Good Evening

[Suckrates]

Cheers me dear.

Yes I will be back there on the 30th March 2015, flights booked and paid for.

Thank you for liking my posts. At least they won't get hijacked over here with pictures and memes and snide remarks.

Oh YES they will, but thats part of the fun in the Boytoy playground (except for Axiom who depises post hijacks)

[Suckrates]

Oh I've just had a look in since my forced time out and seen that my bosom buddy got time out too. I wonder why he was given it seeing as he was just bragging yesterday that he contributes financially to the Daddy dream.

He was threatened with a duplicate punishment if i was given a time out, maybe someone could enlighten me. It could be because of that or he could have just been his lovely pleasant normal self after my explosive exit and got time out for his charming persona. My time out is until the 3rd of January.

He's gonna be a bit lonely this Christmas. Another queue for a song

How many Time-outs does it take before a Permanant Ban is imposed ??? I thought Miss Daddy put a limit on the temp Bans ?

[AdamSmith]

The remarks won't tend to be snide or just for insult's sake though. Hijacks around here (guilty! ) to me feel more like sitting around the fire and/or bar seeing where the conversation rambles.

[Suckrates]

Well I went out with an explosive bang, I did screen print it though and I received a number of emails during the night. Seems old Draker Faker isn't as popular as he seems to think he is.

Steve, here is my own personal opinion on what I learned from my experience "over there". MOST of the members, save for the ones that post here, are weak, dependent, simple-minded flip floppers. They tend to follow the leader, without any backbone of their own. You cant believe what they say, because they only say to please and fit in, and spare themselves the Wrath of Daddy. They will kick Draker when he is down, crucify his ass, but when he returns, they are his Best Buddy and ass-kisser. Many like Miss BigValleyGirl are notorious for this kind of behavior. So my advice is that if you answer any email, be very careful what you say to them, because undoubtedly your words will be used and twisted aganst you when things settle down there. Right now, all the members are re-grouping and finding their sides and waiting for instructions from Daddy. But since they are the biggest bunch of 2-faced Assholes, in the end they will turn on YOU if you are the target. Good Luck mate !

[Suckrates]

The remarks won't tend to be snide or just for insult's sake though. Hijacks around here (guilty! ) to me feel more like sitting around the fire and/or bar seeing where the conversation rambles.

And as we've said many times before, the hijacked threads always tend to be the most fun and interesting, but they take second place to the Threads about "the other site", which ALWAYS garner the most enthusiastic conversation and participation.

(On DrakerAss watch here )

[AdamSmith]

The flesh is weak.

[Guest SteveEscort]

Right now, all the members are re-grouping and finding their sides and waiting for instructions from Daddy. But since they are the biggest bunch of 2-faced Assholes, in the end they will turn on YOU if you are the target.

Oh it's ok. One of the emails was from someone whose had equally as many problems with the offender and I've not said anything I wouldn't publically say here that he could read himself.

The time out post last night was me saying goodbye to the lot of them. I had a good scout about in here yesterday and have seen some of his handywork in the summer when the other site was down. The whole issue rests with the fact he just can't see when he's being nasty, like his behaviour is normal to him. I can tell you now it certainly isn't normal.

A few weeks ago I was accused by the Belgian of being a fake, he never outrightly said it but made a point of accusing me of having no credible feedback. I travel all over the world as an escort but I do not tour. Every gentleman I travel long distance to see is someone I have seen before. I don't haul myself into a New York Hotel and hope to service 7 blokes a day to pay the hotel, travel costs and away from home living expenses, I've never seen the fun in that and therefore I see gentlemen every day from my lovely home in a lovely city in Northern England and a couple of times a month I travel to Germany, France and London, therefore I am unlikely to see any of his self sourced credible reviewers. I do have reviews on UK sites and many many of my Twitter followers are men who have made appointments with me. I am certainly not a fraud, I am one of the best known gay escorts in England, but that's not enough for him. God knows why,

He seems to tour a lot, great but I am a snob about guys who tour. I don't understand why escorts need to tour if they're good at their job. If they live in a metropolitan area, like mine, with a population of about a million there should be plenty of local guys, guys visiting on business and those driving through the area to keep a good quality gay escort busy with work every day. Some days I see 3 guys at home, sometimes I see none, sometimes I see four, other days I'm travelling away to see someone for an overnight or a weekend appointment but in his eyes, because I'm not putting myself out there to get credible reviews I'm some sort of fraud.

