Russia ?

[12is12]

Hi Guys,

Moscow and St. Petersberg: I'd be glad for any info and/or recommendations regarding venues and/or guys for fun, free or for-pay, including cruising points.

Thanks

[tassojunior]

Same here...all those St Petersburg guys on Chaterbate are amazingly good-looking. I'm wondering if Central Station the huge gay bar there the guys tell me about has any working guys or any of the saunas. Airfares to Russia are low--especially on LOT.

[axiom2001]

[boiworship]

Hot boys, but I'd be very worried about the rampant homophobia there. Besides, Americans aren't very popular in the Rodina right now.

[marcusclaus]

Due to my work, I am in Russia 4 to 6 times a year.

In Saint Petersburg you can visit Club Sinners and Central Station. Both are safe, clean and have working boys.

If you need directions or have any questions do not hesitate to ask a young Russian (+/- 18 - 28 years), in general that generation speaks English and 99 out of 100 will do all to help you.

@boiworship in general Russians do not blaim foreigners for the policy of their government - since in their perspective - YOU do not have any influence on that policy. Thats a bit old Soviet thinking

The clubs I mentioned or on a very exclusive and AAA location. They both are open to public for more than 10 year and their clientele is known by the officials.

Its a fact that in general their is less respect for the LGBT scene than in Western Europe. But on daily life gays are not chased or have problems on the streets.

[lookin]

Certainly appreciate the insights, marcusclaus!

The other night, however, I was watching an Anthony Bordain program shot in Russia and there was unpleasant footage of gays being beaten up.

From what I gathered, there is a segment of Russian society that is progressive, in strong opposition to government policies and Putin, and is outspoken to the point of putting themselves in danger. There is another segment that is much less enlightened and is very susceptible to fear-mongering and acting on those fears. It sounded like that mob was in the majority overall.

Of course, as you are on the ground, your views carry a lot of weight.

Still, should I ever find myself going to Russia, I don't think I'd pack my best babushka.

[marcusclaus]

Hi Lookin,

Thank you for your kind words. It's true, at demonstrations / gay parades etc. things get violent fast and easy.

Imho, that is just one part. In normal daily life there generally it's not a big issue. If it was, the - openly - gay venues would have been closed down years and years ago and there would be much violence around them; witch is not the case.

Something else thats good to mention, Saint Petersburg is much more liberal then Moscow. Thats because of the fact it has a much more West European orientation; it's just a 2h 25m drive on the E18 to Finland.

I be most happy to give some tips and advice for those who plan to go to Saint Petersburg / Moscow.

Just for the record, I'm not Russian I am a Dutchmann.

[tassojunior]

Due to my work, I am in Russia 4 to 6 times a year.

In Saint Petersburg you can visit Club Sinners and Central Station. Both are safe, clean and have working boys.

If you need directions or have any questions do not hesitate to ask a young Russian (+/- 18 - 28 years), in general that generation speaks English and 99 out of 100 will do all to help you.

@boiworship in general Russians do not blaim foreigners for the policy of their government - since in their perspective - YOU do not have any influence on that policy. Thats a bit old Soviet thinking

The clubs I mentioned or on a very exclusive and AAA location. They both are open to public for more than 10 year and their clientele is known by the officials.

Its a fact that in general their is less respect for the LGBT scene than in Western Europe. But on daily life gays are not chased or have problems on the streets.

I know about Central Station bar from the boys on CB. But what is the situation with taking them in as guests at hotels? That could be a dealbreaker.

[marcusclaus]

I always stay in rental apartments, so I cannot comment on that, sorry.

[shonanto]

Hi Lookin,

Thank you for your kind words. It's true, at demonstrations / gay parades etc. things get violent fast and easy.

Imho, that is just one part. In normal daily life there generally it's not a big issue. If it was, the - openly - gay venues would have been closed down years and years ago and there would be much violence around them; witch is not the case.

Something else thats good to mention, Saint Petersburg is much more liberal then Moscow. Thats because of the fact it has a much more West European orientation; it's just a 2h 25m drive on the E18 to Finland.

I be most happy to give some tips and advice for those who plan to go to Saint Petersburg / Moscow.

Just for the record, I'm not Russian I am a Dutchmann.

Hi Marcus~~

Can you share some tips and advices on where to find rent boys in Moscow and St Petes?

Thanks!

[tassojunior]

I'm planning on late August (to get the visa}. I prefer hotels to AirBnB usually but I'm wondering if hotels would be no-friends-up in Russia. Also trying to hit Riga, Tallin and Helsinki.

[boiworship]

I'm planning on late August (to get the visa}. I prefer hotels to AirBnB usually but I'm wondering if hotels would be no-friends-up in Russia. Also trying to hit Riga, Tallin and Helsinki.

I enjoyed Helsinki big I found the Finns to be rather morose. Of course, it was in the beginning of October and the temps were already at the freezing mark. Tallinn, on the other hand, is full of the cutest blinds I've ever seen. There are a few clubs in the Old Town. Most of the Millennials speak English well, so you won't have a problem communicating. Next time I'm there, I want to visit Latvia, Lithuania and St Petersburg.

[boiworship]

What the hell is going on with Auto-check! I meant "but" and "blond"!

