TotallyOz Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I lost touch with him years ago but he is still on my mind often. LOL Does anyone know if he still works? axiom2001 and floridarob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy81 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 He looks 12...so you have a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 He looks 12...so you have a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting LOL He was 21 at the time. But, I see you not a good judge of age. Also, if you know 117, you would know they don't let under 18 in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 14, 2015 Members Share Posted July 14, 2015 He looks 12...so you have a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting Guessing an age of 12 from one photo then concluding that the poster has "a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting" is a little over the top, in my opinion. The ONE photo of the guy clearly shows an Adam's Apple in his neck. I don't know of any 12 year old that has such a large Adam's Apple. Also, his hands, in the photo, are clearly the hands of a man. Furthermore, the garoto would not have been allowed to work in the sauna if he were underage. The sauna owners are very careful checking identification and each sauna owner/employee photocopies the RG (identification) and maintains a copy of it in the offices of the sauna. I have seen the garoto (shown in the photo) from time-to-time in Brazil, a long time ago, somewhere during 2003 - 2005. He was approximately age 20 in the photo. There is a good probability that the garoto has moved on to a different line of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 I have seen the garoto (shown in the photo) from time-to-time in Brazil, a long time ago, somewhere during 2003 - 2005. He was approximately age 20 in the photo. There is a good probability that the garoto has moved on to a different line of work. Yeah, that was about the time I guess. It was back in the early 2002-2006. He stayed with me for several weeks at The Intercontinental Hotel and I had a great time with him. He was sweet but there was zero communication as neither of us spoke the other language. The hotel concierge was great and interpreted for us on a daily basis and I had friends in NYC who I would call and we would both speak to them and they would interpret. It was very hard to communicate that way but I did have fun with him. I took him to Carnival a year or two later. He had a blast there as well. mvan1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy81 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 LOL He was 21 at the time. But, I see you not a good judge of age. Also, if you know 117, you would know they don't let under 18 in. There pic STILL looks extemely YOUNG regardless of his age....And I stand by my YOU must like very young boys comment... I get it, I hit a nerve.... There is a saying that you can take to your grave..."two tears in a bucket, motherfuckit!!!" Cheers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy81 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Guessing an age of 12 from one photo then concluding that the poster has "a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting" is a little over the top, in my opinion. The ONE photo of the guy clearly shows an Adam's Apple in his neck. I don't know of any 12 year old that has such a large Adam's Apple. Also, his hands, in the photo, are clearly the hands of a man. Furthermore, the garoto would not have been allowed to work in the sauna if he were underage. The sauna owners are very careful checking identification and each sauna owner/employee photocopies the RG (identification) and maintains a copy of it in the offices of the sauna. I have seen the garoto (shown in the photo) from time-to-time in Brazil, a long time ago, somewhere during 2003 - 2005. He was approximately age 20 in the photo. There is a good probability that the garoto has moved on to a different line of work. If you quoted my text, you should have read it AGAIN and AGAIN to make sure you were reading correctly...I SAID, he looks 12... The kid looks very young....And judging by your feedback, I would suspect that you do not look equally as young so that may make an awkward outing OUTSIDE of the sauna.... The photo you chose to post looks like an extremely young boy.... Cheers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TotallyOz Posted July 14, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2015 There pic STILL looks extemely YOUNG regardless of his age....And I stand by my YOU must like very young boys comment... I get it, I hit a nerve.... There is a saying that you can take to your grave..."two tears in a bucket, motherfuckit!!!" Cheers.... Nah. It must be your age and lack of good eyesight to think he LOOKS 12. And, then to take your assumption and state that I must like young boys only means that either you have something against me or you are just a fool. In either case, you have the right to your opinion and I have mine. I never get upset when people say stupid shit. But, I have always found it interesting that people have such distain for what other consenting adults like or do. Here you are going to a sauna to have sex with boys (or older men) you find attractive but when someone else does it that doesn’t like what you like in a guy, you start throwing out insults. I have found this for years when someone says they don’t like feminine guys or drag queens or bears or whatever. To me, as long as it is 2 consenting adults, I don’t care what they like or what they do. I do find it interesting when others take issue with these things. I have never really understood it myself. I mean, heck, I thought you were traveling to Brazil to engage hookers for sexual gratification. To me, that is OK. I have no issue with it. I have seen all too often on these forums guys say they hate the Brazilian guys for this reason or the Thailand guys for another reason or feminine guys for this reason and so on. In the end, if you are happy with your decision and someone else does something that you see as not your thing, that is OK. But, in the end, you only do yourself a dis-justice as eventually someone will come knocking and say,”hey, all those sauna boys are