Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 ihpguy is near hysterical, as I predicted some people would be on this subject. ihpguy I will ask again, why did you in another thread encourage people to avoid the better-looking boys? I don't pay R400 or R600, I said I knew of a few Brazilians who did. I pay the going rate of about R100 as I've said. That includes with Fernando by the way, that's what he charges me. (Can you get that price from him? Good luck with that. Try for R80 and let me know how that goes.) I choose to give him a tip on days when I think he performs well. As for yourself, you can save the $20 and buy yourself some of that gourmet ketchup or Graham crackers you talked about. No I'm not Asia. And ihpguy I've seen the boys you talk about. If bragging was the thing, I should tell you, I can go to any gay club and get those kinds of boys, or better, for free. I've also been offered money in Rio. Bragging about how little you pay male whores is nothing to feel proud about. Just a brief comment on your comment above. ANYBODY can get offered money by Someone. As they say "there's a cover for every pot" Even Grandma Sucky has been offered a few dollars by the guys at the Senior Center...... ihpguy 1 Quote
Guest callipygian Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 forget about "male whores" and work on your personalitty instead. Thanks for the tip Gotti! Consider your ejaculation - on me! Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 It's possible that everyone was offered money, in the same way that it's possible ihpguy can talk down the price of every boy at 117 to R80 using his special Portuguese skills. Including the "better looking boys" he advised others to avoid for some mysterious reason. Anyway, my point is that it's silly to come here and vaunt about how little you pay male prostitutes. What's the point? Forget about me, believe what you like. You do realize, however, that if you're paying a 20 yr old boy, especially if he's gay, that there's someone else who's getting the same boy for free? So what's the point? Quote
Members ihpguy Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 PR2K - Please find the thread where I ever said to avoid the good-looking or better-looking boys/garotos? And you have PM'd me in the past that you have offered 300Reais and even more to Fernando and he has turned you down. Get your lies straight. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Why isn't it like tipping any other professional? I have to laugh at you guys and this paranoia you all have about "being cheated as a foreigner." The boys do laugh at foreigners and think they're idiots, but many do so for the opposite reason than you think. Parisrio, I dont tip my doctor or my accountant or my lawyer, in fact I dont tip ANY self employed professional where 100% of the fee goes into his own pocket.... Is just as simple as that... However, in escorting if the boy is working at a brothel type facility I might be inclined to tip him, but not necessarily, and I certainly wouldnt put a ton of thought into it. I would just tip based on my experience and my pocketbook. ihpguy 1 Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 PR2K - Please find the thread where I ever said to avoid the good-looking or better-looking boys/garotos? And you have PM'd me in the past that you have offered 300Reais and even more to Fernando and he has turned you down. Get your lies straight. lol wat? Show me the PM. That would be funny if Fernando turned me down for R300 seeing how I'm a regular client and pay him about R100 a turno basic. Fernando has never turned me down, nor have I ever been turned down by any other boy at 117. But see calli this is what I'm talking about...to guys like ihpguy it's nothing about the pleasure. He actually gets off more on coming to this forum and bullshitting about how little he has to pay. Doesn't realize others get the same boys for free. I went to a cheap steakhouse the other day...but because the steak was mediocre, it was actually expensive... ihpguy if you want to talk lies, and about this boy in particular, I do have the PM from you where you pretend Fernando doesn't exist. You've done this in the past...pretended the boys who charge more just "don't exist." Does it calm your ego or something. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 PR2K - Please find the thread where I ever said to avoid the good-looking or better-looking boys/garotos? And you have PM'd me in the past that you have offered 300Reais and even more to Fernando and he has turned you down. Get your lies straight. Parisrio suggests he can get escort-caliber boys for FREE... Well then he is simply a fool if he is out there hiring, which also suggests theres something a lot more Psychological going on. Guys that HIRE do so for Control, they want the upper hand, they want to pull the strings and run the show. I have always said that I can get attractive guys without hiring, they may not be escort-caliber, but they are certainly easy on the eyes, and serve MY purpose, and my wallet stays looking very full and pretty . Giving up control is very easy for me when I am saving an average of $250-300..... ihpguy 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Catch it Now: ihp and Parisrio ihpguy 1 Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Parisrio suggests he can get escort-caliber boys for FREE... Well then he is simply a fool if he is out there hiring, which also suggests theres something a lot more Psychological going on. Guys that HIRE do so for Control, they want the upper hand, they want to pull the strings and run the show. I have always said that I can get attractive guys without hiring, they may not be escort-caliber, but they are certainly easy on the eyes, and serve MY purpose, and my wallet stays looking very full and pretty . Giving up control is very easy for me when I am saving an average of $250-300..... No I said I can get the general type of boy at Meio Mundo or even 117 for free if they're gay, at a gay club. I do fine in gay clubs but I dont like that type of boy usually. I generally can't get the straight boys for free, especially if they look like the ones I like. Seducing a straight guy takes a lot of work and patience. So I go to 117 to pay for the few straight ones, not the gay ones. I don't know another venue in which it is easy to have sex with a hot straight guy, so I'm willing to pay for that. I would consider myself "cheated" if I had to pay for a gay guy or for a woman, because there's surely some other guy getting the same for free. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 No I said I can get the general type of boy at Meio Mundo or even 117 for free if they're gay, at a gay club. I do fine in gay clubs but I dont like that type of boy usually. I generally can't get the straight boys for free, especially if they look like the ones I like. Seducing a straight guy takes a lot of work and patience. So I go to 117 to pay for the few straight ones, not the gay ones. I don't know another venue in which it is easy to have sex with a hot straight guy, so I'm willing to pay for that. I would consider myself "cheated" if I had to pay for a gay guy or for a woman, because there's surely some other guy getting the same for free. Once again, its all Psycholiogical, since you really DONT know their sexual affiliation, you are just ASSUMING it to meet YOUR own personal fantasy. I am not putting you down for it parisrio, but you can see how silly this whole thing is... We create in our own minds the situation we want, and then we go try to manifest it. and we each have our own methods and styles, and TYPES. In reality, the boy you are paying and assuming is str8 could be the GAYEST cocksucker in the hood.... These boys are clever and know what their market wants.. And if they fill your Fantasy, its their job well done. ihpguy 1 Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Suckrates can you please erase that pic you posted? It's really unpleasant to look at... Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Once again, its all Psycholiogical, since you really DONT know their sexual affiliation, you are just ASSUMING it to meet YOUR own personal fantasy. I am not putting you down for it parisrio, but you can see how silly this whole thing is... We create in our own minds the situation we want, and then we go try to manifest it. and we each have our own methods and styles, and TYPES. In reality, the boy you are paying and assuming is str8 could be the GAYEST cocksucker in the hood.... These boys are clever and know what their market wants.. And if they fill your Fantasy, its their job well done. I lived in Brazil 5 yrs and speak the language. I confirm with other clients about the boy's personal life. Some of the clients and other boys know them personally. I know quite a bit about the home life of the boys I choose. So no, it's not just assumptions. Quote
TotallyOz Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 I lived in Brazil 5 yrs and speak the language. I confirm with other clients about the boy's personal life. Some of the clients and other boys know them personally. I know quite a bit about the home life of the boys I choose. So no, it's not just assumptions. I have not lived in Brazil for 5 years but I did live with a Brazilian in NYC for 5 years and can confirm that he was the best at taking every spare penny I made. Damn, his home life was very good. My work life was hectic but in the end, it was a good experience. I enjoy this discussion but please, lets debate the topic and not each other. As for IHPGUY, I have great respect for him and I also saw him work his magic. It works great. But, his command of the language is excellent and he can get away with a lot more than most of us can. He fits in and blends in. I stand out like a sore thumb just waiting to be sucked in by the right guy. We all have different experiences and expectations and that is what makes life so fucking wonderful. I wish I had the skill that ihpguy has or the charm that Tomcal has or the ability to pick up gay boys without pay. I don't. So, I go with my gifts and that is to be the highest bidder in the race. Hey, we all have to use what we have don't we? mvan1, ihpguy and MsGuy 3 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Suckrates can you please erase that pic you posted? It's really unpleasant to look at... Another lesson you NEED to learn Sir is that not everything in life is Pleasant, OR about YOU ! ihpguy 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 I lived in Brazil 5 yrs and speak the language. I confirm with other clients about the boy's personal life. Some of the clients and other boys know them personally. I know quite a bit about the home life of the boys I choose. So no, it's not just assumptions. No, then its just SICK..... You are borderline stalker..... and obsessive I might add. Running a dosier on a potential escort to make sure he is str8 ???? I truly hope you arent serious, and find something more constructive to do with your time. I try not to be judgemental, but you make it Very difficult for me here parisrio.... ihpguy 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 I have not lived in Brazil for 5 years but I did live with a Brazilian in NYC for 5 years and can confirm that he was the best at taking every spare penny I made. Damn, his home life was very good. My work life was hectic but in the end, it was a good experience. I enjoy this discussion but please, lets debate the topic and not each other. As for IHPGUY, I have great respect for him and I also saw him work his magic. It works great. But, his command of the language is excellent and he can get away with a lot more than most of us can. He fits in and blends in. I stand out like a sore thumb just waiting to be sucked in by the right guy. We all have different experiences and expectations and that is what makes life so fucking wonderful. I wish I had the skill that ihpguy has or the charm that Tomcal has or the ability to pick up gay boys without pay. I don't. So, I go with my gifts and that is to be the highest bidder in the race. Hey, we all have to use what we have don't we? Yup, even if its just money.... As for the discussion OZ, sometimes the lines become blurred when people make statements about themselves and their activities. In responding, it just becomes personal by natural progression with No disrespect to anyone.... I hope you can see that ? And honestly, a reply is merely just an opinion of one person, and if its delivered in a manner thats not hostile or threatening, I dont see a problem. Basically, arent these sites or blogs just insights and opinions ???? ihpguy 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 I dont claim to be an authority on anything, except Big cocks, and even in that arena, I am still learning... So I am truly out of my element here commenting on the Brazilian escort scene. However, this thread has basically turned into a discussion of the hiring habits and practices of 2 members here, so my comments are focused on that alone... Parisrio, I am sorry for the tone of my previous post, but your comments were as unsettling to me as the pic I posted was to you. I am a bit uneasy about any person "vetting" another, especially when its simply for hire. I can understand if you need to hang onto the idea of the boys you hire being 100% str8, but as the Old saying goes, "if he were 100% str8, he wouldnt be shoving his cock up your ass"... Afterall, he's NOT in prison.... So for you to claim you KNOW with all certainty your boys are Str8 makes me chuckle... The mind is a wonderful thing, it helps us achieve what we need, even if its an orgasm, so I am OK with you seeking out certain types of boys. I'm just NOT as OK with the fervor in which you pursue them . To me its just a bit scary...... ihpguy 1 Quote
