Members mvan1 Posted December 26, 2015 Members Posted December 26, 2015 - Two days ago, this article appeared: http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/news&id=363401011 I personally knew three different Americans who were killed (murdered) by hustlers (escorts). One was an American friend who lived in the U.S. and two were Americans who often visited the saunas in Brazil and were killed by garotos they took back to their hotels. Now we have this case of an American doctor who got strangled by a hustler he met. Of course, there have been many gays killed while pursuing our hobby. A gay killing does not usually get much priority. However, in the case of this doctor, the hotel surveillance tapes and other items left behind by the killer helped identify and locate him. There are other articles about this case but the case cited above is enough as a wake-up call to us. Be careful guys. Too often we don't even think about this possibility. But, it exists. - Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Is this really a surprise? The numbers are small but shit happens. What can you do? More specifically: In this case, what would you have had the doctor do to "be careful"? Quote
Members Suckrates Posted December 26, 2015 Members Posted December 26, 2015 Hey, you can be standing on the subway platform and pushed to your death, or maimed by a knife-wielding psychopath who didnt take their meds... Caution should always be taken in ANY situation, but Grandma believes, "when it's your time, it's your time"..... Quote
Members mvan1 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Members Posted December 26, 2015 Is this really a surprise? The numbers are small but shit happens. What can you do? More specifically: In this case, what would you have had the doctor do to "be careful"? Interesting response! You are correct. The numbers (instances of this sort) are small (fortunately). “What can you do?” We can be more selective about whom we bring back to our hotel rooms or homes. As I said in the title, reporting this event was intended as a “wake up” call. My report was for those of us who hire not previously vetted escorts and/or who bring those escorts to our hotels or to our homes. Even though this incident occurred in the U.S., gay/hustler killings are more common in Brazil. Therefore, reporting this event in the South American section of the forum would have been more appropriate. In Brazil, there is a group of Americans frequently visiting Brazilian saunas and hiring rent-boys. Most of the intimate activities between the Americans and the rent-boys occur within the saunas. Keeping such activities within the sauna is without danger. However, many of us who spend a lot of time in Brazil become comfortable with rent boys. We often invite them to interact outside the saunas. Although this is generally safe and exciting, there is danger associated with it. I have done this for many years. In my opening portion of this thread, I reported that I personally knew two Americans who had been killed in Brazil by rent boys they took back to their hotels. The incident was and is a wake up call (and reminder) to me and I hope it is to others. Quote
AdamSmith Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Having picked up the occasional ex-Rikers Island type, my only trick was to rig it so I was worth more to them alive than dead. So far, so good! MsAnn 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Members Posted December 26, 2015 Having picked up the occasional ex-Rikers Island type, my only trick was to rig it so I was worth more to them alive than dead. So far, so good! Funny! - Quote
Members Suckrates Posted December 26, 2015 Members Posted December 26, 2015 mvan, no matter how WELL you think you know a person, or how well you have vetted them, if they have bad intentions in their mind or hearts you are At Risk.... An escort might be "well reviewed" but that doesnt mean you cant be the one person he flips out on. Caution, YES, but as Adam as stated, things do happen. Just like the term "freak accident", you can never really know when you are in harms way..... Sure, if he is wearing a Jason Voorhees mask or Freddy Kreuger claws, you probably wont make it out alive, but even a well dressed, well mannered hunk can turn killer..... Noone here is trying to undermine or diminsh your "wake-up call", we are just putting out a different perspective on it ! Quote
Members boiworship Posted December 28, 2015 Members Posted December 28, 2015 Quite sobering. I stick with regulars, though my activity has diminished over the past year. Quote
Members tassojunior Posted December 28, 2015 Members Posted December 28, 2015 Back in August I posted about a Craigslist murder in my neighborhood by a black woman posing as a white escort just to rob and murder. The victim was a very good looking young married (to a woman) lawyer. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/dc-lawyers-killer-sentenced-to-24-years-in-prison/2015/08/21/e699d578-47f3-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html Unfortunately there have been several similar on-line gay sex murders around here. Never have someone you've never met come directly to your home or hotel room. Meet first outside or close-by in public. Try to get recommendations here or from others. The look of the murderer here is more than an hint of rough trade. If that's your thing take extra precautions like easy-to-access alarms and some hidden surplus cash. Quote
Members boiworship Posted January 1, 2016 Members Posted January 1, 2016 I've been very lucky so far. Quote
Members RA1 Posted January 1, 2016 Members Posted January 1, 2016 Luck always counts but I hate to depend entirely upon it. As the saying goes, there are no old, bold pilots. The premise being a person can be one or the other but not both. Perhaps hirers can make similar choices. Best regards, RA1 BTW- I have always been worth more dead than alive but that is to the beneficiary on a life insurance policy. Quote