I was told by Daddy that I was showing myself up to my potential clients. What potential clients. I never went on the site nor have I come on this site to gain clients. I come onto forums and sites to talk about what I get up to, give clients an insight and a different perspective that sometimes they would never have thought about. I don't get it right all the time, I make mistakes and because I am English and the majority of you are American some of my experiences get lost in translation.

I know he hates my blog, he made that quite clear again yesterday. I somehow think that was because Harrington Park Press asked me to review their Male Sex Work and Society book for its UK launch. I might be wrong but it did seem to stick in his throat a little bit that some stupid gay escort from a backward city in the north of England should be asked by a New York publishing house to write an impartial review and be fed ex'd an advanced copy of the book 2 months before release. He is of course the self appointed stats and facts guru over there. That should have been his remit. He certainly never congratulated me on being asked and I kept it very very quiet until the day I wrote the review. I didn't bleat on bragging about the fact the publishing house selected me and my blog. The blog of someone he considers a fraud.

Whatever the outcome, the man was making me miserable and he knew it and he still carried on and on and on. I decided to go out with a blaze of glory and show them all up because they do nothing to stop bullying. They encourage it by continuing to allow his "speakers corner" to spout vile unappreciative crap at people who he decides to be his current victim. Now I'm no longer his victim it'll just be a matter of days before he finds someone else to play with.

[Suckrates]

Although I was often infuriated by Drakers shit, I never let it get to me to the extent it affected you Steve. He's an online stranger and to me means nothing. However, I can understand that he is sort of a peer to you, and it seems like there has been ongoing peer Rivalry, more so on his part, and letting him see that it affected you only fueled his fire....LET IT GO, LET IT GO..... You wont find that sort of behavior HERE, unless Lucky shows up. LOLOLOL

You will notice that the participation level here is somewhat less than you experienced there, but its Quality, not Quantity that counts, and the mods here are mature ADULTS who dont engage in childish nepotism.....

Hope you stay here is fulfilling.

[Guest SteveEscort]

Although I was often infuriated by Drakers shit, I never let it get to me to the extent it affected you Steve. He's an online stranger and to me means nothing. However, I can understand that he is sort of a peer to you, and it seems like there has been ongoing peer Rivalry, more so on his part, and letting him see that it affected you only fueled his fire....LET IT GO, LET IT GO..... You wont find that sort of behavior HERE, unless Lucky shows up. LOLOLOL

You will notice that the participation level here is somewhat less than you experienced there, but its Quality, not Quantity that counts, and the mods here are mature ADULTS who dont engage in childish nepotism.....

Hope you stay here is fulfilling.

I let it go last night when I left there. Remember I left. Then they gave me a time out. Quite laughable.

If he turns up here I will not play his games. I am sure he already knows what I have said. He has got plenty of time on his hands at the minute. How will the dark side cope without their daily stats and facts.

I always have things I want to talk about and discuss and those of you who already know me know that I post quality posts about things that matter and experiences I have had. The same as my blog. I only post on the blog when I have got something interesting to say. Over the next few days I will tidy up my profile on here with the correct rates, stats and update the pictures a little (I don't ever recall creating a profile here but apparently I've been a member here for over three years).

[MsAnn]

Although I was often infuriated by Drakers shit, I never let it get to me to the extent it affected you Steve. He's an online stranger and to me means nothing. However, I can understand that he is sort of a peer to you, and it seems like there has been ongoing peer Rivalry, more so on his part, and letting him see that it affected you only fueled his fire....LET IT GO, LET IT GO..... You wont find that sort of behavior HERE, unless Lucky shows up. LOLOLOL

You will notice that the participation level here is somewhat less than you experienced there, but its Quality, not Quantity that counts, and the mods here are mature ADULTS who dont engage in childish nepotism.....

Hope you stay here is fulfilling.

Steve I certainly hope that you listen to these words from Grandma Suckrates. Draker is extremely jealous and envious of successful escorts. He hates someone being more popular than he is, ya know, kinda like a 12 year old child. I saw the drama unfold and wanted to tell you to lay low, but I was already nippin at the bourbon, and just couldn't get involved. Anywho, NEVER LET EM SEE YOU SWEAT, once you let him know publicly that it bothered you, you were done. Draker delights in irritating posters to the point that they say something inappropriate and then get timed out.

It sorta of worked, except that your "adios motherfucker" speech was priceless. Thank God was I lurking and was able to see it, before it went to the scrap yard. Me and boys went to bed laughing our asses off. You really stuck it to the old man and his side kick. So good on you for that.