[tassojunior]

The Russian visa thing is a PITA. I'm starting the process tomorrow and my visit dates have to allow for the visa processing. Plus I have to give them my passport for maybe a month. If those Chaterbate boys weren't so f...ing perfect.

[Peter803]

Hey Tassojunior

So how's your trip to St Petersburg? Was it easy to have fun? Can you share some of your trip experience? Thanks

The Russian visa thing is a PITA. I'm starting the process tomorrow and my visit dates have to allow for the visa processing. Plus I have to give them my passport for maybe a month. If those Chaterbate boys weren't so f...ing perfect.

[Guest loyaldad]

I spent 3 weeks in Moscow and St Petersburg recently. Before the trip I spent a lot of time on houseboylive.com and became friends with a few guys there. You have to be discrete while asking guys on that site for contact information. They mostly work in studios that forbid any contact outside of the website. Some guys follow the rules and will not give out info. Others will discreetly send an email address or take yours. You can't type in email addresses or website names because the censor program will delete it and alert the studio owners.

My time in Moscow was mostly business. But in St Petersburg I met up with a lot of the guys I'd made friends with and had  a great time.

My friend Андрей said it best: "Russians speak English; Soviets do not. You want to find someone that speaks English look for someone born after 1992." He advised not going to Central Station, said it's sometimes dangerous. Instead we went to Blue Oyster just down the street from Central Station. Great club; I had fun there.

No problems taking boys to my hotel room.

Yes the visa thing is a pain. Mine took 3 trips to the consulate and 6 months.

So many good looking guys there. Just walking down the street you can't help but stare sometimes.

 

[enlglishmun]

I had 2 nights in St Pete's, first night was dry as fuck despite me trying everything online. The second night someone hot guy raised his eyebrows at me outside the'GAY' bar, I hung around for 10 mins to confirm and he walked back and introduced himself, ended up being a night of filthy sex for a reasonable price  

[meteorb]

what's the 'GAY' bar's name? @enlglishmun

[pylonguy71]

As mentioned, Chaturbate is an amazing source of incredibly hot guys, many of whom will happily discuss escorting in a private (but never publicly as it can get them banned).

I found Instagram to be the most reliable source of contact with the best Russian fitness models. But I would avoid anyone repped by ES Models. The agent is both greedy AND psycho (according to the models I have spoken with who no longer work with him but still escort privately). He charges a LOT for his guys and takes a large cut of course. There's plenty of amazing models to choose from privately outside of working with an agency like that.

Russian tourist visas are so unbelievably annoying, so I arranged for a very, very hot model from Moscow to meet me for travel (easy enough to find destinations that don't require tourist visas like Thailand) and we spent an incredible week together for a very, very reasonable price ($1500, plus expenses). Russians are far more passionate than Eastern Europeans IMHO, and having had such a positive experience, I would do it again. But make sure to cam or FaceTime to assess compatibility and English speaking levels. Traveling together wouldn't be nearly a enjoyable if you have to pass your phone back and forth with google translate.

[Peter803]

Do you mind giving out a bit more detail on how the  Instagram works in Russian escort and what agencies are reputable. Thanks

[pylonguy71]

It's as simple as finding models on Instagram or Chaturbate and talking with them. And avoiding any agencies in Russia.

[Cany10011]

Looks like i need to create a chaturbate account soon   i have a boytoyflirt account, some of the models look the same, but i think there is more selection on  chaturbate. 

[tassojunior]

 

 

 

The CB Russian guys go the extra mile to please.

 

 

 

[boiworship]

What a stunner!

[Sauter]

Now, I should write about my experiences in Russia.

I was in Moscow 19-22/12, St Peters 22-25/12, then again in Moscow 25-27/12.

Boys walking in towns are quite goodlooking. However, I never saw the same level goodlooking boys in bars.

Now, I tried an escort from rentmen in Moscow. The first one Vlad, a nice guy but the photos were too old. I gave him 50 $ for 5 minutes as agreed, and bye. The next one was a hit. Egor, 19 years old. He is really sweet and he did a lot in bed. I definitely recommend him and I should see him again.

Then moved to St Peters. It was Friday night, tried Central Station and Blue Oyster, both I stayed from 12am to 4am, but no young goodlooking there, or no boys for sale. Also, I should mention that it was about 30% to 50% capacity of crowds both bars. The following night, Saturday night, again the bars were not crowded. About 50% of turnups of usual, according to live information.

I then tried to find a boy via escort site, but only 5 or so guys listed, and they aren’t good looking.

Returning to Moscow, desperate me started to try Russian language escort sites. There is an online escort website, Big-Banan.ru

The boys listed are all goodlooking, just looking at the pictures made me hard on...however, guys, DON’T trust this website, the pictures are all fake. I actually asked over the phone if the pictures were ar real. The boys said yes, so I went to his place. There he admitted the pictures were not his. Waste of time! Of course, I left immediately. Another BT friend found a couple more pictures fake, thank god! 

In the end, I remembered someone in BT was talking about Russian gay social site called blue system. I tried it and it allows you to find boys looking for older someone for mutual benefits. I should have done this before travelling there, I actually created my account and got replies from some cute boys. The language is the problem as my Russian is still clap, but this made me ant to study harder until my next visit to Russia.

So, in Russia, cute boys are not in bars or escort sites. We need to try out russianwebsite with google translate, which should be done in advance of your visit.