being taken advantage of and we need to stop that.” That will never be me as I believe prostitution should be legal everywhere. But, I think sad when someone starts to rag on another person for doing something (or anything) with another adult. AdamSmith, MsGuy, boiworship and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 14, 2015 Members Share Posted July 14, 2015 If you quoted my text, you should have read it AGAIN and AGAIN to make sure you were reading correctly...I SAID, he looks 12... The kid looks very young....And judging by your feedback, I would suspect that you do not look equally as young so that may make an awkward outing OUTSIDE of the sauna.... The photo you chose to post looks like an extremely young boy.... Cheers..... Although it is obvious that the garoto is a grown man in the photo, I have no problem with your opinion that the garoto looks 12. It is the other inappropriate comment you made where you wrote that the poster had "a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting" Your next paragraph does not seem to make sense given the fact that I have never met you nor do I know you. You wrote about an alleged or supposed “awkward outing” in your sentence “And judging by your feedback, I would suspect that you do not look equally as young so that may make an awkward outing OUTSIDE of the sauna....” I have no “awkward outings” when I am in the company of Brazilian garotos, do you? The foregoing sentence you wrote indicates that you have a prejudice against older men visiting Brazil and their company with garotos. A day will come when you are no longer a 28 year old, as you claim to be. Finally, your advice to me “ - read it AGAIN and AGAIN to make sure you were reading correctly.” is something I suggest you do. I can only speculate why you wrote the following: “The photo you chose to post looks like an extremely young boy....” I posted no photo to this forum. The photo was posted by a different forum member in a different post. I cannot imagine what caused you to arrive at that erroneous conclusion. Brazil is for fun. Turn off the hostility and judgement of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 14, 2015 Members Share Posted July 14, 2015 Nah. It must be your age and lack of good eyesight to think he LOOKS 12. And, then to take your assumption and state that I must like young boys only means that either you have something against me or you are just a fool. In either case, you have the right to your opinion and I have mine. I never get upset when people say stupid shit. But, I have always found it interesting that people have such distain for what other consenting adults like or do. Here you are going to a sauna to have sex with boys (or older men) you find attractive but when someone else does it that doesn’t like what you like in a guy, you start throwing out insults. I have found this for years when someone says they don’t like feminine guys or drag queens or bears or whatever. To me, as long as it is 2 consenting adults, I don’t care what they like or what they do. I do find it interesting when others take issue with these things. I have never really understood it myself. I mean, heck, I thought you were traveling to Brazil to engage hookers for sexual gratification. To me, that is OK. I have no issue with it. I have seen all too often on these forums guys say they hate the Brazilian guys for this reason or the Thailand guys for another reason or feminine guys for this reason and so on. In the end, if you are happy with your decision and someone else does something that you see as not your thing, that is OK. But, in the end, you only do yourself a dis-justice as eventually someone will come knocking and say,”hey, all those sauna boys are being taken advantage of and we need to stop that.” That will never be me as I believe prostitution should be legal everywhere. But, I think sad when someone starts to rag on another person for doing something (or anything) with another adult. What an excellent piece of writing. How articulate. How thought provoking and thoughtful, in itself. MsGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SolaceSoul Posted July 14, 2015 Members Share Posted July 14, 2015 He looks 12...so you have a thing for YOUNG boys....very young boys.....Interesting In those two photos above, the kid does look young. NOT 12, but not quite of adult age. I would've guessed 16. But if he is of legal age, then all is OK. He is what is referred to in the porn market as "barely legal". Legal -- but barely! Not my type at all, but clearly the type of some key posters here. As the old saying goes, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round (or something like that). Badboy, if you think HE looks really young (or "barely legal"), do a search of the photos in the archives. Brace yourself. There's plenty others where that came from. Maybe he's just a forever young Ralph Maccio-type who can play "The Karate Kid" into his 30s? JAYBLK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I for one am tired of so-called "badboy" (lol) poster and his perpatual MUH DIK act. Comes on a rentboy forum to vaunt about how he's such a stud, you know, and doesn't NEED rentboys! And gets them for free, you know lol muh dik, comes with the territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SolaceSoul Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 An interesting thing about this "Badboy81" character (who hails from Atlanta) is that he uses the very same photo that an escort / rentboy in the Atlanta area has been using on his Adam4Adam profile for years (and advertises to be around the same age). This could just be a coincidence. Or they could be one and the same? Badboy81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 An interesting thing about this "Badboy81" character (who hails from Atlanta) is that he uses the very same photo that an escort / rentboy in the Atlanta area has been using on his Adam4Adam profile for years (and advertises to be around the same age). This could just be a coincidence. Or they could be one and the same? Okay, Sherlock Holmes, I want to hire you for some intelligence work I must do for a client. Just kidding. I am impressed that you found and posted the ad. When you read the ad, the wording in the escort's ad has an "attitude" similar to