Members MsAnn Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Should I make tea and brownies for everyone? ihpguy 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Should I make tea and brownies for everyone? No, not in this case MsAnn. I was not trying to disparage parisrio, although my post did come off that way. And I am certainly not waging any war with him.. I hope he understands that and we can continue to discuss this in a civil way... You have all seen me when I am UNCIVIL And Annie, I thought WE had something special going on, and to that end, you would know I like RUGALAH ? Quote
Members MsAnn Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 No, not in this case MsAnn. I was not trying to disparage parisrio, although my post did come off that way. And I am certainly not waging any war with him.. I hope he understands that and we can continue to discuss this in a civil way... You have all seen me when I am UNCIVIL And Annie, I thought WE had something special going on, and to that end, you would know I like RUGALAH ? OK, was just making sure ya'll would be alright if I left ya'll alone for a bit. You do seem to cut through all the bullshit, and just call a spade a spade. For now, I guess I'll just turn off the oven, unless of course you would like a little rugelach Quote
Members ihpguy Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Down here we have cafe com leite and this bit of sweetness Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 Down here we have cafe com leite and this bit of sweetnessPasteisBelem.jpg Ooooh, that Does look delicious too, although reminiscent of a beat up Vagina..... ihpguy 1 Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 I dont claim to be an authority on anything, except Big cocks, and even in that arena, I am still learning... So I am truly out of my element here commenting on the Brazilian escort scene. However, this thread has basically turned into a discussion of the hiring habits and practices of 2 members here, so my comments are focused on that alone... Parisrio, I am sorry for the tone of my previous post, but your comments were as unsettling to me as the pic I posted was to you. I am a bit uneasy about any person "vetting" another, especially when its simply for hire. I can understand if you need to hang onto the idea of the boys you hire being 100% str8, but as the Old saying goes, "if he were 100% str8, he wouldnt be shoving his cock up your ass"... Afterall, he's NOT in prison.... So for you to claim you KNOW with all certainty your boys are Str8 makes me chuckle... The mind is a wonderful thing, it helps us achieve what we need, even if its an orgasm, so I am OK with you seeking out certain types of boys. I'm just NOT as OK with the fervor in which you pursue them . To me its just a bit scary...... You are just trying to guilt-trip me for my tastes and being a bigot I pay because I pay for prime rate straight guys. Otherwise I don't see the point in paying. Not that I blame others who pay for gay boys if that's what they like, but I just don't like it when then they come on forums to vaunt about how little they pay and how if you pay more you're a sucker. I just want an acknowledgment that a) tipping is up to the client and won't "distort" anything, and not anyone else's business and supply and demand exists in the rentboy world as anywhere else and the reason some boys charge a higher base rate (not R400 but R150 usually...although there ARE private rentboys, not in saunas, in Rio who do charge R400 or more and do get it, from Brazilian clients; you don't know about them) has to do with market forces and not with whether a foreigner wants to be generous occasionally to a boy. Again the rise in rate from R50 to R100 was far more significant than anything discussed here, and that doubling of the rate had nothing to do with foreigners. In the end, if you overpay you don't ruin it for anyone else. And you're only getting taken advantage of if you get pressured into believing that the base rate is higher than R100 or so, which I've never denied. A boy won't disrespect you if he knows you're paying a tip because you feel like it. Boys DO, however, now talk about people like ihpguy and how it makes it not worth it for them to deal with foreigners anymore, I'm not making that up and you need to realize this is happening. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted January 25, 2015 Members Posted January 25, 2015 You are just trying to guilt-trip me for my tastes and being a bigot I pay because I pay for prime rate straight guys. Otherwise I don't see the point in paying. Not that I blame others who pay for gay boys if that's what they like, but I just don't like it when then they come on forums to vaunt about how little they pay and how if you pay more you're a sucker. parisrio, you are soooo missing the point here. STRAIGHT boys fuck Girls, not YOU. Now maybe the Boy is Bisexual, but he sure as hell aint str8, no way in Hell. If it makes you feel better, or shoot further to believe hes str8, so be it, but noone is guilt-tripping you. It's your money and you can spend it on whatever and whomever you want. And you continue this debate, when you believe you are RIGHT is futile. Different people have different experiences, and you must acknowledge that its not always the way YOU see it. ihp seems to know his shit, and be a good source of information, as do you, and although your viewpoints are different, there is room for Both of them. AMEN. ihpguy 1 Quote
