Members mvan1 Posted July 31, 2015 Members Posted July 31, 2015 That son of a bitch American dentist who went to Africa and had some locals lure a protected lion from its safe haven so he could kill it, is really feeling the heat. His dental practice is now closed from the negative publicity and he faces possible extradition for unlawfully killing the lion. Even after the dentist mortally wounded the lion with a cross bow, the lion did not die until 40 hours later when someone decided to end the lion's life with a bullet. The dentist then posed (with a friend) in front of the dead lion for a photograph. That same dentist was once charged in a U.S. court for unlawfully lying to a federal officer in connection with the dentist unlawfully killing a different protect animal. More than 500,000 signatures have already been obtained in favor of having the dentist sent back to answer the charges. I would like to add my name as well. For those who like animals and are disturbed over what the dentist did (unlawfully luring out the lion to kill it), here is an article released today that tells most of the details of what the dentist did. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dentist-lion-killing-zimbabwe/2015/07/30/id/659598/?ns_mail_uid=37292477&ns_mail_job=1629734_07302015&s=al&dkt_nbr=duu1y174 I am in agreement with the late famous philosopher, Arthur Schopenhauer, when he stated, “Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man.” jgoo and TotallyOz 2 Quote
Guest tomcal Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Mvan, I put a link to the article on my facebook page when it came out, I hope he loses everything so he can't afford to pay $50,000. or more to hunt anything else again! the sad part is there are 6 cubs that will probably be killed as a rival male will now take over his pride and lions practice infanticide so the the lioness' will come back into estreus so they can sire new cubs and that happens within a month of losing their cubs. I am originally from Minnesota and my family owned a hunting and fishing resort, so I understand hunting and the mentality behind it...my birthday present when I was 12 was a 12 guage shotgun! they thought I was the worse shot, because I never hit anything, actually I was good, ii just can't kill anything! but we ate everything we hunted and no one ever shot something just for the trophy aspect of it. Quote
Members jgoo Posted July 31, 2015 Members Posted July 31, 2015 Curious as to the possible sentence and fine he is facing if he is extradited and convicted. I haven't found anything on line that indicates what it might be. I hope it is pretty hefty fine and an appropriate time behind bars. Hunting for survival/food is understandable but I just can't grasp the whole hunting for trophy. It really turns my stomach to see the pictures of this guy smiling over various of his "kills". Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 31, 2015 Members Posted July 31, 2015 I quit hunting 40 years ago (even though I always ate what I killed) because of personal reasons. Killing for the sake of killing is against everything that I hold true. This guy deserves to be penalized. However, with all the serious problems we face as a nation and as a world this does not deserve the media attention or public outcry it is receiving. Best regards, RA1 JKane 1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 However, with all the serious problems we face as a nation and as a world this does not deserve the media attention or public outcry it is receiving. Agree absolutely. The commentariat and public opinion fasten on this one guy and overlook that he is just a tiny illustration of the larger lesson about humankind's predation on everything. I posted this before: Earth has lost half of its wildlife in the past 40 years, says WWF Species across land, rivers and seas decimated as humans kill for food in unsustainable numbers and destroy habitats http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/29/earth-lost-50-wildlife-in-40-years-wwf MsAnn, JKane and lookin 3 Quote
Members MsGuy Posted July 31, 2015 Members Posted July 31, 2015 Daesh (ISIS) tosses queers off rooftops and posts pro quality videos. Dentist shoots a lion and posts snapshot. Which causes media hoorah and internet meltdown? Dentist should have gone hunting Arab queers, I guess. Cheaper too. Don't need a US$50,000 game tag for that. AdamSmith and MsAnn 2 Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 31, 2015 Members Posted July 31, 2015 MsGuy- You cannot have it both ways. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted August 7, 2015 Author Members Posted August 7, 2015 A little more in connection with the character of the dentist who unlawfully killed the lion: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3180304/Karma-b-h-Woman-sexually-harassed-dentist-killed-Cecil-lion-speaks-vilified-world.html It seems the dentist had to pay a former employee $127,500.00 for sexual harassment. The employee worked for the dentist for six years. The dentist is now in hiding and has closed his dental office. This dentist is a class act. He has convictions for prior unlawful hunts. Several of his patients were interviewed. They said that the dentist is greedy and often asks for payment in advance of the work being done. Hmmm - asking for payment in advance - isn't that what some escorts do? Quote
Members RA1 Posted August 7, 2015 Members Posted August 7, 2015 By class act I suppose you mean Class C felon? Best regards, RA1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted August 7, 2015 Author Members Posted August 7, 2015 By class act I suppose you mean Class C felon? Best regards, RA1 The phrase, "Class Act" has nothing to do with the law. The phrase can either be complimentary or derogatory, depending on the circumstances. In the case of the dentist, given the bad press about his killing the lion, the phrase was not complimentary. Here is an example taken from the internet showing examples of the phrase, Class Act: The phrase a class act, in a strict sense indeed means that the performer/artist put on an exceptionally good show. However, nowadays I'd say its used whenever somebody does something memorable. Regardless of it being particularly good. If Keith Moon were still alive today, and he'd drive 3 rolls royce's into a public swimming pool dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl, that's exceptionally mad, even for him. So it'd be another Keith-Moon style class act. A class act can also be used to indicate irony or sarcasm. Sort of like saying: Your drunken singing in the underground was a real class act. Quote
Members RA1 Posted August 8, 2015 Members Posted August 8, 2015 I think I know the various colloquial definitions of "class act". As a point of irony I was merely extending my thoughts into legal classifications (which apparently do have a bearing on this whole affair). But, thanks for your reply. Best regards, RA1 Quote