I pray to the good lord that Draker shows up here. After Grandma scratches her eyes out, we'll send her packin just like his Daddy did. How much fun would that be.

[Suckrates]

I'M ON DRAKER WATCH !

[Suckrates]

[MsAnn]

I'M ON DRAKER WATCH !

Perfect, now enough of this drama, let's get back to the nekked boys.

[Guest SteveEscort]

Steve I certainly hope that you listen to these words from Grandma Suckrates. Draker is extremely jealous and envious of successful escorts. He hates someone being more popular than he is, ya know, kinda like a 12 year old child. I saw the drama unfold and wanted to tell you to lay low, but I was already nippin at the bourbon, and just couldn't get involved. Anywho, NEVER LET EM SEE YOU SWEAT, once you let him know publicly that it bothered you, you were done. Draker delights in irritating posters to the point that they say something inappropriate and then get timed out.

It sorta of worked, except that your "adios motherfucker" speech was priceless. Thank God was I lurking and was able to see it, before it went to the scrap yard. Me and boys went to bed laughing our asses off. You really stuck it to the old man and his side kick. So good on you for that.

I pray to the good lord that Draker shows up here. After Grandma scratches her eyes out, we'll send her packin just like his Daddy did. How much fun would that be.

I will disect this in a bit. Gloat .... Enjoy .... For now.... Here is the The Three D Grees..... Something I will never be forgotten about if it's only for the en-spur name I made up for them

If this is overstepping the mark moderators, feel free to remove it. HRH Draker..... You have been warned and you will never win with me. Be warned.

[Suckrates]

I will disect this in a bit. Gloat .... Enjoy .... For now.... Here is the The Three D Grees..... Something I will never be forgotten about if it's only for the en-spur name I made up for them

If this is overstepping the mark moderators, feel free to remove it. HRH Draker..... You have been warned and you will never win with me. Be warned.

BTW, I really dont think there is a single "degree" between the 3 of them.... Just a trio of dumb-ass shit.

[BigK]

I somehow think that was because Harrington Park Press asked me to review their Male Sex Work and Society book for its UK launch. I might be wrong but it did seem to stick in his throat a little bit that some stupid gay escort from a backward city in the north of England should be asked by a New York publishing house to write an impartial review and be fed ex'd an advanced copy of the book 2 months before release. He is of course the self appointed stats and facts guru over there. That should have been his remit. He certainly never congratulated me on being asked and I kept it very very quiet until the day I wrote the review. I didn't bleat on bragging about the fact the publishing house selected me and my blog.

Hitting the nail on the head. You know....because he's so much better than you!

[lookin]

Well, call me a Sugar Plum Fairy, but my Holiday Fantasy would be for Steven Draker to return here during his hiatus at Daddy's and post some of the pleasant and informative stuff he's capable of and that it would be accepted in the welcoming spirit that we're all capable of. No jibes, no snarls, just a cup of holiday cheer for a fellow traveller temporarily between engagements.

But Lookin, you say, just exactly what kind of an ass are you to think that he won't post nasty stuff that will just start a bunch of fights like the last time Daddy's server went offline?

Well, you have me there. I guess it's possible. But what if they do turn out to be enjoyable posts? What if we get not one, but two active escorts added to the roster? What if a little of our fun-loving spirit made it all the way to England and Belgium? Who knows, maybe one day we'd have members from as far away as Uranus?

Of course, OZ would take all the credit for his exceptional moderating skills as he reminds us whenever he finds the time out of his busy schedule to show up every blue moon or so. But that's fine. The whole point is that this is a site where those who have to stand in the corner elsewhere often become teacher's pests pets over here.

So there you have it, my Holiday Fantasy for the year. Unless, of course, something better comes along.

[MsAnn]

Well, call me a Sugar Plum Fairy, but my Holiday Fantasy would be for Steven Draker to return here during his hiatus at Daddy's and post some of the pleasant and informative stuff he's capable of and that it would be accepted in the welcoming spirit that we're all capable of. No jibes, no snarls, just a cup of holiday cheer for a fellow traveller temporarily between engagements.

But Lookin, you say, just exactly what kind of an ass are you to think that he won't post nasty stuff that will just start a bunch of fights like the last time Daddy's server went offline?

Lookin you are absolutely 100% correct. Silly me, there I go again with all my negativity, assuming the worst out of the poor Belgian that was newly orphaned and sent into the cold. My first inclination would be to simply say,

"Draker post something civil?" "When pigs fly"

Anything is possible I suppose.

Personally, I'm kinda hoping something better comes along.

