Boeing to make traveling easier beginning this year

[mvan1]

For those of us who travel a lot and do not like to check luggage, Boeing has come to our rescue.

Below is a link to a video that shows the new overhead bins that will eventually be standard on all new Boeing aircraft.

Overhead space on an airplane is often difficult to find unless you board early. With the new type bins, there is up to 48% more bin space. This will make a lot of customers happy.

Take a look at this 2015 video that shows the bins -

[jgoo]

It seems that the trend to charge for checked luggage, which encourages carry ons, has helped motivate this design change. I can see that it is something those that prefer to do carry ons would be happy about. As someone who almost always checks in baggage, I just will likely be more annoyed and delayed by all the additional carry ons. So I guess it comes from ones own perspective whether this is a good thing or not.

[MsAnn]

Thanks mvan1. I haven't checked luggage in 30 years. I sorta got this whole travel 'carry-on' thing down to a science. I'm not bragging, but I'm pretty damn good at it, so this is indeed good news.

[mvan1]

Thanks mvan1. I haven't checked luggage in 30 years. I sorta got this whole travel 'carry-on' thing down to a science. I'm not bragging, but I'm pretty damn good at it, so this is indeed good news.

You are welcome.

I also perfected my carry on luggage procedure down to a science.

It is not the checked bag fee that causes me to avoid checking a bag.

All it took was for me to have a checked bag rummaged through by TSA and/or baggage handlers. The mess and inconvenience caused by the bag abuse caused me to never check luggage anymore.

Now I am spoiled. I no longer have to wonder if my bag is aboard my flight and I no longer have to wait at the baggage claim carrousel. What is not to like?

[mvan1]

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. As someone who almost always checks in baggage, I just will likely be more annoyed and delayed by all the additional carry ons.

It won't be that bad.

Boeing recommended that airlines begin boarding the larger bin aircraft earlier than conventional sized bin aircraft.

It was suggested that larger bin domestic flights will board 10 minutes earlier than planes with the conventional size bins. International flights will board 20 minutes sooner.

Whether this happens is yet to be seen.

The only air carrier that will soon have the larger bins is Alaska Airlines. Others will slowly follow.

[paulsf]

I go the other way. I always check my luggage. Most of my trips now are my month long trips to Bangkok, and I take a few extra things that I wouldn't on a regular trip. So I need the bigger bag. But I'm not as bad as TotallyOz who needs his own shipping container.

I'm hopping this will allow everybody to carry on and when I go to the baggage carrousel it will just be my bag there.

[AdamSmith]

But I'm not as bad as TotallyOz who needs his own shipping container.

What I'm getting Oz for his next birthday.

[mvan1]

I go the other way. I always check my luggage. Most of my trips now are my month long trips to Bangkok, and I take a few extra things that I wouldn't on a regular trip. So I need the bigger bag. But I'm not as bad as TotallyOz who needs his own shipping container.

I'm hopping this will allow everybody to carry on and when I go to the baggage carrousel it will just be my bag there.

With the larger over-head bins, of course, the baggage claim carrousel will be less busy which means less of a wait for luggage to arrive from the aircraft.

The key is, will your bag make the flight?

Or, will TSA or others, abuse your luggage?

See this recent CNN report _ This is quite shocking -

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/13/us/airport-luggage-theft/

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[RA1]

From previous reports I am not sure the C-17 will be sufficient for Oz's baggage. Perhaps a C-5A, a FEDEX wide body MD-11 or a Boeing 747-8 cargo version.

An SAA FEDEX container will fit neatly into an MD-11 and carry up to 13,300 pounds. Nothing like having everything you own delivered at once.

Best regards,

RA1

[MsAnn]

With the larger over-head bins, of course, the baggage claim carrousel will be less busy which means less of a wait for luggage to arrive from the aircraft.

The key is, will your bag make the flight?

Or, will TSA or others, abuse your luggage?

See this recent CNN report _ This is quite shocking -

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/13/us/airport-luggage-theft/

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EXACTLY...

Lufthansa lost my luggage once. It's sort of like that old saying..."Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

Plus as mvan1 points out, TSA has become problematic as of late. Enough so, that it's just easier to do carry-on. (for me at least) each to his own.

[mvan1]

EXACTLY...

Lufthansa lost my luggage once. It's sort of like that old saying..."Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

Plus as mvan1 points out, TSA has become problematic as of late. Enough so, that it's just easier to do carry-on. (for me at least) each to his own.

A LITTLE MORE ON THE SUBJECT -

Here’s How New Boeing Overhead Bins Will Make Boarding Faster and Flying Easier

Many flyers don't remember that before 9/11 passengers could take two carry on bags onboard. Generally passengers had a free allowance of three bags -- and those could be two carry ons and one checked bag, or one carry on and two checked bags.

This changed by government regulation. The TSA wanted fewer bags going through the checkpoint, which meant less screening work, and fewer delays given a fixed throughput at the checkpoint.

Continental Airlines actually pushed back: they had installed higher capacity overhead bins as a customer convenience. Passengers wanted to carry on bags, and they viewed this accommodation as a competitive advantage.

Continue reading Here’s How New Boeing Overhead Bins Will Make Boarding Faster and Flying Easier...

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[RA1]

Many years ago (before deregulation) I used to fly 2-4 times per week on the airlines. All of these trips were one way, either delivering an aircraft with airline home or vice versa. I never checked my baggage because when I got to the destination airport, the airport was where I was going to do business. Also, as mentioned above, in those days one could carry on two bags (+ check one if necessary).