that expressed by the poster, Badboy81. If I cast a vote of yes or no (voting that the ad is the same person as the one who posts here), I vote - yes. Let me also be a detective - the person at adam4adam has another ad on rentboy.com. http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=990628&type=escort If the photos that show in the rentboy.com ad are current and are really the advertiser, I can see why he regards himself as a handsome stud. If the photos are real and if the arrogant attitude were not there, he could command a large client base. SolaceSoul and Badboy81 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SolaceSoul Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 My investigative services are not for hire. Just call it a raw talent, or an "occupational hazard"! LOL I'm in Atlanta quite often for business and pleasure, as mentioned before, but I've never hired this one. I've seen the ads before, but something was just a little "off" to me. I usually go on my gut, which has saved me from potential harm and ruin. But rest assured, I can easily find an ex-client of his. His ad has been running for at least as long as I've been traveling to Atlanta this decade. I agree that it doesn't have to be be him necessarily. He could just be using his photo and description. There are plenty "catfish" online. However, the tone of the conversation here is quite eerily similar to the tone in these ads. So that would explain how he pays for these Brazilian / Dominican trips! :-) ... although he does seem to be on a strict budget. So maybe business isn't so great? Just in case the rentboy ad mysteriously goes bye-bye, here are screen shots of the ad for posterity purposes: Badboy81 and mvan1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 My investigative services are not for hire. Just call it a raw talent, or an "occupational hazard"! LOL I'm in Atlanta quite often for business and pleasure, as mentioned before, but I've never hired this one. I've seen the ads before, but something was just a little "off" to me. I usually go on my gut, which has saved me from potential harm and ruin. But rest assured, I can easily find an ex-client of his. His ad has been running for at least as long as I've been traveling to Atlanta this decade. I agree that it doesn't have to be be him necessarily. He could just be using his photo and description. There are plenty "catfish" online. However, the tone of the conversation here is quite eerily similar to the tone in these ads. So that would explain how he pays for these Brazilian / Dominican trips! :-) ... although he does seem to be on a strict budget. So maybe business isn't so great? Just in case the rentboy ad mysteriously goes bye-bye, here are screen shots of the ad for posterity purposes: Thanks for the info and photos. Assuming the photos are of him, I suspect that he will not be happy with what was uncovered and posted here. Even if the ads are his, his real name is not entered in this forum. Had he not written those judgemental and hostile things, AND, included his searchable avatar in his public profile, we would not have been stimulated to perform a search on the avatar. You mentioned that you can easily find an ex client of the guy in the ads. If you do that and if it is determined to be our fellow forum user, I request that you not post anything personal about him here. That would serve no purpose. I think he is already feeling bad enough at what has been posted. If the ads are of our guy, he brought this on himself. Badboy81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 His account here is as an escort. That is what he registered as and I am glad we have escorts posting here. I also ran an agency in NYC for years and many of my guys hired on a regular basis and I had 4 of them that traveled with me to Thailand and they all partook in the Thai moneyboy scene as clients. http://www.boytoy.com/boytoy-profile/Badboy81/ mvan1 and Badboy81 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 His account here is as an escort. That is what he registered as and I am glad we have escorts posting here. I also ran an agency in NYC for years and many of my guys hired on a regular basis and I had 4 of them that traveled with me to Thailand and they all partook in the Thai moneyboy scene as clients. http://www.boytoy.com/boytoy-profile/Badboy81/ Well, that settles the question of the ads being our fellow poster. Knowing that fact makes it understandable why, in a couple of his posts, he mentioned his sexual prowess within the saunas and his physical endowment. At the time I read his posts, I wondered why a client his age would go to Brazil and hire garotos as sex partners and write the things he did. Now that we know that he really is a young good looking guy, with a huge endowment, it makes perfect sense why he wrote about his activities in the saunas. However, his having an astringent personality is not explained by the dual status of client/escort. I wish him well. Badboy81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 Duplicate - please delete - Sorry, I am in Brazil and have not yet adjusted to the local time - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SolaceSoul Posted July 15, 2015 Members Share Posted July 15, 2015 Well, that settles the question of the ads being our fellow poster. Knowing that fact makes it understandable why, in a couple of his posts, he mentioned his sexual prowess within the saunas and his physical endowment. At the time I read his posts, I wondered why a client his age would go to Brazil and hire garotos as sex partners and write the things he did. Now that we know that he really is a young good looking guy, with a huge endowment, it makes perfect sense. However, his having an astringent personality is not explained by the dual status of client/escort. I wish him well. "Young" is relative, as is good-looking. I am not berating him for being an escort or rentboy. After all, isn't this mostly what this site is about, and why we many of us come to this and sites like it -- to learn about, discuss and find escorts and the like? However, what I was trying to point out (the point which I do not believe has gone over most readers' heads) is that this guy who talks a lot of shit about older guys who hire younger working guys, and older