It's better for the pig :yes:

[Guest SteveEscort]

Hitting the nail on the head. You know....because he's so much better than you!

Didn't I just

[Suckrates]

Well, call me a Sugar Plum Fairy, but my Holiday Fantasy would be for Steven Draker to return here during his hiatus at Daddy's and post some of the pleasant and informative stuff he's capable of and that it would be accepted in the welcoming spirit that we're all capable of. No jibes, no snarls, just a cup of holiday cheer for a fellow traveller temporarily between engagements.

That Ain't Gonna Happen !

[Guest SteveEscort]

During the night, I received a lovely email from a member on the other side, missing my contribution to the forum.

It was a very nice email by someone else noticing the negative effect some people have over there and he felt I had a lot to give and was sad that I would not be posting there in the foreseeable future. My posts and contributions there had helped him come to terms with his sexuality in later life and one post I made in particular stayed with him through his journey. He thanked me for the posts I made and referred to it in detail, however.....

I did explain about why I wasnt posting there and did mention to him that his email was one of many since I left the dark pit over there. I added that it was a shame that during my horrific bullying episode no one jumped to my defence. His treatment of me was allowed to carry on unchallenged and that dismayed me a little. It was because of that and that alone that I decided to find a new home for my eccentric English posts and although i have since realised that my posts there were well received and liked, the fact is that no one was brave enough to put an end to the daily barrage of abuse. I don't feel like anything will ever change and that the stage was all his now. He can have it all to himself.

I did add that it would not take very long before a new victim was apparent, once his time out has ended.

[Guest SteveEscort]

Also in reference to Suckrates

There has been such a discussion in the last 24 hours

No one seemed to have any sympathy and it was noted that he has many user names

[wayout]

While I don't participate in the other site any longer (other than being an occasional peeping tom), I think there are many reasons why people don't come to the defense of someone being bullied on that site. While none of the reasons may be very satisfying or even valid, I think it is useful to try to understand some of the dynamics and reasoning behind these types of situations.

Some people actually enjoy the whole kerfuffle between the two people and are immensely entertained by it so naturally they don't want it to end and they just sit in the audience and eat their popcorn. They may also feel both parties are big boys and can handle things themselves without anyone interfering.

There are those who don't even see it as cyber bullying because of specific nature of the site or that it may not raise to the level they feel meets that definition (their own definition of course).

Then there are those that are fearful of providing any public support because of being attacked themselves. While difficult for some of us to understand, there are a wide range of sensitivities out there where someone really can not handle confrontation, difficult situations or being attacked (even on an relatively anonymous cyber board).

Others feel that giving any public support just gives the bully exactly what he is after...attention and they refuse to "feed the troll".

And then there are those that see it strictly as an owner/admin responsibility to deal with the situations and leaves it to them to handle it (or not).

It should also be considered, that there may be support in ways not public that can be provided. Some may elect to use the "report post" button for those comments they feel cross the line or may even message the owner/admin to protest something written.

While none of the above may be very satisfying or even useful to you at this point, it may help give some idea as to the variety of reasons why the public support wasn't what one would hope for or expect to receive.

[Suckrates]

While I don't participate in the other site any longer (other than being an occasional peeping tom), I think there are many reasons why people don't come to the defense of someone being bullied on that site. While none of the reasons may be very satisfying or even valid, I think it is useful to try to understand some of the dynamics and reasoning behind these types of situations.

Some people actually enjoy the whole kerfuffle between the two people and are immensely entertained by it so naturally they don't want it to end and they just sit in the audience and eat their popcorn. They may also feel both parties are big boys and can handle things themselves without anyone interfering.

There are those who don't even see it as cyber bullying because of specific nature of the site or that it may not raise to the level they feel meets that definition (their own definition of course).

Then there are those that are fearful of providing any public support because of being attacked themselves. While difficult for some of us to understand, there are a wide range of sensitivities out there where someone really can not handle confrontation, difficult situations or being attacked (even on an relatively anonymous cyber board).

Others feel that giving any public support just gives the bully exactly what he is after...attention and they refuse to "feed the troll".

And then there are those that see it strictly as an owner/admin responsibility to deal with the situations and leaves it to them to handle it (or not).

It should also be considered, that there may be support in ways not public that can be provided. Some may elect to use the "report post" button for those comments they feel cross the line or may even message the owner/admin to protest something written.

While none of the above may be very satisfying or even useful to you at this point, it may help give some idea as to the variety of reasons why the public support wasn't what one would hope for or expect to receive.

[AdamSmith]

Draker's back already?!