One trip I was going from MEM to RNO on a UA 727 with stops in ORD and BOI. A most of the day trip. For once I decided I would check a bag and just spread out, read and relax in my seat. Silly because in those days a bad trip was if the middle seat was occupied. Anyway, after riding all day, we arrived in RNO and I went to the baggage claim to get my bag. No bag. Not having my bag was going to be more than an inconvenience because in addition to clothes it had a lot of flying gear such as charts, etc.

I walked back out to the 727 which was running and about to depart. The ground crew was hooked up to the external intercom and when I tapped him on the back, he nearly jumped out of his skin. I told him my bag was still on the aircraft and I wanted it. He explained to the pilots and retrieved it from the cargo hold and handed it to me. I thanked him and departed. All this was via shouting with the engines running.

Even before deregulation this would not have been possible as security was started during the 70's. It slowly escalated until 2001 and then mushroomed. Still the UA pilots and the ground crew were surprised to see me walk out there. I could clearly see them looking at us from the cockpit. Intently.

Best regards,

RA1

[MsAnn]

Many years ago (before deregulation) I used to fly 2-4 times per week on the airlines. All of these trips were one way, either delivering an aircraft with airline home or vice versa. I never checked my baggage because when I got to the destination airport, the airport was where I was going to do business. Also, as mentioned above, in those days one could carry on two bags (+ check one if necessary).

One trip I was going from MEM to RNO on a UA 727 with stops in ORD and BOI. A most of the day trip. For once I decided I would check a bag and just spread out, read and relax in my seat. Silly because in those days a bad trip was if the middle seat was occupied. Anyway, after riding all day, we arrived in RNO and I went to the baggage claim to get my bag. No bag. Not having my bag was going to be more than an inconvenience because in addition to clothes it had a lot of flying gear such as charts, etc.

I walked back out to the 727 which was running and about to depart. The ground crew was hooked up to the external intercom and when I tapped him on the back, he nearly jumped out of his skin. I told him my bag was still on the aircraft and I wanted it. He explained to the pilots and retrieved it from the cargo hold and handed it to me. I thanked him and departed. All this was via shouting with the engines running.

Even before deregulation this would not have been possible as security was started during the 70's. It slowly escalated until 2001 and then mushroomed. Still the UA pilots and the ground crew were surprised to see me walk out there. I could clearly see them looking at us from the cockpit. Intently.

Best regards,

RA1

You clearly have more pull than the rest of us...lol...When Lufthansa lost my luggage in Rome, an airline employee just pointed down a hall way and said,"Go there". I walked into claims, explained that none of my luggage came off the plane, and she looked at me like I had lost a magazine and said, "here, fill this out"...and slid some paper work across the table. I filled everything out, and said now what, she shrugged her shoulders and said, "Will call you"

Lovely people....

[mvan1]

SPEAKING OF AIRPORT THEFTS

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/04/26/woman-cleaning-aircraft-at-new-york-jfk-stole-1500-mini-bottles-of-liquor-she-could-have-avoided-jail-with-this-one-simple-trick/

[BigK]

I've been doing the carry on only thing for 30 years. Since Airlines have begun been charging for checked bags boarding has become a zoo. These bin's are a good idea, but will the airlines embrace them if it means losing revenue on checked baggage?

It makes too much sense to me, so I'm betting against mass adoption of the new bins.

[TotallyOz]

I am looking forward to seeing this in action.

[RA1]

The regionals are the airliners that need more carry on baggage room. They are smaller aircraft and fly generally shorter legs. Even before the extra profit checked baggage came into vogue, everyone wanted to use carry on exclusively on regionals. From the experience of my friends who unfortunately have to use the regionals, they now have an unwritten policy of denying carry on even though it was bought specifically to fit on a regional. Their first claim, if you object, is, no, it won't fit. Their second claim is the aircraft has run out of room for carry on baggage. Clearly they are after the $25.

Best regards,

RA1

[MsAnn]

Except in my experience before an airline runs out of room, at least on Virgin and American that is, they will announce first before they start to board passengers, and offer coach passengers with seats toward the rear of the plane, free baggage check at the gate, and also priority boarding right after First Class and Business.

On a couple of occasions when there weren't enough takers, and they still ran out of room, they would check the bags, but still I didn't see where the passenger was getting charged. But it's possible they would be somewhere down the line.

[RA1]

A short time ago, on smaller aircraft, they would let you go to the gate with carry on baggage. Then, when the room ran out they would "gate check it". This baggage would go into the cargo area of the plane right under the gate and they would hand it to you as you de-planed at your destination (a nuisance to your fellow travelers who had to wait behind you as you got your baggage).

They were not charging for this then. Now I believe their plan is to head you off at the check in counter and get your money and your bag right then and there.

As always, your results may vary depending upon the exact airline, the personnel you encounter and how the flight/day is going.

Best regards,

RA1

[BigK]

Except in my experience before an airline runs out of room, at least on Virgin and American that is, they will announce first before they start to board passengers, and offer coach passengers with seats toward the rear of the plane, free baggage check at the gate, and also priority boarding right after First Class and Business.

On a couple of occasions when there weren't enough takers, and they still ran out of room, they would check the bags, but still I didn't see where the passenger was getting charged. But it's possible they would be somewhere down the line.

United does this too. Just take the bag you want to check to the gate and you can most likely get your bag checked for free.

[JKane]

Cool design except less HEADROOM. Probably still fine while seated but that awkward stand/crouch while waiting to make it into the isle looks like it'll be even worse--and some horrible side-limbo IF the bin is open!