description.

[Ojibear]

Sounds like a wild time.

[Peter803]

How much did you pay to bring them to hotel?

Porto Alegre 2015

I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel

Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.

Everyone asked for 100 RS

I probably would have asked for more!

Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.

[TotallyOz]

Great! Detailed reports. Thank you.

[PopeFrancis]

How much did you pay to bring them to hotel?

One guy came back to the hotel for an hour - 100R$

One guy asked for 400R$ for the night

And I think I gave another one 600R$ for a night

Hotel insisted on taking their identity card details at reception...

...that said... if you're on a budget, I'd stick to the saunas ....there's only so much google-translating you can do with a 22 year old... and only so many Brazilian rapper music videos you can tolerate when you've mistakenly asked "Que tipo de musica voce gosta?"...

[Ojibear]

Porto Alegre 2015

I went to Porto Alegre at the end of 2015.

It was my first time on the sauna scene - but I was familiar with the city / had a hire car / and know my way around... and I'd been reading this forum in the run up to my arrival.

At Mezzaninu, I also had the problem of attracting attention! Having read this forum, I was expecting to be inundated with guys... But I, stupidly, maintained my usual "ice queen" attitude and they all stayed away!!! Eventually I was approached by a bearded Uruguayan guy in the sauna itself. He spoke some English, said he toured round SP, RDJ and POA saunas and offered to bottom for 100 RS. Given my desperation, we went to it. He sucked with a condom. And managed to bottom. I hated the beard.

Spurred on by Tomcal's exploits... and not knowing whether I'd ever get the chance to do this again... in the following days I just went for it...

All the guys who said they'd bottom managed to bottom.

One guy really tried so hard to bottom but it was clearly really painful for him so I felt it best to stop.

All the guys sucked without condoms.

All the guys fucked with condoms.

The guys shower and shower and shower... so you get the impression if there were any infections anywhere, they'd be soaped to death. I caught nothing.

I never felt anyone was watching the clock or trying to bring things to a premature end.

Usually at the end you'd lie on the bed and do some google translating.

With the Tomcal stories in my head... I did the threesome... which was much more enjoyable since it seemed a lot more fun... the guys laughing, joking around and perhaps feeling more confident.

I tried a foursome... though getting up from the table with three guys to head off to a room during some drag queen calling bingo numbers was probably not my best idea as she started shouting at me calling me names - the guys found it funny... The foursome was probably not a great idea... too much going on... and too many people waiting for direction!

I stuck up a bit of a relationship with one of the guys (google translate)... went to bars, went to dinner... and when he was at the sauna, he'd direct anyone who was my type towards me.

We actually got on really well... and he was making some effort to speak English (which he'd learned from video games!)... so when I'd done too much, I paid for him to go with a couple of lads he liked. He chose two guys he'd always fancied - one was an absolutely stunning top (whose wife thought he was just waitering at the sauna)... and we ended up in a sort of threesome... though to be fair I wasn't that interested in him... and allowed the top to grind my friend into the bed. I know some might think... What were you paying for that for?... but to be fair, it was fun... and fun listening to the guy tell me how he'd always fantasized for months about the straight guy!

I paid for a top-only guy as well... for, I guess, "foreplay"... and again I didn't feel cheated... lots and lots of kissing and sucking... and google translating.

I picked up guys at the after club - Bar Mix... usually go go dancers who were happy to come back to my hotel

Then I'd drive to the after-after- club - Sexy Vicio - which is an absolute horrific dive near the bus station (a terrible area at night)... populated, I think, only by rentboys. Here one of the Bar Mix dancers would point guys in my direction... and we'd slink off to motels or back to my hotel.

And it was here - Sexy Vicio - where someone offered TO PAY ME FOR SEX!!! And chased me round the club trying to get me to agree! Unbelievable.

Everyone asked for 100 RS

I probably would have asked for more!

Porto Alegre - great guys! - and probably a smaller population of guys so scammers find it harder to survive.

LMAO! "ice queen" ... it's so true. My Toronto friends call it "s&m" - standing and modelling.

The garotos are dying to meet you, all you have to do is smile and nod at one you like and they'll zoom right over!