guys who travel to find them, turns out to be a long-time working guy himself! Irony, hypocrisy and projection all wrapped up in one big ball. I hire, locally and abroad. I travel, and when I travel, often I like to hire. Sometimes, I travel with friends, sometimes I travel with guys I have hired who I am friendly with. I have the resources to do this. And judging by his ads, I am also not THAT much older than this Badboy guy, maybe by a decade or so. And I hope to be hiring, traveling and looking and felling my best (whatever that Badboy81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SolaceSoul Posted July 16, 2015 Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 And I hope to be hiring, traveling and looking and feeling my best (whatever that may be) for many years to come. So I'm not going to insult older men who do what I currently do and will continue to do in the future. I'm not going to critique adults for being attracted to and engaging with other consenting, willing adults with free agency, whether I find those particular types attractive or not. I don't think this particular escort from Atlanta Badboy81 can say the same. What is perplexing is, just who does this escort think his (current, potential) client base is comprised of? Younger, muscular, fit, well-built guys? Although it is possible to have some like this (I started hiring in my 20s early in my professional career just BECUASE it was easier and more convenient), most likely his clients are older men. So he has outward disdain for his clients, which really says a lot about what's going on in his own psyche. If he has such disrespect for his potential client base, perhaps he should find other work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mvan1 Posted July 16, 2015 Members Share Posted July 16, 2015 So he has outward disdain for his clients, which really says a lot about what's going on in his own psyche. If he has such disrespect for his potential client base, perhaps he should find other work. When he began to post, he made the forum more interesting, in my opinion. I looked forward to reading his feigned refreshing outlook (although I did not know it was disingenuous at the time). Then the mask slipped and the real badboy81 became apparent. Maybe that is why he chose his user name to more closely reflect his real self. Bottom line, based on his recent judgemental and hostile posts, I agree with your assessment that he has disdain for his older clients. Nonetheless, I still wish him well. SolaceSoul and Badboy81 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy81 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 An interesting thing about this "Badboy81" character (who hails from Atlanta) is that he uses the very same photo that an escort / rentboy in the Atlanta area has been using on his Adam4Adam profile for years (and advertises to be around the same age). This could just be a coincidence. Or they could be one and the same? Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy81 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 And I hope to be hiring, traveling and looking and feeling my best (whatever that may be) for many years to come. So I'm not going to insult older men who do what I currently do and will continue to do in the future. I'm not going to critique adults for being attracted to and engaging with other consenting, willing adults with free agency, whether I find those particular types attractive or not. I don't think this particular escort from Atlanta Badboy81 can say the same. What is perplexing is, just who does this escort think his (current, potential) client base is comprised of? Younger, muscular, fit, well-built guys? Although it is possible to have some like this (I started hiring in my 20s early in my professional career just BECUASE it was easier and more convenient), most likely his clients are older men. So he has outward disdain for his clients, which really says a lot about what's going on in his own psyche. If he has such disrespect for his potential client base, perhaps he should find other work. Just for you sir....I have a full time job and choose my clients carefully...therefor this is something I do not have to do on a daily basis... I applaud your "investigative work" and hope you got the response you clearly needed.... Keep living.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy81 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 My investigative services are not for hire. Just call it a raw talent, or an "occupational hazard"! LOL I'm in Atlanta quite often for business and pleasure, as mentioned before, but I've never hired this one. I've seen the ads before, but something was just a little "off" to me. I usually go on my gut, which has saved me from potential harm and ruin. But rest assured, I can easily find an ex-client of his. His ad has been running for at least as long as I've been traveling to Atlanta this decade. I agree that it doesn't have to be be him necessarily. He could just be using his photo and description. There are plenty "catfish" online. However, the tone of the conversation here is quite eerily similar to the tone in these ads. So that would explain how he pays for these Brazilian / Dominican trips! :-) ... although he does seem to be on a strict budget. So maybe business isn't so great? Just in case the rentboy ad mysteriously goes bye-bye, here are screen shots of the ad for posterity purposes: Since you want to be CATTY, let me make sure you and everyone else on the forum knows... I have a FULL TIME JOB...2 degrees and was traveling, WITHOUT A BUDGET before any of the ads... I am very happy that you have chosen NOT to hire me, so that you spared me not having to meet you and do anything with you... Based on my attitude that you have gathered from reading my responses on a forum, again, I have for you, TWO TEARS IN A BUCKET...you know what do to from there... I do appreciate your additional marketing/advertising...I understand that BAD PUBLICITY is all the same.... Regardless of what you type here, my life still keeps going... It's sad that you had to resort to childish antics because I hurt your feelings...I apologize....You all better now? Keep living....And doing business in Atlanta businessman.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
